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Old 11-08-2013, 12:56 AM    (permalink
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I don't understand why you think they would take Miami. Miami doesn't have any fans that actually attend games.
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Because the Orange Bowl Committee is filled with people involved with the school and who work with people at the school, fans don't turn out for **** games but for big time games they show up (e.g. UF this year), they'd wouldn't even have to sell what they usually have to sell for a home game because their ticket allotment would be only a portion of the stadium, and the fans who don't buy from the ticket allotment would buy the tickets that are sold to the general public directly, so they would probably see an increase in tickets sold directly to the public, it's a safe pick, and if you get another school that does have real fans you know will travel then you'll have a solid crowd. That's why.
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Also Tyler Gaffney said put it on me with 45 carries!
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Thank you Stanford.

Funny how that gimmick offense gets shut the **** down against a defence with a pulse.
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Thank you Stanford.

Funny how that gimmick offense gets shut the **** down against a defence with a pulse.
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"We have an up-tempo defense and they run, they hit and they prepare," coach Jim Tressel said. "Terrelle did a heck of a job."
Love or hate JT, he was a funny ahole when he wanted to be. That was in direct response to Chip Kelly before the game saying that OSU hadn't seen an uptempo offense like Oregon's before.

Biggest issue with Oregon is their mediocre O and D lines. Flash works when you have time to throw it or get a player into space.

And on D, if you can't stop the run or get to the QB quickly, you are screwed.

Oregon does not and has not excelled in those areas ever. They've had standout individuals, but not a great unit. Bama, FSU, OSU, and Stanford have outstanding O and D lines this year.
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Yeah, and the thing about OSU's uptempo spread offense this year is that they have the best OLine in the country probably, good all around TEs, good blocking receivers and a very very physical beast of a back in Carlos Hyde. If our defense is improved for real like it has shown the past two weeks and not terrible in pass defense once it plays a real team then OSU can beat anyone. Everyone wants a shot at Bama bc they're the SEC darling and defending champs and everything, but I have a feeling they'll lose one and FLorida State will run the table.
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That is a great quote.

Hopefully in the future Oregon won't get such a disgusting benefit of the doubt when they've done nothing to deserve it. Their offense looks pretty against bad to slightly above average teams but at the end of the day is nothing but a gimmick.
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Yeah, and the thing about OSU's uptempo spread offense this year is that they have the best OLine in the country probably, good all around TEs, good blocking receivers and a very very physical beast of a back in Carlos Hyde. If our defense is improved for real like it has shown the past two weeks and not terrible in pass defense once it plays a real team then OSU can beat anyone. Everyone wants a shot at Bama bc they're the SEC darling and defending champs and everything, but I have a feeling they'll lose one and FLorida State will run the table.
If I were Ohio State I would be worked about Baylor jumping them. If they go undefeated they'll have a definitive edge in schedule. Unfortunately there are no defenses in the Big 12 worth a ****.
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If they can beat Oklahoma State and Texas Tech and Texas and stay unbeaten they probably deserve a title game shot....though like you said those teams don't have defenses worth a ****. If Ohio State can blow out all the rest of their schedule (including 1 loss Michigan State and their elite defense) like they just did Penn State and Purdue (Urban knows he needs style points from here on out) it will be an interesting debate hypothetically.
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That is a great quote.

Hopefully in the future Oregon won't get such a disgusting benefit of the doubt when they've done nothing to deserve it. Their offense looks pretty against bad to slightly above average teams but at the end of the day is nothing but a gimmick.
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When is the last time they faced a good defense and didn't get shut down?
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Why in the world does that make the offense a gimmick? Maybe their OL just isn't that good?
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Why in the world does that make the offense a gimmick? Maybe their OL just isn't that good?
Because they can't depend on beating teams straight up and need to catch them out of position or between play calls. I completely agree with Saban that the offense should not be allowed to put the defense at such a disadvantage.

Not to mention of we actually care about player safety and not becoming the Arena League it definitely puts players at more risk for injury than most of the hits that have been made illegal the past 5 years.
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There is one scenario no one is talking about.

Florida State and Alabama both lose a game....we end up with a Baylor-Ohio State NC game. The media would **** it's collective pants!
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Why in the world does that make the offense a gimmick? Maybe their OL just isn't that good?
The offensive line is part of the offense...

I'm not saying the offense is a gimmick per se. But the extreme lack of physicality does make Oregon very beatable. Every time they play a physical team (Ohio State, LSU, Auburn, Stanford) they are held to 20 points or more under their season average. It's so predictable. Get a team to punch them in the mouth and they lose every time.
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Any offense loses when the other team controls the LOS, it literally has nothing to do with Oregon's offensive scheme. It's ******* 2013 how are we not done with this "gimmick" ********.
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Because it literally the definition of a gimmick......

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Since it can't compete with teams with a pulse on defense.
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Maybe if Oregon recruited and developed OL who could block talented DLs that wouldn't happen. \_(ツ)_/
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Maybe if Oregon recruited and developed OL who could block talented DLs that wouldn't happen. \_(ツ)_/
Then they should stop recruiting the West Coast for those players. Other than the kids Stanford has pulled in, West Coast kids are the definition of soft. I am actually working on an article for SB Nation about it. When West Coast kids leave the P12 region they tend to bust out pretty badly.

As for Oregon looking back to 2007 when Kelly came in, there is a clear and decisive trend that they don't do anything against physical defenses. They look pretty because it's rare the P12 has those types of defenses, but nonetheless they need to stop being ranked so highly until they prove they can actually beat a good defense.

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The Oregon line is actually very good. Fisher and Grasu will eventually get drafted and Tyler Johnstone, who has more than held his own against Barr and Murphy, will be a 1st round pick in 2015. They missed Colt Lyerla last night, not only in the passing game but also to pick up blitzers.

The problem last night was their defense couldn't stop the run.
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