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Just out of boredom I checked out the RBs taken in the first 2 rounds since 2000. I am grading them A-F, based on the value given to the team who drafted them.

2000
#5 Jamal Lewis - A
#7 Thomas Jones - D
#11 Ron Dayne - F
#19 Shaun Alexander - A
#31 Trung Candidate - F

Notable later round RBs
#82 Reuben Droughns
#153 Dante Hall
#189 Mike Anderson
#239 Patrick Pass

2001
#5 LaDainian Tomlinson - A
#23 Deuce McAllister - B
#27 Michael Bennett - D
#38 Anthony Thomas - C
#49 Lamont Jordan - C
#58 Travis Henry - B

Notable later round RBs
#100 Rudi Johnson

2002
#16 William Green - F
#18 T.J. Duckett - C
#34 DeShaun Foster - C
#51 Clinton Portis - A+ (Bonus value points for production plus getting a HOF CB in trade)
#54 Maurice Morris - D
#56 Ladell Betts - C

Notable later round RBs
#91 Brian Westbrook
#207 Chester Taylor

2003
#23 Willis McGahee - B
#27 Larry Johnson - B
Supplemental Tony Hollings - F

Notable later round RBs
#101 Domanick Davis
#105 Onterrio Smith

2004
#24 Steven Jackson - B
#26 Chris Perry - D
#30 Kevin Jones - D
#41 Tatum Bell - F
#43 Julius Jones - C
#55 Greg Jones - B

Notable later round RBs
#154 Michael Turner

2005
#2 Ronnie Brown - D
#4 Cedric Benson - F
#5 Cadillac Williams - D
#44 J.J. Arrington - D
#54 Eric Shelton - F

Notable later round RBs
#65 Frank Gore
#109 Marion Barber
#110 Brandon Jacobs
#130 Darren Sproles

2006
#2 Reggie Bush - B
#21 Laurence Maroney - C
#27 DeAngelo Williams - A
#30 Joseph Addai - B
#45 LenDale White - D
#60 Maurice Jones-Drew - A

Notable later round RBs
#117 Leon Washington
#145 Jerome Harrison

2007
#7 Adrian Peterson - A
#12 Marshawn Lynch - F (For Buffalo, made worse by trading him for nothing)
#49 Kenny Irons - D
#50 Chris Henry - F
#52 Brian Leonard - C
#63 Brandon Jackson - F

Notable later round RBs
#100 Michael Bush
#250 Ahmad Bradshaw

2008
#4 Darren McFadden - C
#13 Jonathan Stewart - B
#22 Felix Jones - C
#23 Rashard Mendenhall - C
#24 Chris Johnson - A
#44 Matt Forte - A
#55 Ray Rice - A

Notable later round RBs
#73 Jamaal Charles
#89 Steve Slaton
#227 Peyton Hillis

2009
#12 Knowshon Moreno - F
#27 Donald Brown - C
#31 Beanie Wells - D
#53 LeSean McCoy - B

Notable later round RBs
#65 Shonn Greene

2010
#9 C.J. Spiller - D
#12 Ryan Mathews - D
#30 Jahvid Best - D
#36 Dexter McCluster - C
#51 Toby Gerhart - C
#58 Ben Tate - C
#59 Montario Hardesty - F

Notable later round RBs
#197 Trindon Holliday

2011
#28 Mark Ingram - F
#38 Ryan Williams - D
#56 Shane Vereen - B
#57 Mikel Leshoure - C
#62 Daniel Thomas - C

Notable later round RBs
#71 Demarco Murray
#73 Stevan Ridley
#105 Ray Helu

2012
#3 Trent Richardson - B (SOLELY on getting a First Rounder for him)
#31 Doug Martin - A
#32 David Wilson - D
#50 Isaiah Pead - F
#61 LaMichael James - C

Notable later round RBs
#173 Alfred Morris
#229 Bryce Brown

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Conclusion, there can be value in the first 2 Rounds for RBs, but generally teams waste picks that high.

