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Old 11-29-2013, 09:39 AM    (permalink
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Ohio state is the biggest auburn fan this week
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That's cool and all, but you said that Ohio State hasn't played a tougher schedule and that's simply not true.
By one measure then there's.....

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FLORIDA STATE: Alabama and Florida State are 1-2 in the Championship Drive Ratings, while the only other undefeated team, Ohio State, was three spots back at No. 5. FSU has a Championship Drive Rating of 94.3, OSU has a 93.3. While both teams are 11-0, Florida State has controlled in-game win probability (84.6 percent to 81.2) more and has played a slightly tougher schedule (81st to 86th).
And then there is the eye ball where it's clear teams Ohio State has played, and not beat convincingly, that FSU has played better teams. Clemson is better than anyone Ohio State has played, and even though they suck, Florida is still better than anyone Ohio State played OOC.
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lol @ linking to the ACC blog.....

Once Ohio State plays Michigan State there will be no argument about scheduling. None. Ohio State will have played Michigan State and Wisconsin. Those are two actual top 15 teams, as opposed to Miami, which is still pretty much a joke.

FSU's second toughest opponent this year is......Boston College? Honestly that would probably get my vote at this point.
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I also, for the record, think Michigan State beats Ohio State.
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I also, for the record, think Michigan State beats Ohio State.
Been saying this after watching them against Michigan. I really really like Sparty this year.
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lol @ linking to the ACC blog.....

Once Ohio State plays Michigan State there will be no argument about scheduling. None. Ohio State will have played Michigan State and Wisconsin. Those are two actual top 15 teams, as opposed to Miami, which is still pretty much a joke.

FSU's second toughest opponent this year is......Boston College? Honestly that would probably get my vote at this point.


Wisconsin in the top 25 is a joke.
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Wisconsin in the top 25 is a joke.
I'm clearly biased for Wisconsin, but this statement you just made is a joke.

They may well drop out of the top 25 rankings and they clearly didn't play like a top 25 team this week, but to say it's a joke to consider them as a ranked team is ridiculous.

They lost by 2 points (I'm not even going into the officiating debacle which should have given them a chance to kick a chip shot game winning field goal) at Arizona State, a 10-2 team who will be playing for the PAC-12 championship next week.

They lost by 7 points at Ohio State, a team who has won its last 24 games, will be playing for the B1G Championship next week and possibly the National Championship.

They have a Top 10 Defense in yards and points allowed. They have a Top 20 Offense in yards gained and 26th in points scored.

Please name 25 teams that it would be a joke for Wisconsin to be considered better than.
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I'm clearly biased for Wisconsin, but this statement you just made is a joke.

They may well drop out of the top 25 rankings and they clearly didn't play like a top 25 team this week, but to say it's a joke to consider them as a ranked team is ridiculous.

They lost by 2 points (I'm not even going into the officiating debacle which should have given them a chance to kick a chip shot game winning field goal) at Arizona State, a 10-2 team who will be playing for the PAC-12 championship next week.

They lost by 7 points at Ohio State, a team who has won its last 24 games, will be playing for the B1G Championship next week and possibly the National Championship.

They have a Top 10 Defense in yards and points allowed. They have a Top 20 Offense in yards gained and 26th in points scored.

Please name 25 teams that it would be a joke for Wisconsin to be considered better than.
They lost to penn state at home who got their doors blown off by Ohio state and Indiana. Penn state also lost to Nebraska at home.
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lol @ linking to the ACC blog.....

Once Ohio State plays Michigan State there will be no argument about scheduling. None. Ohio State will have played Michigan State and Wisconsin. Those are two actual top 15 teams, as opposed to Miami, which is still pretty much a joke.

