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Old 11-11-2013, 01:14 PM    (permalink
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And Alex Smith is 30th. What's your point?
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It's probably completely reasonable to discuss Andrew Luck's play (and statistics) this season. And maybe under the premise that he hasn't actually been a football god he's portrayed to be. I'd probably argue against it and cite Pep Hamilton's insistence on not allowing him to be himself, and stupid supporting cast situations, which are points that would run into viable counters.

But adding Alex Smith into that argument really screws it up.
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Andrew Luck, honestly, gets such a pass to criticism a lot due to his hype and status.
That said, I think it is laughable to compare a guy in his 8th/9th season to a 2nd year QB who lost a HOF WR and playing without a running game basically.
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Yeah, Luck doesn't get criticized enough. We need to make sure a criticism quota is met every week for him. I'll start.

Luck is overrated because he doesn't pass for 300 yards every week.

Luck is overrated because he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.


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Yeah, Luck doesn't get criticized enough. We need to make sure a criticism quota is met every week for him. I'll start.

Luck is overrated because he doesn't pass for 300 yards every week.

Luck is overrated because he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.


Whew! Glad I got that outta the way! Now I can sleep better tonight!

****, I just realized I'm a few years behind in my unnecessarily harsh quarterback criticism quota. Thanks for the reminder.





List of great NFL quarterbacks:

******* nobody.




List of good NFL quarterbacks:

Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers



List of mediocre NFL quarterbacks:

Ben Roethlisberger
Russell Wilson
Shaun Hill



List of quarterbacks who suck and should be fired for incompetence:

Derek Anderson
Matt Barkley
McLeod Bethel-Thompson
Tyler Bray
Jason Campbell
Matt Cassel
Kellen Clemens
Kirk Cousins
Jay Cutler
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Luck is overrated because he doesn't pass for 300 yards every week.

Luck is overrated because he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.


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So overrated I mean, geez, great QB's are supposed to make scrubs like Heyward-Bey into studs.
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So overrated I mean, geez, great QB's are supposed to make scrubs like Heyward-Bey into studs.
So if you can pull that card, can I take away all of his stats to Reggie Wayne, one of the best WRs of all time?
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So if you can pull that card, can I take away all of his stats to Reggie Wayne, one of the best WRs of all time?
Only if we take away the stats of every QB who's ever had an elite WR.
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Only if we take away the stats of every QB who's ever had an elite WR.

I've been told you're only supposed to do that with Kurt Warner.
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How do you get blown out by not only the Rams, but the Rams with a backup QB? Like the idiot football coach played by John Goodman said in "Revenge of the Nerds": "You got your asses kicked by a bunch of god damn nerds. NNNEEEERRRRRDS!"
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I've been told you're only supposed to do that with Kurt Warner.
The only passes he ever threw that counted were to Az-Zahir Hakim.
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I wish I loved anything as much as you guys on here love Andrew Luck.
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I thought we weren't counting passes to elite WRs?
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Az Hakim wasn't elite, but he formed a great tandem of starting WRs with two elite guys, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt. Az was a good slot guy.
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I wish I loved anything as much as you guys on here love Andrew Luck.
I think you were just (discreetly) yearning for more of the riveting Alex Smith discussions we used to have around here.

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I wish I loved anything as much as you guys on here love Andrew Luck.
I'm open to discussing Luck's play. I'm not open to discussing if Luck is a better player than Alex Smith.
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But Luck has had so many clutch, late-game moments.
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The Titans are 4-5 and just lost their starting QB for the year. The Jaguars and Texans have a combined 3 wins through week 10. Put Alex Smith on the Colts this year and they are still a playoff team by default. They might not get very far, but they'd still be going.
tell me youre joking. Youre telling me they would have beat the Broncos, Seahawks and Niners with Alex Smith at QB? I think not. And they certainly wouldnt have pulled that comeback against the Texans with Alex Smith.

And all you guys coming to Lucks defense one thing I havent heard yet that needs to be said is compare their OL. Luck gets pretty terrible protection and the line doesnt get push in the run game. It makes life hard on a QB. Comparing stats is kinda silly.
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Keep trying, Andrew. It wasn't your fault.
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