See the problem with this is that even when you give a RB an "A" grade, like Chris Johnson, or Adrian Peterson...

it's only an "A" in terms of success as a RB. It's STILL an "F" in terms of team success. What has Chris Johnson ever done for the Titans other than steal money from them after a single 2000 yard season (in which the team went 8-8).

What has Adrian Peterson done for the Vikings other than a string of mediocre seasons and one season where Brett Favre did all the real work?

Even when a first round RB "succeeds", it's still a failure for the team.

Because they could get similar levels of *impact* on the game from a low round RB who could provide 80% of what Peterson or Johnson provide. And 80% of that doesn't impact the game significantly less than 100% of that.

Because in the end, it's not rushing yardage that wins games, it's passing yardage (and your ability to stop opposing passing yardage).

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Dan Marino - F

Dolphins should have gone with a guy who could win one.

Larry Fitzgerald - D

Look at his team record. Another bust of a draft pick.

Calvin Johnson - F

Where are the playoff wins huh CJ?
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Dan Marino - F

Dolphins should have gone with a guy who could win one.

Larry Fitzgerald - D

Look at his team record. Another bust of a draft pick.

Calvin Johnson - F

Where are the playoff wins huh CJ?
The difference is that Adrian Peterson Vikings teams have been mediocre. I'm not even talking about Super Bowl wins or playoff wins. Dan Marino actually took teams deep into the playoffs and had consistently *good* regular season teams. Peterson, even though he's the best RB in teh league, plays a position that just doesn't impact the game enough to do the same thing that Marino has done.

And with regard to WRs... they are nothing without a good QB. Again, you need a good QB first and foremost. But if you *do* get that QB, a la Cardinals and Kurt Warner for a few years... that WR can make a good QB an elite QB. The RB won't make the QB much better unless he's an excellent blitz pickup RB or an excellent pass catcher (which most RBs are not).
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Having a strong running game absolutely helps a QB. If there is minimal threat of a run a defense can show anything it wants in coverage or pressure packages. However, if an offense has Adrian Peterson you better believe that in any normal situation, ie not 3rd and long, 2 minute drill etc, you will see an 8 man box at least. If you think it's just as easy to throw with no run threat as it is with a guy who can dominate on the ground then I don't know what to say. The Vikings aren't struggling because they have a stud RB and an average QB, it is because they have bad QBs who can't take advantage of the favorable matchups in the passing game
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Well, no matter what Ache Ten says, running the ball is still around 30% of a team's offense and most championship teams have decent running attacks, so team are going to continue to draft RB's in round 1 if they are missing that ingredient. Obviously passing the ball is 70% of the offense so priority will be given to that side of the offense when drafting by a wide margin but many teams will still try to find a RB in round 1 if they feel the one on their draft board warrants a high pick and they are desperate for one.
There is a reason why Ache Ten has a rating of minus 28,992 , it is because he is looking for the ridiculous rather that putting forth a real argument.

Teams have their draft boards and pretty well follow them and if they are in need of that 30% of their offense and that RB is the highest on their draft board, then teams will continue to take the risk, knowing the risks but also appreciating that many teams may have passed on the RB because it isn't a high priority on draft day, just like teams pass on OC's, OG's and RT's. But that doesn't mean they still won't get picked in round 1, just not with a very high 1st rounder. Cleveland is a franchise that was run by a bunch of idiots, so Richardson's failure should come as no surprise.
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See the problem with this is that even when you give a RB an "A" grade, like Chris Johnson, or Adrian Peterson...

it's only an "A" in terms of success as a RB. It's STILL an "F" in terms of team success. What has Chris Johnson ever done for the Titans other than steal money from them after a single 2000 yard season (in which the team went 8-8).

What has Adrian Peterson done for the Vikings other than a string of mediocre seasons and one season where Brett Favre did all the real work?

Even when a first round RB "succeeds", it's still a failure for the team.