FSU's second toughest opponent this year is......Boston College? Honestly that would probably get my vote at this point.
Just to let ya know penn state , a 7-5 team the buckeyes blew out beat Ohio states only somewhat quality win yesterday at Wisconsin.
Ohio state has no significant wins. Even if they beat Michigan state , they also lost to a Notre dame team who's not very good.
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Just to let ya know penn state , a 7-5 team the buckeyes blew out beat Ohio states only somewhat quality win yesterday at Wisconsin.
Ohio state has no significant wins. Even if they beat Michigan state , they also lost to a Notre dame team who's not very good.
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Auburn lost to LSU. The same LSU that lost to Georgia and Ole Miss.

You mean the same Ole Miss that lost to Mississippi State? Indeed.

But, that Mississippi State team barely beat Bowling Green and needed overtime to beat Arkansas, who lost to ******* Rutgers? So it's almost like Auburn lost to Rutgers!

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Oregon's drop in the final stretch of the season has been incredibly shocking. Stanford wasn't a shock. Everyone knew that beat down was at least on the table. But Arizona?

I think it's a mix of a lazy approach once the title hopes were off the table and Mariota's injured knee.

They should not have edged out Oregon State by just 1 point.
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Just to let ya know penn state , a 7-5 team the buckeyes blew out beat Ohio states only somewhat quality win yesterday at Wisconsin.
Ohio state has no significant wins. Even if they beat Michigan state , they also lost to a Notre dame team who's not very good.
Stanford lost to Utah, they obviously aren't good.

Oklahoma State lost to West Virginia, so they clearly aren't good.

South Carolina lost to a 4 loss Georgia and 5-7 Tennessee, so they clearly aren't very good.

By your logic, there are only about 5-7 teams worthy of being considered a top 25 team...
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Haha to be fair. Lsu and sc lost to Georgia when they were healthy. Georgia's team hit IR after the Lsu game.
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Name a team right now that Ohio state beat that is currently ranked in the top 25 and compare that to Missouri and Auburn.
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The SEC schedule it's almost impossible to go undefeated playing Lsu , Bama, Texas am , Georgia , USC
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Name a team that Missouri or Auburn has lost to and compare that to Ohio State's losses.

Clearly, Ohio State doesn't have the strongest schedule in the nation, however they are in a 3 way tie for the best record. When a team is in a major conference and they go undefeated, you can't pass them up with teams who have lost.
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First of all, Auburn didn't even play South Carolina and like you said, the Georgia team they played was not very good (and they needed an incredibly flukey play to beat them).

A&M, frankly, isn't very good either. (8-4 with no impressive wins)

So Auburn has really played two good teams. They beat one of them on another flukey field goal return and they lost to LSU.

This is such a stupid argument.
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I have to agree that OSU deserves the BCS bid if they beat Michigan State.

I don't think OSU has really had to beat anyone of great significance, but you just cannot pass up on an undefeated from a major conference.

OSU has had close calls against subpar teams
but so has Auburn

Auburn has lost to only 1 team
but OSU has not lost to any

An undefeated OSU goes to the national championship. Period.
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But they almost lost to Purdue last year
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apparently the computers will have Auburn making a huge jump and it appears they're moving up enough in the human polls to make the Buckeyes sweat at that #2 spot. for the record, I believe OSU deserves the spot and will ultimately play for the NC if they beat Sparty
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IMHO OSU absolutely deserves the #2 if they win. That being said Meyer is being Meyer too.

He announced that he won't discipline Wilson and Hall for their roles in the fight. Meyer will never institute discipline if it might hurt his chances of winning a football game. Regardless of whether or not the incident takes place on the field. His tenure in Florida was the exact same. At least this time his players aren't murdering people :)
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Ok, Sagarin's computer has NIU #2. Massey keeps the top 3 of FSU/Bama/Mizz. Auburn jumps to 5th, jumping Ohio State. The other computer rankings will go up in a couple of hours.
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any ranking that has NIU at #2 is a piece of ****
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Meyer really only cares about winning and that apparently is okay in college football. He eventually got overrun in Florida by the players but it worked at a high level.
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