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Old 03-21-2014, 09:59 AM    (permalink
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Also, with IT support, the problem is usually them getting horrible misinformation from the EU reporting/describing the problem.
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Also, with IT support, the problem is usually them getting horrible misinformation from the EU reporting/describing the problem.
I'm sorry, but that is BS for most big companies. They can remote in now via Bogmar or whatever. That's not to say that EUs describe things well, they don't, but when you can just easily remote in and get a look at the problem for yourself, insisting on discussing it for half an hour is 100% on the IT guy.
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Theres an IT guy that sits near me at work who doubles down as a recruiter haha.

Half the time he's either calling ppl up as a recruiter or talking to his family/wife.

He works on actual IT stuff for like 1 hour a day.
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I hope so too. What is it about the BA's you work with that makes you say that? Just curious
I work in military logistics. More specifically, my organization creates and maintains logistics applications. Our BAs are mostly there to help create requirements packages whenever an application needs to be created, updated, or fixed. Unfortunately, very few of them actually have any knowledge of how our systems work so they are very unhelpful. I've gotten to the point where I just create the package myself because it takes less time than teaching my systems to the BA.

For the people who don't know how to do this, they get a BA to take the information and input into our system in a more technical format. Basically they become high paid secretaries.
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do I trust a school district that wants you to fax or mail your cover letter and resume and credentials to them and don't have anything online? like no applications via email or any online applications
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So does anyone have any good advice on the best way to search for jobs in another city? Say that some guy hypothetically was serious about moving from Nashville to Los Angeles.

What do?
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do I trust a school district that wants you to fax or mail your cover letter and resume and credentials to them and don't have anything online? like no applications via email or any online applications
yes. it's a school district, not a university.
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School districts are poorly run. You're seeing the evidence of that.
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School districts are poorly run have varying amounts of money/pressures for priority. You're seeing the evidence of that.
slightly fixed. i know in denver, we've been really busy imposing idiotic rules on school districts who are hell bent on doing idiotic things. so like, no one is actually winning, and things that should be really easy to fix aren't being fixed.
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slightly fixed. i know in denver, we've been really busy imposing idiotic rules on school districts who are hell bent on doing idiotic things. so like, no one is actually winning, and things that should be really easy to fix aren't being fixed.
That's just about everywhere, though. They're poorly run. How/why they're poorly run is a different conversation.
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So does anyone have any good advice on the best way to search for jobs in another city? Say that some guy hypothetically was serious about moving from Nashville to Los Angeles.

What do?
Apply in advance and try your damndest to set up multiple interviews in one week, then make a trip out of it; couch surf if you have to to save moneys. if you're unemployed, set up one of the crowd sourced opps or stay with a friend, there is plenty of room in LA.

in other news, my job still makes me feel like clawing my eyes out but i have an interview lined up (and have phone interviewed twice already) with a start-up that's confirmed to me that they'll be issuing an IPO within a year or two, so basically my situation is horrendous but i own a lottery ticket.
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When a job posting says...knowing blank is an asset, that just means you better know that **** or there's no way you're getting this job, right?
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Got my offer letter today. Gonna put in my 2 weeks this friday.

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When a job posting says...knowing blank is an asset, that just means you better know that **** or there's no way you're getting this job, right?
depends on the job and the requirement, ie. you better know the MS Office suite, or a particular coding if it's a dev job, but you don't necessarily need to know like Salesforce back and forth if it's a marketing job. Each industry has certain requirements.
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Theres an IT guy that sits near me at work who doubles down as a recruiter haha.

Half the time he's either calling ppl up as a recruiter or talking to his family/wife.

He works on actual IT stuff for like 1 hour a day.
Well i work at a bank and we don't outsource anything so our IT department consists of two bosses and 7 employees and we work all damn day.
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Got asked today during my mid-term meeting with a teacher what I wanted to do when I graduate. Apparently telling them a city you want to live in and nothing else is a way to not go about determining your future.
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Got asked today during my mid-term meeting with a teacher what I wanted to do when I graduate. Apparently telling them a city you want to live in and nothing else is a way to not go about determining your future.
Screw that. For some people (myself included) location is much more important than the actual job.
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Screw that. For some people (myself included) location is much more important than the actual job.
This college is so conservative and small-minded that I should have seen it coming. Plus, there are literally no jobs anywhere near here, so going to a place with a hell of a lot of more opportunities should be a good thing.
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So my old teacher is now head of the school board IT department and they have a job opening which im in no way qualified for but i applied anyway just to get the interview experience. I actually emailed him and told him i wasn't applying but to think of me when i do get my certs and he told me to apply anyway just to go meet everyone and get a feel for everything that they do so i'm doing that.
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So my old teacher is now head of the school board IT department and they have a job opening which im in no way qualified for but i applied anyway just to get the interview experience. I actually emailed him and told him i wasn't applying but to think of me when i do get my certs and he told me to apply anyway just to go meet everyone and get a feel for everything that they do so i'm doing that.
This pretty much goes with everything I am actually taught about the interview process.... Its actually more about your personality rather than your qualities. Most people who apply meet the requirements, and the interviews are more about if you can fit in rather then whose the most qualified.

Or is this something different then what you guys have experienced?
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This pretty much goes with everything I am actually taught about the interview process.... Its actually more about your personality rather than your qualities. Most people who apply meet the requirements, and the interviews are more about if you can fit in rather then whose the most qualified.

Or is this something different then what you guys have experienced?
I've never been the most qualified anywhere ever. I'm just really good at interviews for whatever reason. Only one time did I not get a job i interviewed for. But to answer your question yeah that's spot on.
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If you are young and ambitious, what you will be learning/doing should be way more important than where you have to live for a couple of years. That's just fact. It's not to say that prioritizing where to live over the work you will be doing is wrong, you can still make a good living and will probably be happy, but it is definitely not the best way to launch a career if that is important to you.
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This pretty much goes with everything I am actually taught about the interview process.... Its actually more about your personality rather than your qualities. Most people who apply meet the requirements, and the interviews are more about if you can fit in rather then whose the most qualified.

Or is this something different then what you guys have experienced?
It depends on the role. Personality is always very important, but there are tons of people I have had great conversation with that just couldn't hack it from a skills perspective. Not everyone's resume is honest...just because you say you have 'x' experience doesn't make it so....and HR sometimes can't ask specific enough questions.
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