Because they could get similar levels of *impact* on the game from a low round RB who could provide 80% of what Peterson or Johnson provide. And 80% of that doesn't impact the game significantly less than 100% of that.

Because in the end, it's not rushing yardage that wins games, it's passing yardage (and your ability to stop opposing passing yardage).


Most teams need a running game to help strengthen their offense to succeed.
I also find it HILARIOUS you call Adrian Peterson's seasons mediocre. 1,300+ rushing yards and double digit TD's is so easy to do isn't it. Last year, 5 RB's accomplished that feat, and you know what, every one except one made the postseason. 2 of them won postseason games(and 1 of them had to lose as they went head to head).
I just don't know what is worse. Your love for Brandon Graham, or calling Adrian Peterson's seasons mediocre.
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All you guys talking about AP. It's not on him that the team that drafted him tried to develop Tarvaris Jackson that didn't work out. After that they turned to a 40 year old which took them to the door of the SB. And when that fell apart they drafted Christian Ponder and fit McNabb in there somewhere.

Picking AP at 7 was hands down the right move. 100%. Just like the Lions taking Berry Sanders at 3 was 100% the right move.

What both these teams failed to do was find a QB and build around these great players.
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What has Chris Johnson ever done for the Titans other than steal money from them after a single 2000 yard season (in which the team went 8-8).
You say that like there are people with multiple 2000 yard seasons.
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You say that like there are people with multiple 2000 yard seasons.
Who cares about a 2000 yard season? What does it do for the team? In terms of team success, a 2000 yard season is a *liability*.

It means your passing attack was woeful. It means your RB is taking a pounding. It means people will have an inflated perception of your RB and you will be forced to overpay for one flukey season (beacause 2000 yard rushers ALWAYS revert to the mean).

A great season from a RB is the kiss of death for team success. If I'm a General Manager, I don't *want* an elite RB on my team.
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Most teams need a running game to help strengthen their offense to succeed.
I also find it HILARIOUS you call Adrian Peterson's seasons mediocre. 1,300+ rushing yards and double digit TD's is so easy to do isn't it. Last year, 5 RB's accomplished that feat, and you know what, every one except one made the postseason. 2 of them won postseason games(and 1 of them had to lose as they went head to head).
I just don't know what is worse. Your love for Brandon Graham, or calling Adrian Peterson's seasons mediocre.
What Adrian Peterson did is amazing for a RB. No doubt, he is the best RB in the league and the best RB over the past 10 years, and possibly one of the the 3 best RBs ever.

But that means little for the Vikings. If all you care about is Adrian Peterson's career, or your fantasy team with Adrian Peterson on it, then AP is great. If you care about the Vikings, i.e. you are a fan of the team or you are the General Manager, then Adrian Peterson, despite all of the amazing things he has done as a RB, is more of a liability for you than an asset.
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Well, no matter what Ache Ten says, running the ball is still around 30% of a team's offense and most championship teams have decent running attacks, so team are going to continue to draft RB's in round 1 if they are missing that ingredient. Obviously passing the ball is 70% of the offense so priority will be given to that side of the offense when drafting by a wide margin but many teams will still try to find a RB in round 1 if they feel the one on their draft board warrants a high pick and they are desperate for one.
There is a reason why Ache Ten has a rating of minus 28,992 , it is because he is looking for the ridiculous rather that putting forth a real argument.

Teams have their draft boards and pretty well follow them and if they are in need of that 30% of their offense and that RB is the highest on their draft board, then teams will continue to take the risk, knowing the risks but also appreciating that many teams may have passed on the RB because it isn't a high priority on draft day, just like teams pass on OC's, OG's and RT's. But that doesn't mean they still won't get picked in round 1, just not with a very high 1st rounder. Cleveland is a franchise that was run by a bunch of idiots, so Richardson's failure should come as no surprise.
So the running game is less than 40% of a good team's offense and yet you are saying that teams are still smart for prioritizing that position over other positions that affect the passing game?

