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Old 10-11-2013, 07:26 PM    (permalink
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From what I understand, the kid was a mistake with another woman
How could this possibly be less sensitive at this point? I question Peterson's involvement in this son's tragically short life, but ...
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How could this possibly be less sensitive at this point? I question Peterson's involvement in this son's tragically short life, but ...
Oh, you know what the **** I mean. I apologize for my wording, but that wasn't what I was going for. He was an unplanned child.
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Oh, you know what the **** I mean. I apologize for my wording, but that wasn't what I was going for. He was an unplanned child.
I do understand. My point is that it should NEVER matter if the child is planned or not for the father to be involved.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:35 PM    (permalink
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From what I understand, the kid was a mistake with another woman, and he wasn't even sure it was his until recently. It'd be hard as **** to keep tabs on the kid's mother and dating life when they live in another state, and even if he could, how would he be able to stop her? This is in absolutely no way Peterson's fault. It is the fault of the scumbag who beat the child to death, and to a lesser extent the mother who brought that monster to the child.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:40 PM    (permalink
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I don't care if it's "hard" for Peterson to have kept tabs on what is going on with his child. Being a parent is hard. I know Peterson did not kill the child, but a father should take steps to make sure his son is safe. If that means paying someone to check on him, so be it.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:43 PM    (permalink
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I do understand. My point is that it should NEVER matter if the child is planned or not for the father to be involved.
How do you know that he wouldn't have become involved in that child's life? The mother lives in South Dakota, and it wasn't until recently that the child was shown to be his. This is still not Peterson's fault.
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I don't care if it's "hard" for Peterson to have kept tabs on what is going on with his child. Being a parent is hard. I know Peterson did not kill the child, but a father should take steps to make sure his son is safe. If that means paying someone to check on him, so be it.
What he **** good would checking on the kid do? Jesus you are dense. Do you want him to hire someone to follow the child in a car 24/7? What good what that do?
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From what I understand, the kid was a mistake with another woman.
Hey my dad always told me I wasn't a mistake but a happy surprise. All unplanned kids are happy surprises.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:48 PM    (permalink
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The mother is allowed to invite any person she wants to live with her and the kid. She has custody. Peterson recently found out the kid was his. At some point he might have challenged for custody but at best he would get partial custody, more likely visitation. That does not change ****. You are an idiot Halsey.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:49 PM    (permalink
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What he **** good would checking on the kid do? Jesus you are dense. Do you want him to hire someone to follow the child in a car 24/7? What good what that do?
A father should take steps to ensure the safety and wellbeing of his child. No excuses.
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A father should take steps to ensure the safety and wellbeing of his child. No excuses.
Through what, stalking and kidnapping?
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Do tell us Halsey, what is that step?
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I dunno, but it's doubtful that AD truly loved the boy. Very tragic story. He's probably thinking about the child support he doesn't have to provide. These stories just really suck.

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Through what, stalking and kidnapping?
No excuses mqtirishfan. YOU MUST TAKES STEPS. Think before you talk Halsey. There is no need to try and be cool on the internet by being contrarian after a kid was ******* beaten to death.
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There's no "A FATHER SHOULD" in some sort of male defined role here, but AD wasn't involved in the kid's life. Whether it's his or the mother's fault, it's the truth. I feel awful for the kid that lost his life because of a scumbag piece of ****, that's how I see it.
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A father should take steps to ensure the safety and wellbeing of his child. No excuses.
I think I get what you're saying, but it sounds like he really never entered the kids life. That's certainly on him(although it certainly wouldn't have been the first time a woman manipulated an athlete into giving money to her and a child that wasn't his), but I don't think you can say he played a part in the child's death. I'm not sure him being a more involved Dad can prevent the mother from leaving the kid with a boyfriend she doesn't sound like she even knew all that well. You can certainly put a bit of this on her though.

Anyway, already shared my thoughts about this in another thread and got in a mini-argument about this(still love ya njx/bbd), but it's really a senseless tragedy. The fact that the guy had been charged with physically harming a child before this makes me sick. That's just about the single lowliest thing you can possibly do as a human being. At that point, you're no longer a person in my eyes anymore, even. What a truly disgusting animal.
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The kid was beaten to death when under the care of a known violent offender. It is the responsibility of the parents to keep a child out of harms way. Adrian Peterson did not kill the child, but he didn't do his job as a parent either.
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The kid was beaten to death when under the care of a known violent offender. It is the responsibility of the parents to keep a child out of harms way. Adrian Peterson did not kill the child, but he didn't do his job as a parent either.
What should he have done exactly? Please, stop being an idiot. Should he have challenged for custody immediately, maybe, but he almost surely would not have gotten it regardless of whether or not the mother was living with a violent offender, that is not the way the world works.
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I think I get what you're saying, but it sounds like he really never entered the kids life. That's certainly on him(although it certainly wouldn't have been the first time a woman manipulated an athlete into giving money to her and a child that wasn't his), but I don't think you can say he played a part in the child's death. I'm not sure him being a more involved Dad can prevent the mother from leaving the kid with a boyfriend she doesn't sound like she even knew all that well. You can certainly put a bit of this on her though.

Anyway, already shared my thoughts about this in another thread and got in a mini-argument about this(still love ya njx/bbd), but it's really a senseless tragedy. The fact that the guy had been charged with physically harming a child before this makes me sick. That's just about the single lowliest thing you can possibly do as a human being. At that point, you're no longer a person in my eyes anymore, even. What a truly disgusting animal.
The fact that he was a known offender to me tells me the mother should be charged with something. Garbage parenting. She has custody of the kid, she needs to do her job as a parent.
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What should he have done? Well, there's a lot of options, because it sounds like he was doing nothing. There's a world of options that are better than nothing.
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What should he have done? Well, there's a lot of options, because it sounds like he was doing nothing. There's a world of options that are better than nothing.
Name one that isn't entirely illegal.
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The kid was beaten to death when under the care of a known violent offender. It is the responsibility of the parents to keep a child out of harms way. Adrian Peterson did not kill the child, but he didn't do his job as a parent either.
Well maybe when you ignore completely relevant factors, such as Peterson only recently finding out it was his kid and him not having custody...He can't control who the kid does/doesn't get left with when he has no custody. You may as well be blaming a random stranger.
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What should he have done? Well, there's a lot of options, because it sounds like he was doing nothing. There's a world of options that are better than nothing.
What are those options exactly? The only viable one I can think of is take her to court. That takes a very long time and he only recently found out the kid was his. I am not saying Peterson is infallible but to put blame on him is ********. If he had decided to take her to court and was in the process of that would that change your feelings? He probably should have but it would not have prevented this. Keep acting all high and mighty, you are full of ****.
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Name one that isn't entirely illegal.
Exactly my point. There was no way he could prevent this legally. None. You want him to go to jail because the mother of one of his children is a ******* idiot. That would be so great for his other children, having their father behind bars.
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How do you know that he wouldn't have become involved in that child's life? The mother lives in South Dakota, and it wasn't until recently that the child was shown to be his. This is still not Peterson's fault.
I don't know. I'm not the one making reasons for Peterson to be absent. I don't blame Peterson, in any way. But to lessen his responsibility as a father because the "kid was a mistake" and that he "didn't even know it was his until recently" seems irresponsible.

I don't see Peterson saying these things in mourning.
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