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Old 11-21-2013, 10:53 AM    (permalink
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I've seen her from a distance and she looks even smarter in person. I'm hopinh to see her again next Friday.
Ask her to help you with your homework. Hopefully her genius pays off and improves your standing at school.
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Sean McGuire is going to have a chance to QB a team to a national championship.

Wonder if they fall in the polls even if they keep on winning like they are without Winston.
If Winston isn't there you have to imagine Florida State drops to the back of the pack of undefeateds...because while they may be undefeated they are not the same team voters have been voting for without Winston. It's a unique situation we rarely ever see with great teams. But the polls are about what the team is today, not what they were the rest of the season. All hypothetical at this point but it would be kinda ridiculous if people think Florida State with someone who is not Jameis Winston at QB is the #2 team right now. I know a few years back (okay, like 10 years back), Ohio State dropped a couple spots in the polls when it was revealed that Maurice Clarett was suspended for the year in 2003.
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This is why I like Bortles as a prospect. Smart girlfriend means confidence.

I'm also pretty sure I chose the wrong career path. I should have been a future NFL QB.
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Yeah, they had a player die, but the guy had sickle cell anemia which has caused the death of multiple other players. You can't really blame UCF for that. Blame genetics.

UCF won their appeal on this. It was more the basketball program than the football team. It was basically one person who made inappropriate contact with recruits. Not exactly mind-blowing rules violations.



There are better pictures out there but I'm not going to look for them at work.
That's a high number 1 pick you're looking at there.
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So Winston ****** the chick, so there's that.
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So Winston ****** the chick, so there's that.
But of course it was consensual.

Here comes Massnole saying he knew it the whole time, and that he would let Jameis bang him.
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Guys, jump on the UCF bandwagon. They've had only 3 guys arrested the last four seasons, their academic progress rate of 975 is just four points from being top-ten in the country, and our star QB already has a large-breasted girlfriend so you don't have to worry about him raping anyone.

So if you are getting jaded by all the scum crawling arounf college football, we'd love to have you at UCF, one of the few clean programs.
Didn't George O'Leary basically kill a kid and say it was no big deal?

Edit: DG beat me to it.
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Brian Kelly did that also.
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Didn't George O'Leary basically kill a kid and say it was no big deal?

Edit: DG beat me to it.
Like I said, he had sickle cell anemia. O'Leary was aware of this but he wasn't showing any signs of being in any danger. A jury awarded the family $10 million but said UCF was not negligent enough to face punitive damages. Three judges then unanaimously overturned the $10 million decision.
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Still no sign of Mass? I was expecting him to have chimed in on this by now.
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Still no sign of Mass? I was expecting him to have chimed in on this by now.
Why do you care? The guy has shown his true stripes repetitively, he is just not a good person (at least his online NFLDC persona). He revels in kids getting hurt, **** talks every other program out there, and lately has been a jackass about a chick that got allegedly raped.

Maybe the guy is cool in real life, but he is a complete dick on here and represents a big part of what I don't like about college sportsball.
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If Winston isn't there you have to imagine Florida State drops to the back of the pack of undefeateds...because while they may be undefeated they are not the same team voters have been voting for without Winston. It's a unique situation we rarely ever see with great teams. But the polls are about what the team is today, not what they were the rest of the season. All hypothetical at this point but it would be kinda ridiculous if people think Florida State with someone who is not Jameis Winston at QB is the #2 team right now. I know a few years back (okay, like 10 years back), Ohio State dropped a couple spots in the polls when it was revealed that Maurice Clarett was suspended for the year in 2003.
Moot point unless they actually lose a game.
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Why do you care? The guy has shown his true stripes repetitively, he is just not a good person (at least his online NFLDC persona). He revels in kids getting hurt, **** talks every other program out there, and lately has been a jackass about a chick that got allegedly raped.

Maybe the guy is cool in real life, but he is a complete dick on here and represents a big part of what I don't like about college sportsball.
Sometimes it's hard to see clearly through those homer glasses.

Not you but a lot of people in here don't need to be throwing stones at anyone.
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Why do you care? The guy has shown his true stripes repetitively, he is just not a good person (at least his online NFLDC persona). He revels in kids getting hurt, **** talks every other program out there, and lately has been a jackass about a chick that got allegedly raped.