And yeah, if you haven't noticed, Trent Richardson has been bad for the Colts as well. It's not just Cleveland - Richardson and RBs in general are just marginal impact contributors in modern day football.
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Having a strong running game absolutely helps a QB. If there is minimal threat of a run a defense can show anything it wants in coverage or pressure packages. However, if an offense has Adrian Peterson you better believe that in any normal situation, ie not 3rd and long, 2 minute drill etc, you will see an 8 man box at least. If you think it's just as easy to throw with no run threat as it is with a guy who can dominate on the ground then I don't know what to say. The Vikings aren't struggling because they have a stud RB and an average QB, it is because they have bad QBs who can't take advantage of the favorable matchups in the passing game
This is a myth.

Teams without elite RBs are just as successful in play action as teams with them. Listen to Greg Cosell talk about tape study and how effective play-action is even without the threat of a real running game.

Look at all of the QBs that have succeeded with mediocre or worse running attacks in the past 5+ years. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, etc, etc. You don't need a good running attack to have a good passing attack.

If the Vikings had a good QB who could take advantage of favorable matchups in the passing game, then they wouldn't need an elite RB, they'd just need 70-80% of what Peterson can provide, which any late round draft pick or free agent can give them.
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Who cares about a 2000 yard season? What does it do for the team? In terms of team success, a 2000 yard season is a *liability*.

It means your passing attack was woeful. It means your RB is taking a pounding. It means people will have an inflated perception of your RB and you will be forced to overpay for one flukey season (beacause 2000 yard rushers ALWAYS revert to the mean).

A great season from a RB is the kiss of death for team success. If I'm a General Manager, I don't *want* an elite RB on my team.
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Kind of ironic that you posted a picture of a Hall of Fame QB as your response to my claim that the RB is fungible and replaceable.

If you remember correctly, all of the success that Mike Shanahan has had with the running game over the years has been with EXACTLY THE KIND OF RB I AM ENDORSING: the late-round draft pick / undrafted free agent (i.e. Terrel Davis, Alfred Morris types). Elite first round running backs are not necessary if you have a good QB and a good offensive system.

The opposite is not true. All of the RBs in the history of the league who were good had little to no success without a QB playing next to them.
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That list of RB grades was terrible. Terrible grading that is.

But I somewhat agree with the poster. I don't agree about the lack of value having an. AD, Charles, Lynch, McCoy etc.. bbuta RB should not be a priority at all unless he is leaps and bounds above his peers.

Case in point, Steven Jackson can't do anything that the duo of Jason Snelling and Quizz Rodgers can't do. He just costs more money. Terrible signing by us, even if I had decent hopes for him.
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Kind of ironic that you posted a picture of a Hall of Fame QB as your response to my claim that the RB is fungible and replaceable.
That wasn't your claim. These were your claims:

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Who cares about a 2000 yard season? What does it do for the team? In terms of team success, a 2000 yard season is a *liability*.
The 1998 Broncos featured a 2,000 yard rusher and won the Super Bowl after losing just two games the entire year. For a large portion of the season, they looked like a legitimate threat to go 16-0.

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It means your passing attack was woeful.
They finished with a top 10 passing attack even though Elway missed 4 starts.

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It means your RB is taking a pounding.
Fair point, wear and tear will hurt a running back in the long run, but it's hard to argue against it if it results in a Super Bowl.

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It means people will have an inflated perception of your RB and you will be forced to overpay for one flukey season (beacause 2000 yard rushers ALWAYS revert to the mean).
I have no idea how TD's contract went after the 1998 year but even if it was costly, the Broncos showed an ability to rebound from it with the success of other backs in the years that followed. It was hardly a franchise crippler.

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A great season from a RB is the kiss of death for team success. If I'm a General Manager, I don't *want* an elite RB on my team.
And that's where you're the most wrong. If TD can have a 2,000 yard campaign and the Broncos win the Super Bowl, how was it a death for team success? Better yet, Emmitt Smith lead the NFL in rushing during each of the Cowboys three Super Bowl runs in the early 90s. Are you gonna tell me he was a detriment too?

