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Troy Niklas is a grown ass man.

Cyrus Kouandjio looks the part but tape says otherwise for me.

Teddy comes in with a very solid 214lbs which is heavier than Manziel but he's 3 inches taller. Manziel basically the same size as Russell Wilson.

ASJ dropped 20lbs from the season which will hopefully add to his explosiveness because for me he looked like he had no burst last year.

Jace Amaro has pretty small hands but that didn't correlate to too many drops throughout the season
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For a relatively small guy, Manziel has some big hands. Almost 10'', Teddy just a shade over 9'' which is fine
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Kelvin Benjamin coming in at 6'5 240lbs. Mike Evans 6'4 231lbs. I like Evans a whole lot more but that is some serious size for Benjamin
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Kelvin Benjamin coming in at 6'5 240lbs. Mike Evans 6'4 231lbs. I like Evans a whole lot more but that is some serious size for Benjamin
I was sort of joking in another thread about converting Benjamin to TE, but it's not like he couldn't grow into one(255-260#) in a couple years.
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I was sort of joking in another thread about converting Benjamin to TE, but it's not like he couldn't grow into one(255-260#) in a couple years.
I don't know if he plays tough enough. He could be used in similar ways to some of the moves TEs around the league, but he is not a guy who I see growing into any kind of a blocker. He stirkes me as a guy who is most comfortable playing on the boundary and winning by being the bigger guy
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Manziel comes in at under six foot. He is slightly bigger than Wilson.
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Bortles is a Big Ben clone 6'5 232 lbs
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Does anyone have a link to these measurements?
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Hyde: 5-11 7/8, 230
Hill: 6-0 5/8, 233
Carey: 5-9 3/8, 207
Mason: 5-8 1/2, 207
Sankey: 5-9 1/2, 209
Williams: 5-11 3/8, 230
West 5-9 1/4, 225

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Bridgewater's measurements are very similar to Geno Smith and RG3. I'm not just saying that because they're all 3 black QBs. Simply because they all 3 hand similar height, weight and hand size.
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Kelvin Benjamin: 6-5 240

Wow. 40 time will be huge for him.
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TE group is just huge this year. Dwarfs last year's crop.

OL group is incredible. The prospects in the 15 to 50 range have great measurables. Not inconceivable that the best in the class will eventually be picked in this range. In fact the size dimensions for the late first early second group looks like a top 15 type dimensions in normal years. Several 35"+ arm lengths.
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Wow. 40 time will be huge for him.
I'm cool with a 4.6 or under, his intangibles will make up for it.
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Kelvin Benjamin coming in at 6'5 240lbs. Mike Evans 6'4 231lbs. I like Evans a whole lot more but that is some serious size for Benjamin
This makes Big Ben happy.
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Benjamin weighing 240 is alarming for me. There's no way that was his goal weight.
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240 has to be creatine weight for Benjamin to look big and chiseled and offset how slow hes going to run

Still pure beast of size, all eyes on him for the 40
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Manziel measuring under 6' would be a lot more entertaining if my boy Russ hadnt just won the SB
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Still pure beast of size, all eyes on him for the 40
I don't look at it that way. His goal probably wasn't to put on weight. It was probably definition and to get into the 235 range in order to maximize his 40.

I will say though, if he runs a 4.52 or something I'm not going to care about the 240.

But if he clocks 4.67 or something, then it's fair to criticize how hard he trained since the Nat'l Championship game.
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As for the rest, two things on TB.

First, he went on the RGIII program and got up to 214. That's fantastic for him. Plus, I'm pleasantly surprised he measured in over 6-2. Good for him there.

HOWEVER, as Polian just mentioned, that might not be his playing weight (may be added weight for this weigh-in). I personally don't care that much, but NFL teams aren't going to be fooled with added weight.

ALSO, the issue with TB's size has always been how thin his ankles and wrists are - not his overall weight.

DAT at 174 confirms to me that he's trying to get under 4.30.

And the group of OL and TE have me very excited as a Seahawks fan.
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So basically Manziel is 6ft (as expected) with big hands. No news there.

Teddy at a fine ht of 6-2 1/8.
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I'm also surprised Bortles is 6'5. He always looked 6'3 to me. That's going to help with the Roethlisberger comparisons which honestly I don't see
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The thing about Bortles is that with interviews and him throwing live, he could essentially lock up being the number one pick if the Texans like him enough.

Manziel's missing out on an opportunity. And he just basically blamed his agent for advising him not to throw in Indy. Said he's competitive BUT he was advised against it by his agent.
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Bridgewater's measurements are very similar to Geno Smith and RG3. I'm not just saying that because they're all 3 black QBs. Simply because they all 3 hand similar height, weight and hand size.
Wtf?? Why would you be saying that because they are black?
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So basically Manziel is 6ft (as expected) with big hands. No news there.

Teddy at a fine ht of 6-2 1/8.
News flash: He was billed at 6'1", 210-215 pounds all season.
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