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Old 01-04-2014, 12:34 PM    (permalink
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I swear, no exaggeration, offline I don't know a single Colts fan that will even admit that Peyton Manning > Luck.

I get so much "LOL JUSS WINZ GAMEZ, PERFECT RECORD AGAINST PEYTON" every time I try to explain that one to them.

So I said that knowing all too well what's going to be coming my way.
Peyton Manning > Luck

Sorry I'm not in person. :/
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:37 PM    (permalink
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Oh, crap. Now guys are bringing up supporting cast. When Cutler's outside receivers were Devin Hester and Rashied Davis and he was getting pressured at historic levels, we'd bring that up and the whole forum told us it was just an excuse for a ****** QB.

But now it's ok to use Cutler's receivers against him to pretend Luck is already elite instead of potentially elite at some point in the future?

Will Andrew Luck be better than average in the future? Probably. I definitely think he will. I certainly never said the Colts should already move on. That would be a stupid thing to do. But is he some elite QB right now the way the guy I quoted was strongly hinting at? lolno. Right now he and Cutler are both in that traffic jam at the middle of the pack in the QB rankings.

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Oh, I knew you weren't really insane like that. The Colts fans on this board are way more reasonable than the meatballs I know in real life.
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I don't get your point though. Labeling him "elite" or calling him overrated really doesn't do much.

Are you insinuating that he's just not good enough to lead this Colts team on a playoff run? He undoubtedly is. He's shown the ability to lead his teams to wins against the best teams in the league. Whether he does or not is a different story.

It's really not worth ranking him right now. It's not worth ranking anyone right now. Or comparing him to Cutler. There are 12 QBs still playing. Let's see what they do in the biggest games of the season.

Luck played some damn poor games this year - which wasn't what we expected. He also had some terrific performances which got a little hype but nothing crazy. You're right, his numbers weren't THAT good. But none of that matters today - that's the beauty of this game.
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Last year it was Taber.
The year before, YFS for getting banned.
The year before, it was FutureScout.
Every year, it is Vikes.

Historically terrible posters recently have been starting a lot of threads on Wildcard weekend and aren't the popular picks to ruin the forum that year. That might be the case again this year.

And who else has been racist this year, AND homophobic?
And ignorant?
And jerked off to ACL injuries, ON Youtube.

There is nobody who has a resume anywhere near what J-Mike has.

Is J Mike capable of putting together a 4-week run like Taber or Futurescout or Vikes have?

I think it's very possible.

Watch out for J Mike.

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Last year it was Taber.
The year before, YFS for getting banned.
The year before, it was FutureScout.
Every year, it is Vikes.

Historically terrible posters recently have been starting a lot of threads on Wildcard weekend and aren't the popular picks to ruin the forum that year. That might be the case again this year.

And who else has been racist this year, AND homophobic?
And ignorant?
And jerked off to ACL injuries, ON Youtube.

There is nobody who has a resume anywhere near what J-Mike has.

Is J Mike capable of putting together a 4-week run like Taber or Futurescout or Vikes have?

I think it's very possible.

Watch out for J Mike.

He is my lock of the day today vs the good posters of SWDC.

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the defense ranks where again?
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the defense ranks where again?
I think 21st?
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Same. He asked how long he'd get suspended if he posted it. I told him I'd post it if he didn't.
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Luck: 60.2% completion, 6.7 YPA, 87.0 QBR
Cutler: 63.1% completion, 7.4 YPA, 89.2 QBR

People around here keep pretending that his possible future self is what he is right now. In reality, average QB is average at the moment.
Lol this is about as terrible as the alex smith and eli manning comparison. That says far more about Cutle than it does about luck at this point.

Edit should have read the whole thing. I agree with you. Im
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Same. He asked how long he'd get suspended if he posted it. I told him I'd post it if he didn't.
Perhaps MS has sucked it for long enough. It may be time for someone else to step up to the plate.
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this troll thread is great but it's clear that the Pats' Receivers thread is better and more productive.
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Meh, it was never as good after it got to that recent point. He had a good run but at this point it was just sad.
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Lol this is about as terrible as the alex smith and eli manning comparison. That says far more about Cutle than it does about luck at this point.

Edit should have read the whole thing. I agree with you. Im
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I actually miss read that too. I'm inclined to agree with him a little as well. I think Luck is above average but not elite. He is not as good as some people act like he is at present.
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I gotta admit, the talk of "But the Colts have Luck, they can beat anybody" just doesn't sit well with me...at this point in his career.
He is getting there, but stop acting like he's a top 5 QB in the league RIGHT NOW. He isn't, not even close really.

Now for the Colts, I just don't see them going on a run like that. The offense isn't much to strike fear, and the defense played inconsistent it seems.
Now talk about some of their victories, for instance Denver, I just don't see them being able to go into Denver and win. Going into New England could be different as I feel they would match up better, but I still don't like their chances that much.

Then again, I didn't like Baltimore's chances either. Baltimore was a freakin crazy run last year, like the Giants.
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Luck has been a little up and down but the thing that stands out for me is victories against Denver, Seattle and San Francisco.
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That's the key. Anyone comparing QBs using stats to make their case probably don't know a ton about football.
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Eh, I doubt it. Luck has a very bright future, especially if somebody like DaRick Rogers steps up next year, but it's not his time yet.
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They certainly are capable of beating the chiefs and I hate to say it, New England also. Not sure if that would qualify them as far as surprising anyone.

Edit. They would be at Denver in the second rod unless the chargers were to win.

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I gotta admit, the talk of "But the Colts have Luck, they can beat anybody" just doesn't sit well with me...at this point in his career.
He is getting there, but stop acting like he's a top 5 QB in the league RIGHT NOW. He isn't, not even close really.
Actually, he's very close. He's proven he can adjust to only having 1 or 2 reliable receiving options rather than 3 or 4. And the 1 or 2 and 3 or 4 aren't even that great.
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If you look at Luck's production from the last 14 Quarters (pretty much from about half time in the Cincinatti game when Pep Hamilton decided to start playing a modern NFL offense instead of the Stanford Offense from 4 years ago) it is actually pretty good.

The equivalent of 267 yards a game, 8 TDs, only 1 turnover, 68% completion rate.
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In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.
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well, I am pretty surprised right now so I guess you'd have to say yes!
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