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If you remember correctly, all of the success that Mike Shanahan has had with the running game over the years has been with EXACTLY THE KIND OF RB I AM ENDORSING: the late-round draft pick / undrafted free agent (i.e. Terrel Davis, Alfred Morris types). Elite first round running backs are not necessary if you have a good QB and a good offensive system.
That's not what you said though, you said elite running backs were hazardous to a team and would not result in any sort of team success. Are you telling me TD wasn't an elite running back during his prime? And if you have a good QB and a good offensive system, why not take a chance on a running back in the first round? You can't seriously tell me it was wrong for the Cowboys to take Emmitt Smith in the first round.

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All of the RBs in the history of the league who were good had little to no success without a QB playing next to them.
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Guys, Acheten doesn't want a great player on his team if it's a RB.

Glad he cleared that up.
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That wasn't your claim. These were your claims:



The 1998 Broncos featured a 2,000 yard rusher and won the Super Bowl after losing just two games the entire year. For a large portion of the season, they looked like a legitimate threat to go 16-0.



They finished with a top 10 passing attack even though Elway missed 4 starts.
The 2000 yards were a symptom of a great offense and not the cause. Fact of the matter is that they had a great QB and a great offensive line blocking scheme. Nearly any RB could have succeeded in that system.

Sure, they had a great running game that contributed to their Super Bowl runs, but again, the 2000 yard season was just a byproduct of a great offense overall. A 2000 yard season in itself is not something in itself fundamentally valuable, and certainly not an impetus to draft a RB high.


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Fair point, wear and tear will hurt a running back in the long run, but it's hard to argue against it if it results in a Super Bowl.
Again, the main point I am making is that 2000 yard seasons are not a reason to draft a RB high. That's the main point. I'm sure the rushing attack contributed to the Borncos Super Bowl runs, but they did it with a late round RB in an offensive scheme that could have done it with nearly any RB.

And again, all that running basically meant that Davis' career was over within a few years anyway. And when Elway finally left after 1998, the chunks of yardage didn't mean much without that great QB.




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I have no idea how TD's contract went after the 1998 year but even if it was costly, the Broncos showed an ability to rebound from it with the success of other backs in the years that followed. It was hardly a franchise crippler.
Actually, if you look at that contract, it was a gigantic waste of money for the Broncos and a cap constricter. They were forced to overpay for Davis who then suffered injuries (because all RBs take a pounding) and did nothing to repay the Broncos in terms of performance.


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And that's where you're the most wrong. If TD can have a 2,000 yard campaign and the Broncos win the Super Bowl, how was it a death for team success? Better yet, Emmitt Smith lead the NFL in rushing during each of the Cowboys three Super Bowl runs in the early 90s. Are you gonna tell me he was a detriment too?
You are confusing correlation with causation. The running game is a small portion of the overall offensive success. The QB is the most important part. And defense is highly impactful on team sucess as well. I'd take offensive players that affect my passing game (QB, OT, WR) defensive players that affect opposing passing games (DE/34OLB, CB, FS) over RB every single time in the first two rounds.

Without Troy Aikman throwing to Michael Irvin and other WRs/TEs, and without the great Jimmy Johnson defense on those Cowboys teams, Emmitt Smith doesn't even have a chance to run the ball late in games that the Cowboys were leading comfortably and pad his stats.

Without Emmit Smith, I'd bet money that Aikman, Irvin, Harper, Johnston, the beastly Offensive Line would still score just as many points, and the defense with Haley, Maryland, etc would still keep opponents off the board.

Sub in any RB into Smith's position and the Cowboys still win just as many Super Bowls. You can't say that comfortably about other positions like Aikman, Irvin, Haley, etc.



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That's not what you said though, you said elite running backs were hazardous to a team and would not result in any sort of team success. Are you telling me TD wasn't an elite running back during his prime? And if you have a good QB and a good offensive system, why not take a chance on a running back in the first round? You can't seriously tell me it was wrong for the Cowboys to take Emmitt Smith in the first round.
Smith eventually caused the cowboys to overpay for him and hurt their cap and accelerated their downfall. If they realized that they could have plugged in any RB into that system with the best OL in the game, they could have continued being a great team longer, imho.

