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Never expend anything higher than a 3rd round pick on a RB, whether through trade or the draft.

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In light of the hoodwinking that the Browns perpetrated on the Colts by trading Trent Richardson for the Colts' first round draft pick, I'd like to point out what a *terrible* idea it is to spend valuable draft picks on RBs.

Never expend anything higher than a 3rd round pick on a RB, whether through trade or the draft. It's just not smart. Just don't do it, NFL GMs!

The best teams in the league right now don't spend high draft picks on RBs, or if they do, they later regret it and win *in spite* of wasting those picks on RBs:

- Seattle? Marshawn Lynch was acquired in trade with a fourth-round pick in 2011 and a fifth-round pick in 2012.

- Denver? Josh McDaniels blew a first round pick on Knowshon Moreno and the Broncos are winning in *spite* of this - Manning can win with any RB and the team would be even better if that first rounder had instead been spent on another position.

- Kansas City? Jamaal Charles was a third round pick and they haven't wasted a high pick on a RB since then.

- San Francisco? Frank Gore was a third rounder and they haven't wasted a high pick on a RB since then.

- New Orleans? Their main RBs right now are Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles, who were both free agent acquisitions. They completely blew a first round pick on Mark Ingram, who has basically done NOTHING for them, and the Saints would be an even better team if they had spent that Ingram pick on a more valuable position.

- Indianapolis? Their offense is very good right now. But it's safe to say that Trent Richardson has done little to nothing for them. They would have been better just signing another free agent to complement Donald Brown and Ahmad Bradshaw.

- Green Bay? Eddie Lacy is their leading rusher and he was acquired with a second round pick. However, they have shown in the past that they can win and play great offense without premiere RBs, so Lacy is basically a luxury.





Meanwhile, here are some teams that have recently spent high draft picks on RBs:

- Minnesota? Adrian Peterson was picked in the first round of the 2007 draft is the best RB in the league but what has it done for them? Their only playoff success came when Favre was having an MVP season. They've been an awful team outside of that and their fluky 10 win season last year.

- Tampa Bay? Doug Martin was picked in the first round of the 2012 draft but that hasn't stopped their offense from being wretched. The QB makes the offense and not the RB.

- Cleveland? Trent Richardson was their centerpiece #3 pick in the 2012 draft and only a year later they are trading him away and he's sucking on another team, all while Cleveland is headed for yet another 5-11 season.

- New York Giants? David Wilson was their first round pick in 2012 and guess what? Their offense is worse now than it ever has been in the past when they were trotting out free agent and late round pick RBs like Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs. What's the point of wasting a pick on David Wilson if it doesn't do anything to improve your offense?

- New Orleans? They completely blew a first round pick on Mark Ingram. They are a good team right now but are doing it entirely without Ingram, who has done absolutely nothing for their offense since being drafted. In fact, when Ingram is on the field, he actually hurts their chances of scoring TDs. This team would be even better if they had selected a different position with that first round pick.

- Buffalo? CJ Spiller was their high first round pick in 2010 and what has he done for their offense? Hmm, not much. Again, their offense depends on how good their QB is. Ej Manuel might be the right guy, and he might not, but CJ Spiller will have little to no impact on how good this team is in the future.

- San Diego? Ryan Matthews was their first round pick in 2010. This team has a great offense right now, but that's because of Rivers having better protection, better coaching, and better WRs. Mathews is doing nothing that a free agent or late round RB could do - generating 4.1 ypc on the ground in this offense. They, like the Saints, would have a similar offense without their first round RB and would be an even better team if they hadn't wasted their pick on the RB.

- Detroit Lions? Jahvid Best was their first round pick in 2010. A few concussions later, he's out of the league after having done little to nothing for the Lions. This team should have spent the pick on something else and just done what they are doing now - signing free agent RBs.
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Never spend a high draft pick on a 30 year old red headed quarterback
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That doesn't help either, but the Trent Richardson pick was just as bad or even worse.

Cleveland basically wasted *both* of their 2012 first round picks.
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- Kansas City? Jamaal Charles was a third round pick and they haven't wasted a high pick on a RB since then.

- San Francisco? Frank Gore was a third rounder and they haven't wasted a high pick on a RB since then.
These two made me laugh out loud.
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Is this some kind of revelation? I usually hate the idea of stomping on a thread's very subject when it could lead to a decent discussion but RBs being dime-a-dozen or overvalued has been a well known entity for years and years.
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Is this some kind of revelation? I usually hate the idea of stomping on a thread's very subject when it could lead to a decent discussion but RBs being dime-a-dozen or overvalued has been a well known entity for years and years.
And yet teams continue to throw away their first (and even second) round draft picks on them...

