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Old 10-29-2013, 04:57 AM    (permalink
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Congratulations for that canned response that totally misses the mark.

The biggest thing that the Pats did wasn't filming. They allegedly wired Brady's helmet with a second radio frequency so that he could allegedly hear from the coordinator (or Ernie Adams) all the way up until the center snapped the ball.

To my knowledge, they were the only team doing that.

The league knew that they were possibly doing that. Chris Mortensen reported that at the time. However, it was possibly swept under the rug, and the tapes were destroyed at NE's facility.

Bottom line: Belichick should have been banned for life, and Brady's HOF candidacy should be in serious question.
Fixed for accuracy.

But hey, let's go all in on this cheating thing. Surely, any coach or player caught cheating should be banned for life then. I mean, the Pats got a competitive advantage by doing what they did and what they are alleged to have done.

Know what else gives someone a competitive advantage???

How about; PEDs, deliberately ignoring the salary cap rules, hell what about blatant pass interference and holding calls etc?

There are blatant instances of cheating in every game, every offseason by every team.

Oh and Belicheat?? So cute you are still saying that
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People are still salty about spy gate huh?

Yeah let's question how great Tom Brady is bc of spy gate.

Bc it's not like he broke the TD record, went to 2 SBs since then, won countless games, playoff games, broke records, and had MVP quality seasons since that happened.

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Brady's leadership intangibles are off the charts compared to Romo.
No way Dez Bryant would have had that tantrum yesterday with Brady, and if he did both he AND Brady would have been toe to toe about to get into it.

Romo's personality is kind of passive which reflects on the entire team's inability to close games when Romo has played well enough to win.
And that would've won them the game? Because a WR might not throw a tantrum...even though players get pissed off on the sidelines every single week?

Also, Steve Young's presence sure didn't stop Jerry Rice from throwing tantrums every other week.
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When the cowboys figure out a way to lose the division to the 0-6 starting giants, I'm just going to laugh.
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When the cowboys figure out a way to lose the division to the 0-6 starting giants, I'm just going to laugh.
When the giants finish with 5 or 6 wins and take themselves out of the running for Clowney or Barr or any other truly elite talent, I'm just going to laugh.
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When the giants finish with 5 or 6 wins and take themselves out of the running for Clowney or Barr or any other truly elite talent, I'm just going to laugh.
Not if 6 wins gets us the division title because the cowboys imploded after losing to the Vikings and saints before your bye!
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People are still salty about spy gate huh?

Yeah let's question how great Tom Brady is bc of spy gate.

Bc it's not like he broke the TD record, went to 2 SBs since then, won countless games, playoff games, broke records, and had MVP quality seasons since that happened.

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1. That only happened because they got Moss, Welker, and Stallworth. And, he won't have those records for long after PFM is done this year.

2. How do you know they stopped cheating? The league only took away a first round pick, and they had another one that year anyway because of a trade with the 49ers that was in the top 10, which they used on Jerod Mayo.

Teflon Bill knows that he can get away with murder now, and Badell won't touch him because he doesn't want to punish the league's darlings.
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Not if 6 wins gets us the division title because the cowboys imploded after losing to the Vikings and saints before your bye!
Hahaha. Can't say you didn't make me laugh first.
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And that would've won them the game? Because a WR might not throw a tantrum...even though players get pissed off on the sidelines every single week?

Also, Steve Young's presence sure didn't stop Jerry Rice from throwing tantrums every other week.

Jerry Rice didn't meltdown on the sidelines ever like T.O. or Dez have done.
Rice TALKED to his QBs, but he never made an ass of himself or his QB.
You have a very loose definition of 'tantrums'.
Rice surely didn't have one every other week on the sidelines.

Even Michael Irvin said that Troy Aikman would get in ANY player's face and put them back in line if they lost focus on the main goal on Sundays....winning.

You can't have your top WR going full diva when the game is on the line calling out the QB for not targeting him more often.

The last NFL QB who publicly said 'leadership is overrated' was Jeff George.

It's no coincidence one of the most talented QBs of alltime had a forgettable career in the pros.
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1. That only happened because they got Moss, Welker, and Stallworth. And, he won't have those records for long after PFM is done this year.

2. How do you know they stopped cheating? The league only took away a first round pick, and they had another one that year anyway because of a trade with the 49ers that was in the top 10, which they used on Jerod Mayo.

Teflon Bill knows that he can get away with murder now, and Badell won't touch him because he doesn't want to punish the league's darlings.
Oh how convenient! So Brady only put up great numbers bc they had good players, but Peyton has DThomas, JThomas, Welker and Decker but we totally ignore how great those players are! Awesome!

And how do we know they stopped cheating? Seriously? Ok the Broncos are cheating too. There. I just made a ridiculous claim with no proof too. See how easy it is?

It's funny how the Tom Brady haters have shifted from being predominately Colts fans to predominately Broncos fans now. As if knocking Brady down somehow will lift Peyton's legacy or something.

Worry about Peyton in the playoffs before you worry about spygate.
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So Brady put up good numbers when he had weapons equivalent to what Manning has had his entire career, and that somehow makes him overrated. Good god WHY DO I COME INTO THIS SECTION.