Also, they could have been even better if they had not drafted Smith with a first round pick. Either way, if they put in a late round RB I think they still are the same multiple title team, because that OL was the key to their offensive success, along with Aikman throwing to Irvin, Harper, and Johnston.
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Guys, Acheten doesn't want a great player on his team if it's a RB.

Glad he cleared that up.
I'd rather have great players at other positions.

And if you're drafting RBs high, there is *always* that opportunity cost of missing out on great players at other positions.

And if you're paying out huge contracts to great RBs, there is the opportunity cost of failing to pay players at more valuable positions (important with salary cap).
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There is a huge difference between "shouldn't spend a high draft pick" and "NEVER spend a high draft pick." Some RBs are worth it.

Just because a QB is worth more than a RB, it doesn't mean running backs are completely worthless.

Not every RB is plug and play, even in great situations.
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There is a huge difference between "shouldn't spend a high draft pick" and "NEVER spend a high draft pick." Some RBs are worth it.
I don't think they are. You can draw the line at guys like Ladanian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson, and there definitely is an argument because those types of guys are SO GOOD as RBs, but in the end, what have these guys actually done for their teams' success without a great QB playing alongside them?

Tomlinson was great but all the Chargers' success came when they had an elite defense with great pass rush from guys like Shawne Merriman, and had a great passing attack with Phillip Rivers.

Peterson is supremely great but all the real success the Vikings had was in 2009 under Brett Favre playing like an MVP and a great defense with Jared Allen and the Williams Wall on DLine.

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Just because a QB is worth more than a RB, it doesn't mean running backs are completely worthless.

Not every RB is plug and play, even in great situations.
Every single time you pick a RB high you are paying an opportunity cost of missing out on players at more valuable positions. I'd rather take a chance on a 43 DE, 34OLB, CB, WR over a RB in the first round every single time. Even if the RB is a Tomlinson / Peterson esque prospect. And if I don't have a QB then it's no contest - it's downright negligent to pick the RB in that case in the top-10.
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I don't think they are. You can draw the line at guys like Ladanian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson, and there definitely is an argument because those types of guys are SO GOOD as RBs, but in the end, what have these guys actually done for their teams' success without a great QB playing alongside them?

Tomlinson was great but all the Chargers' success came when they had an elite defense with great pass rush from guys like Shawne Merriman, and had a great passing attack with Phillip Rivers.

Peterson is supremely great but all the real success the Vikings had was in 2009 under Brett Favre playing like an MVP and a great defense with Jared Allen and the Williams Wall on DLine.



Every single time you pick a RB high you are paying an opportunity cost of missing out on players at more valuable positions. I'd rather take a chance on a 43 DE, 34OLB, CB, WR over a RB in the first round every single time. Even if the RB is a Tomlinson / Peterson esque prospect. And if I don't have a QB then it's no contest - it's downright negligent to pick the RB in that case in the top-10.
So you dont think Favre/Rivers success had anything to do with having elite running backs keeping the defense honest? Sure, no running back is gonna guide his team to success without a solid supporting cast, but that can be said for every position.
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I'd rather have great players at other positions.

And if you're drafting RBs high, there is *always* that opportunity cost of missing out on great players at other positions.

And if you're paying out huge contracts to great RBs, there is the opportunity cost of failing to pay players at more valuable positions (important with salary cap).
With the new salary cap structure, that really doesnt make a lot of sense. If you draft a running back high, he is not going to be taking a huge chunk out of your payroll, and running backs generally make a very quick transition to the NFL. So if you have a good team in place, but your run game is lacking, it actually makes quite a lot of sense to go for an early round running back, who can make a high impact early without a big cap hit. Eddie Lacy to the Packers or Giovanni Bernard to the Bengals this year are prime examples.
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