The latest victim being Ryan Grigson of the Colts, and I'm sure more are to follow in this year's draft.
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Yeah there are definitely lots of examples. Next you should make a thread that lists players who have concussions and point out that they were probably hit in the skull. Do you see what I mean? It's just really obvious.
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Yeah there are definitely lots of examples. Next you should make a thread that lists players who have concussions and point out that they were probably hit in the skull. Do you see what I mean? It's just really obvious.
So why do we still see 1st round and 2nd round draft picks being spent on RBs? It's a crisis in the NFL. Teams should know better by now. And yet, 2012 we see two wasted 1st round picks on RBs... last year a bunch of teams blew a couple of 2nd round picks on RBs... and now Grigson completely blows his 2014 first round pick on a RB.


I mean, teams should institute strict rules on draft day and in the trade market - never, ever, ever spent anything higher than a 3rd round draft pick on a RB in any transaction of any kind. You're just setting your team up for failure if you do.
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These are the only kinds of threads made in the Pro Football forum these days. Sadness.
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I don't mind spending a first round pick on a running back. Put only for playoff teams. Teams making the playoffs are usualyl pretty well rounded without a ton of holes. They can afford to use a pick on a first rounder. But a top-10 pick? No way. Not even for Adrian Peterson.
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I don't mind spending a first round pick on a running back. Put only for playoff teams. Teams making the playoffs are usualyl pretty well rounded without a ton of holes. They can afford to use a pick on a first rounder. But a top-10 pick? No way. Not even for Adrian Peterson.
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That doesn't help either, but the Trent Richardson pick was just as bad or even worse.

Cleveland basically wasted *both* of their 2012 first round picks.
If you think Trent Richardson was a worse pick than Brandon Weeden you're out of your ****ing mind. Richardson has at least had productive games over the course of his brief career. Weeden is nothing short of horrid; a Blaine Gabbert-tier quarterback.
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I don't mind spending a first round pick on a running back. Put only for playoff teams. Teams making the playoffs are usualyl pretty well rounded without a ton of holes. They can afford to use a pick on a first rounder. But a top-10 pick? No way. Not even for Adrian Peterson.
You lost me there.
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I would spend a first round pick on a RB if I thought he was "special". Then again, I thought Trent Richardson was a special prospect.
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Thinking it over a bit more, about the only time lately I've flat out loved a high RB pick was ironically the Raiders picking up D-Mac. They had just 'won' the offseason and it looked like they were really set up to make a run, so Al got opportunistic and rolled the dice on a RB giving the whole engine a boost. Interesting move, didn't pan out, but a good look at how it may be appropriate to draft high at times.
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I don't mind spending a first round pick on a running back. Put only for playoff teams. Teams making the playoffs are usualyl pretty well rounded without a ton of holes. They can afford to use a pick on a first rounder. But a top-10 pick? No way. Not even for Adrian Peterson.
Even playoff teams would be better off spending that pick on something else.

The Saints, for example, would probably be an even BETTER team right now if they had spent that Mark Ingram pick on any other player. I mean, at least their odds of hitting on a useful, helpful player would have increased.

By spending it on a RB, their future EV was basically close to zero. Because even if Ingram doesn't bust, their offense is still a top unit with free agent RBs. How much better can a first round RB really make them?
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Thinking it over a bit more, about the only time lately I've flat out loved a high RB pick was ironically the Raiders picking up D-Mac. They had just 'won' the offseason and it looked like they were really set up to make a run, so Al got opportunistic and rolled the dice on a RB giving the whole engine a boost. Interesting move, didn't pan out, but a good look at how it may be appropriate to draft high at times.
I wish we had a better and more accurate search function so I could go back and look at people calling that team "the best secondary ever assembled" and stuff.
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I heard that Sylvester Stallone wrote The Expendables with The Alex in mind. He had to keep it realistic though and split The Alex's abilities into multiple characters. Stallone thought that critics would pan it for being too far-fetched if he just had one character effing everyone up.
The end. Cut to black. Audience goes ****ing ape****.
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Gotta love hindsight.
I would have done it then too. If there is a CB, DE, or QB I like, I'm picking him over a RB I like every time.
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I would have done it then too. If there is a CB, DE, or QB I like, I'm picking him over a RB I like every time.
Guys, we just have to take Jamaal Anderson over Adrian Peterson.
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I heard that Sylvester Stallone wrote The Expendables with The Alex in mind. He had to keep it realistic though and split The Alex's abilities into multiple characters. Stallone thought that critics would pan it for being too far-fetched if he just had one character effing everyone up.
The end. Cut to black. Audience goes ****ing ape****.
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It's like this is just occuring to you and you have to spread the word as fast as you can.
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