Probably for the lulz.
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Jerry Rice didn't meltdown on the sidelines ever like T.O. or Dez have done.
Rice TALKED to his QBs, but he never made an ass of himself or his QB.
You have a very loose definition of 'tantrums'.
Rice surely didn't have one every other week on the sidelines.

Even Michael Irvin said that Troy Aikman would get in ANY player's face and put them back in line if they lost focus on the main goal on Sundays....winning.

You can't have your top WR going full diva when the game is on the line calling out the QB for not targeting him more often.

The last NFL QB who publicly said 'leadership is overrated' was Jeff George.

It's no coincidence one of the most talented QBs of alltime had a forgettable career in the pros.
I'm sure this video will be posted as a response.



Although I haven't seen Rice ever blow up like Terrell Owens did against the Cleveland Browns in 2003. That was ridiculous. It was literally a grown man acting like a baby.
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So Brady put up good numbers when he had weapons equivalent to what Manning has had his entire career, and that somehow makes him overrated. Good god WHY DO I COME INTO THIS SECTION.

Probably for the lulz.
**** stops being funny after like 4 pages though and then you wanna kick people's asses...take no prisoners
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I think I was drunk when I read pages 3-8, so now I'm just completely lost. I have no idea what's going on this thread.
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I think I was drunk when I read pages 3-8, so now I'm just completely lost. I have no idea what's going on this thread.
D-Unit is slowly realizing that the cowboys really are still going to blow this
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I wouldn't put it past Dallas to screw things up for everybody, but I'm pretty sure you guys still suck. You're just going to win enough games to land something like the 8th pick in the draft.

Or you might go on a wicked run and beat the Packers in the playoffs, right before you beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. When it comes to the Giants, who knows?
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We do still suck, but it's weird, we've finally adjust to how bad our OL is by cutting down on all of the 7 step drops, the OL has sucked a little less, we're running the ball more and Eli's being extra careful with the ball. So our offense doesn't suck complete balls like it did. And our defense has been pretty good throughout.

The question has will the team quit next time things start to go wrong like in the Dallas, KC and Denver games that the giants were in until collapsing in the second half. That's why I said we were tanking cause we'd be in it until we just folded and secured the loss. If the giants have rediscovered their fight we don't suck enough to keep Dallas from handing us the division.
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Lol watch us lose to the Raiders by 20 in 2 weeks and all of this wishful thinking will come crashing down.
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Lol watch us lose to the Raiders by 20 in 2 weeks and all of this wishful thinking will come crashing down.
Probably but I'm really enjoying it now! Made the season fun for a little.
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Probably but I'm really enjoying it now! Made the season fun for a little.
That's when I tweet eggplants to Clowney again!
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**** stops being funny after like 4 pages though and then you wanna kick people's asses...take no prisoners
The patriots fan inside me wants to keep laughing at how terrible people are reaching to knock our quarterback.

The adult in me wants to find these people and burn their houses down.
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Lol watch us lose to the Raiders by 20 in 2 weeks and all of this wishful thinking will come crashing down.
That's why we need to get our money's worth now. Cause soon it'll be back to tanking for clowney
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Jerry Rice didn't meltdown on the sidelines ever like T.O. or Dez have done.
Rice TALKED to his QBs, but he never made an ass of himself or his QB.
You have a very loose definition of 'tantrums'.
Rice surely didn't have one every other week on the sidelines.
You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. As usual.

Rice was a tantrum machine. In this particular clip here, Rice was shouting to Steve Mariucci, "tell him to throw a ******* spiral!!! A ******* spiral!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIT7iSPObws

In a 1992 MNF game against the Falcons, after Tom Rathman scored a touchdown to give the 49ers a a 27-3 lead, Rice pushed over a concession stand and shouted, "I ain't no ************* decoy!"

Here's an article recounting some of his late 90s stuff:

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/jan/07/sports/sp-61347

This is only the tip of the iceberg. And these things all took place when the 49ers were winning.


Owens could never be 1/100th the whiner Rice was even if he tried.


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Even Michael Irvin said that Troy Aikman would get in ANY player's face and put them back in line if they lost focus on the main goal on Sundays....winning.
There's another guy who used to throw tantrums on the sidelines - Aikman. He's always in an awkward position when having to talk about sideline tantrums. Here he is talking about Tom Brady and sideline incidents themselves, confirming exactly what I've already said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhRoSfgcqKo

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You can't have your top WR going full diva when the game is on the line calling out the QB for not targeting him more often.
You have no idea what he said on the sidelines. Like most people, you're just guessing/assuming. Even if he was complaining about the ball, it's irrelevant.

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The last NFL QB who publicly said 'leadership is overrated' was Jeff George.

It's no coincidence one of the most talented QBs of alltime had a forgettable career in the pros.
Jeff George wasn't very good. Arm strength is the least important attribute for a QB. Pretty much every QB who makes it to the NFL has a strong enough arm.

It's always fun to make claims based on alleged intangibles, because nobody can ever prove you wrong. You can make unprovable claims like, "this team lost because they didn't have enough leadership," or, "the team chemistry is a problem," or, "this quarterback would have won more if he were a better leader," and while you're really just talking out your ass, you can mask that by the fact that you're discussing an invisible phenomenon.
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