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Old 10-04-2013, 04:03 PM    (permalink
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Eh, I know it sucks to see as a bills fan, but this year was all about Manuel getting in, getting comfortable and growing with his young weapons. Until he can take that next step they're not contenders to go deep in the playoffs, so them losing every game he misses is probably their best case scenario. Get a higher draft pick to add the finishing touches to that defense and put some more beef into that OL.
It's only a shame that Manuel should be back by the time we face Jacksonville. Oh my, that could have been such a shitfest.
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I am fine tanking with Tuel in theory. Just not next week when I am at the game. The Bengals will eviscerate us.
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I am fine tanking with Tuel in theory. Just not next week when I am at the game. The Bengals will eviscerate us.
You're just gunna have to pre-game so hard that you can laugh at the suck. Cause Dalton can hold his own in a suckfest if he wants to.
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It's not like we got rid of him to have Tuel as the primary backup. Maybe we could have tried to do a little more than Thad Lewis (who we have already admitted is not an option despite his PS presence) after Kolb got hurt, but I don't know how much is realistically available.
I forgot they kept Kolb. think they'd bring Vince Young back in? He and Manuel seem are pretty similar in what they can do, so they probably wouldn't have to change their gameplan a whole lot.
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It has to be Freeman. It's obvious. And, if anyone would start Tuel Time over Freeman because he 'knows the offense' they know nothing about football.
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No way Freeman signs with the Bills for a few weeks of playing time. They'll be better opportunities out there for him, even if he has to wait until the offseason to take advantage of them. Dude is getting paid for the rest of the year anyway.
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If freeman gets the chance to play and sits on his ass instead, that might right there be the end of his career. Cause Brady Quinn may have sucked evne more, but at least he was constantly looking for work and a chance to prove just how much he sucks.
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Eh. Everyone knows what Quinn is. He does too. Freeman can afford to be a bit more choosy. He's been a productive player at the NFL level in limited time. His argument for that becomes weaker if he signs somewhere for the short term and sucks it up. He might be better coming off a plane than Tuel is with a few months in the system, but that's an awfully low bar to set. Struggling for a few weeks with a new offense in Buffalo won't help him make his case for someone bringing him in to compete for a job. It's just not a good situation for him.

...that's not to say he won't/shouldn't be looking for anything the rest of the year. It's quite possible he signs with someone. It won't be for a few weeks of spot duty though.
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Freeman has not been a productive player in limited time. For a limited time he was a productive player, but then his lazyness and lack of drive buried him. Sitting on his ass when there's a starting gig to be had would prove the concerns about his work ethic a lot more than him struggling with no practice in a new system would prove his suckitude.
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Freeman would be dumb not to come and play for the Bills. Pretty decent supporting cast for him here and it will be tough to look terrible in our current system. Signing long term would be dumb, but this year....why not? What are his other options? Backup in GB? Raiders? Browns?
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Freeman has not been a productive player in limited time. For a limited time he was a productive player, but then his lazyness and lack of drive buried him.
That's what I meant to say, screwed up the wording.


It's not a "starting gig to be had" though, it's holding a spot for a guy the Bills have invested a premium pick in and have a vested interest in playing going forward. I doubt the Bills would even be interested in bringing him in. He has a very good chance to angling for a better opportunity. He knows that and they know that. I can think of five teams off the top of my head that would be a better situation for Freeman and probably have more interest in him.
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Freeman could sign with the Bills for 1 year, but he'd be smarter (if there are other options) to go to a team that didn't just draft a first rounder...
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I'm hoping the Browns get one of the million QB's coming out next year and let Hoyer start while a rookie QB sits behind him. Best case scenario is Hoyer panning out and being legit, most likely would be an Alex Smith type year, worst case scenario both QB's suck dick and we go back to being irrelevant.
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Next years draft isn't nearly as louded at QB as people think, it's relatively average
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There's volume, but I think there's an absence of quality outside of the very top. Aside from Bridgewater(who isn't as sure of a thing as some think), I think it's basically a crapshoot. There's likely one or two guys who will turn out well enough...but good luck identifying them. Mettenberger has a chance to rise above the rest of the pack with his upside and the strides he's making, but there's some pretty bad tape of him from last year he'll have a hard time getting thrown out. It's an interesting class...but not one I would feel super stoked about if I didn't have the first guy on the board. I would actually rather sign Freeman on the cheap and draft a guy in the third round over hitching my wagon to anyone but Bridgewater.

I'm not even the biggest Freeman guy in the world either. Well, I wasn't anyway. Who knows? Maybe I am now.
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A new change of scenery might do Freeman good.
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Most drafts aren't loaded with QB talent. That's what makes years like '83 and '04 stand out. We all loved Luck and RG3 and 2012 looks like a good bet to join those classes, but it's still too soon to make that call.

The 2014 guys will looks a lot less sexy after they get picked apart from January through April.
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I agree. Teddy looks pretty good so far, but he isn't untouchable. And the rest might not even come out. Who knows which QBs will come out and if they will be good prospects.
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What's the best game this week?

Seattle @ Indianapolis?
That's my 5-star matchup

NO @ Chicago gets 4 1/2 stars. What's the weather going to be like in the windy city Sunday?

4 stars are Denver @ Dallas, Houston @ the still perfectly in-tact-OL 49ers, and the division-leading Lions @ Green Bay, missing both of their 1st rd OTs who are injured still.
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Gronk didn't travel with the Patriots to Cincinnati, so he's out this week.
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Most drafts aren't loaded with QB talent. That's what makes years like '83 and '04 stand out. We all loved Luck and RG3 and 2012 looks like a good bet to join those classes, but it's still too soon to make that call.

The 2014 guys will looks a lot less sexy after they get picked apart from January through April.
My whole point was there are a lot of guys, I hope the Browns identify one they like enough to let sit behind Hoyer and learn the game a bit.
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Should not matter they should still kick the Bengals ass.
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I'm hoping the Browns get one of the million QB's coming out next year and let Hoyer start while a rookie QB sits behind him. Best case scenario is Hoyer panning out and being legit, most likely would be an Alex Smith type year, worst case scenario both QB's suck dick and we go back to being irrelevant.
From what little we saw of him I think Hoyer could have Matt Schaub or Tony Romo type upside. They'll still draft a first round QB this year though, so it won't matter how good Hoyer really is probably unless the guy they draft sucks or gets hurt. Hopefully we fix the QB situation this offseason.

Hell, I hope Weeden is decent the rest of the way b/c we can win the division and make the playoffs this year easily if we get QB play that is good enough with that defense and Josh Gordon/Jordan Cameron at WR/TE.
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I'm hoping the Browns get one of the million QB's coming out next year and let Hoyer start while a rookie QB sits behind him. Best case scenario is Hoyer panning out and being legit, most likely would be an Alex Smith type year, worst case scenario both QB's suck dick and we go back to being irrelevant.
"worst case scenario"?? You mean "most likely scenario".
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Should not matter they should still kick the Bengals ass.
I'll be thoroughly disappointed if you guys don't hand them their 1st loss.

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