Maybe the guy is cool in real life, but he is a complete dick on here and represents a big part of what I don't like about college sportsball.
Woah, didn't really care. I was just saying that because I thought it was funny he's gone quiet since the new evidence came out.
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Apparently another witness (supposedly the roommate) submitted his DNA as well, which would imply that the accuser may have had sex with two individuals that night.
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Woah, didn't really care. I was just saying that because I thought it was funny he's gone quiet since the new evidence came out.
Yeah, I just get too easily frustrated with super fans and their enablement of shady practices in college sportsball.

I mean, I've only seen 5 OSU games this year. And of those, only two did I actively pay attention to.

I just don't care that much because the system is like figure skating with corrupt, heavily invested judges.

Baylor may be the best team in the country, but my biases say they aren't. I'm wrong a lot. Regardless, a playoff would at least give them a chance to prove it (or to prove that they are one of the best teams during the tournament).

Blah blah blah. Sorry for the ranting.
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Moot point unless they actually lose a game.
I think the point is that if Bama, FSU, OSU, and Baylor all go undefeated headed into bowl season, would FSU drop to #3 or #4 out of that group if Winston cannot play. If they lose, obviously they drop.
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Moot point unless they actually lose a game.
Not really. If Florida State is undefeated then Jameis Winston gets suspended, voters have to ask themselves if they think Florida State without Winston should be ranked higher than undefeated Baylor and Ohio State if it comes to that. It's an interesting dilemma, because FSU shouldn't be in there if that is the case, as unfair as it might be after the season they've had where they clearly are a top 2 team with Winston, probably consensus #1 if voters didn't put past seasons/title defense into consideration.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the major pieces of evidence we know are:
  • DNA from the "rape kit" matches Winston.
  • Victim stated that a Tallahassee detective warned her off pressing charges due to public stature of Winston. i.e. Football fans are stupid be ready for a backlash.
  • Affidavits from Winston's attorneys states two witness that refute the assault charge from the night in question. They also include an admission from Winston that he had consensual sex with the victim and has fully cooperated with investigators.

They are reviewing the medical records and 99.9% of the time that'll be where the decision is made. If there's trauma i.e indication of rape then most likely Winston will be charged. If there's not this thing gets tossed very quickly.

That being said I'm not defending Winston. If he's guilty he deserves to rot in prison while being someone's girlfriend.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the major pieces of evidence we know are:
  • DNA from the "rape kit" matches Winston.
  • Victim stated that a Tallahassee detective warned her off pressing charges due to public stature of Winston. i.e. Football fans are stupid be ready for a backlash.
  • Affidavits from Winston's attorneys states two witness that refute the assault charge from the night in question. They also include an admission from Winston that he had consensual sex with the victim and has fully cooperated with investigators.

They are reviewing the medical records and 99.9% of the time that'll be where the decision is made. If there's trauma i.e indication of rape then most likely Winston will be charged. If there's not this thing gets tossed very quickly.

That being said I'm not defending Winston. If he's guilty he deserves to rot in prison while being someone's girlfriend.
He will not have charges pressed against him. The case was effectively killed by sitting on it for so long. That is even assuming that he raped her. But the delay makes everything smell rotten in denmark.
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He will not have charges pressed against him. The case was effectively killed by sitting on it for so long. That is even assuming that he raped her. But the delay makes everything smell rotten in denmark.
True enough. I suspect the same thing. Although if the medical indicates trauma it will hard to avoid charging him even with the time. Especially if the DA wants the case as he could easily put the officer on leave and charge him with witness intimidation or obstruction of justice.

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True enough. I suspect the same thing. Although the medical indicates trauma it will hard to avoid charging him even with the time. Especially if the DA wants the case as he could easily put the officer on leave and charge him with witness intimidation or obstruction of justice.
The whole thing makes me sick and sad inside.
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The whole thing makes me sick and sad inside.
If he's guilty it's par for the course to be honest. If you have money/power you can expect to get away with pretty much anything.

Corrected my last post too. Meant to put "if" the medical review hasn't been made public yet.
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If he's guilty it's par for the course to be honest. If you have money/power you can expect to get away with pretty much anything.

Corrected my last post too. Meant to put "if" the medical review hasn't been made public yet.
Yeah, and if he's not guilty, it makes me sick because she's trying to **** his life up.
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Yeah, and if he's not guilty, it makes me sick because she's trying to **** his life up.
You need to mellow out big fellow.

Go watch coverage of the Kennedy assassination or something. You should be old enough to remember that, right?
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