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Old 12-04-2013, 12:25 PM    (permalink
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People thought Florida was not very good the year they humiliated a previously undefeated OSU team in the title game. Many people were talking up that game as a formality preceding OSU's coronation.
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blah blah, SEC fans say that every year. We would be undefeated with Missouri's schedule. As far as Auburn's schedule, we'd probably lose one between LSU and Alabama, but that's about it. 3 or 4 losses, gimme a break. Ohio State is very talented. Missouri and Texas A&M were mediocre big twelve teams before they joined the SEC and are instantly better.
Yeah, SEC fans would have argued that Missouri and Texas A@M couldn't compete in the SEC when they were in the Big 12 but suddenly, they are in the SEC and are more than holding their own.
The only advantage I see the SEC having is the quality of their HC's, the quality of their players isn't that great when compared to other football powers, which is why Missouri and Texas A@M can compete quite easily once they joined the conference.

If Florida ST. and Ohio St. win out, they will both be in the NCG and the SEC myth will begin to dwindle.
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Yeah, SEC fans would have argued that Missouri and Texas A@M couldn't compete in the SEC when they were in the Big 12 but suddenly, they are in the SEC and are more than holding their own.
Haha, yeah I too find it interesting how quickly the SEC fan base accepted Texas A&M as "us" and more recently their acceptance of Missouri as "us" considering last year they pointed to Mizz as an example of how other schools in other conferences couldn't hang in the SEC.
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If I could interrupt this incredibly pointless argument. I thought I'd take a look at how things would shakeout in the new playoff system. I'm assuming the f/+ favorites win in every game this weekend.

Playoff Semifinal (Rose Bowl)- #2 Ohio State vs. #3 Auburn
Playoff Semifinal (Sugar Bowl)- #1 Florida State vs. #4 Alabama

Orange Bowl- Clemson vs. Missouri
Cotton Bowl- Stanford vs. Oklahoma State
Fiesta Bowl- Arizona State vs. Baylor
Peach Bowl- Northern Illinois vs. South Carolina

Then further down the line you'd see:

Capital One Bowl- Michigan State vs. LSU
Alamo Bowl- Oregon vs. Oklahoma
Holiday Bowl- Wisconsin vs. UCLA
Russell-Athletic- Duke vs. Texas
Outback- Iowa vs. Georgia

Just an educated guess, but it would look something like that.
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People thought Florida was not very good the year they humiliated a previously undefeated OSU team in the title game. Many people were talking up that game as a formality preceding OSU's coronation.
Dumb people were. By the numbers, Auburn/Missouri are both much worse than that Florida team.
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Except that was against an 11-1 Michigan, which is a big difference.
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and there wasn't an undefeated team ranked ahead of them at that time. but would it really be a surprise to anyone that Urban Meyer has managed to contradict himself?
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and there wasn't an undefeated team ranked ahead of them at that time. but would it really be a surprise to anyone that Urban Meyer has managed to contradict himself?
To be fair I think pretty much any coach would. It's your job to get out there and sell your team based on their merits. I would have to seriously question my coach if he came out and said, "No I don't think we deserve to go because I want to stick with something I said 7 years ago to try and get my team into the title game."
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Pretty interesting exercise via MrSEC
How would you rank the following teams:

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e,c,a,d,b. probably goes against everything i've posted here

edit: the way i interpreted this exercise all teams have equal records, though
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I'd rank the 2 without losses at the top, then the rest in an order that doesn't really matter.
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Well, if you grade each category equally 1-5 with 5 being the best it goes

1. C- 25.5
1. E- 25.5
3. B- 19
4. A- 17.5
4. D- 17.5

So it looks like Ohio State and Florida State are the least deserving while the most deserving are Auburn and Missouri. But that is all BS because when you lose by two TDs to a 3-loss team, you have no business jumping an undefeated team.

Edit: I also don't know where he got these numbers because they seem a bit off to me based on what I calculated.
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Lol....I enjoy how that chart doesn't mention which teams lost. The ****....
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First things first, we’ve used the current BCS standings (1-125) for several of our scheduling factors. Even for those teams not currently ranked in the USA Today Coaches’ Poll or the Harris Poll, there are still rankings produced by the six computer formulas.

Also, keep in mind that we have not included any of the data from these teams’ dates with FCS foes. Those games haven’t been counted in any way, shape or form in the table below.
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Arizona State for the national championship!

Opp. Winning Percentage- 0.609 1st
Total Margin of Victory- 166 5th but better than Auburn
Per Game Margin- 15.1 5th better than Auburn
Top 25- 3 3rd
Top 50- 9 1st
Sub 75- 1 1st

So if we use Mr. SEC's metrics, Arizona State beats Auburn in every metric but one. They beat Missouri in 3 metrics, tie in 1, and lose in 3. So Arizona State vs. Missouri in the BCS championship is obviously most far.
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Purdue played the 16th toughest schedule in the nation. Cal played the 3rd toughest.

I think that's our national championship matchup.
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Pretty interesting exercise via MrSEC
How would you rank the following teams:

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I don't think your supposed to take it so literally, it's just an interesting way to look at the top five teams and which two appear to be the most qualified by those numbers.
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I don't think your supposed to take it so literally, it's just an interesting way to look at the top five teams and which two appear to be the most qualified by those numbers.
How do you not take numbers literally?
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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How do you not take numbers literally?
I'm not saying don't take the numbers literally, I just thought it was, as Deadspin put it in their story about it, "a fun little thought experiment". And as they put it in their post "averaged numbers gloss over less tangible but still important standouts like signature wins or "my goodness, they won but still looked like hot garbage out there" games". To me it's an interesting take on how to judge the top five teams since everyone has an opinion on which two teams are the best. And I thought this was an interesting way to see which two teams people thought were the best in a blind look at the five candidates. It's meant to be a blind test of the five team's that have a shot at making the BCS national championship game, when you expand the field to every team in the country then the exercise loses a bit of its purpose.

I was never trying to suggest that one team was better than the author, just thought it was an interesting experiment I would share.
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