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Old 03-04-2014, 01:40 PM    (permalink
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Houston Texans (2-14) - Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
St. Louis Rams f/WAS (3-13) - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12) - Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
Cleveland Browns (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Khalil Mack, LB, Buffalo
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-12) - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1) - Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Eric Ebron, TE, UNC
Detroit Lions (7-9) - Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
Tennessee Titans (7-9) - Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA
New York Giants (7-9) - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
St. Louis Rams (7-9) - Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
Chicago Bears (8-8) - Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8) - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
Dallas Cowboys (8-8) - Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville
Baltimore Ravens (8-8) - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State
New York Jets (8-8) - Marquise Lee, WR, USC
Miami Dolphins (8-8) - Zach Martin, OL, Notre Dame
Arizona Cardinals (10-5) - Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn
Green Bay Packers (8-7-1) - CJ Mosley, LB, Alabama
Philadelphia Eagles (10-6) - Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
Kansas City Chiefs (11-5) - Odell Beckham Jr, WR, LSU
Cincinnati Bengals (11-5) - Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
San Diego Chargers (9-7) - Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
Cleveland Browns f/IND (11-5) - Ryan Shazier, LB, The Ohio State
New Orleans Saints (11-5) - Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
Carolina Panthers (12-4) - Kelvin Benjamin, WR, FSU
New England Patriots (12-4) - Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
San Francisco 49ers (12-4) - Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
Denver Broncos (13-3) - RaShede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
Seattle Seahawks (13-3) - Stephon Tuitt, DL, Notre Dame

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Now that the 49ers have signed Anquan Boldin to a two year deal, it seems a bit less likely they are going to draft a wide receiver in the first round.
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Too good to be true. Well, actually, I'm on the fence about Shazier's future prospects. If Horton were still the coordinator, I'd say it's a perfect fit, with Pettine, I'm not so sure. But I still think Borland will be the best ILB in this class in 2-3yrs.
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Now that the 49ers have signed Anquan Boldin to a two year deal, it seems a bit less likely they are going to draft a wide receiver in the first round.
Cooks offers a different dimension than Crabtree and Boldin do. Picture those two with Cooks and Davis inside. DC's will have headaches.

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Too good to be true. Well, actually, I'm on the fence about Shazier's future prospects. If Horton were still the coordinator, I'd say it's a perfect fit, with Pettine, I'm not so sure. But I still think Borland will be the best ILB in this class in 2-3yrs.
Well, I think the Jags go Clowney if he's there (and can't trade) based on BPA meeting need, and not being completely sold on a QB. Just the vibe I'm getting from them. They'd still have a shot at getting Garoppolo in 2, possibly Carr.
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Shazier doesn't really seem to fit what we're doing on defense. Don't you think Cooks/Benjamin would be the better selection, or even Yankey/Richardson?
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Shazier doesn't really seem to fit what we're doing on defense. Don't you think Cooks/Benjamin would be the better selection, or even Yankey/Richardson?
There's such a gaping hole at ILB now that I think taking Shazier or even Borland as BL mentioned trumps all of those guys. Each one is intriguing in their own right, but you can find depth at both OL and WR later on. ILB, not so much.

I'm not concerned about Shazier's size, either. He bulked up for the combine, and I'd expect him to stay about that size. I know it's still smaller than most ILB's, and if you can pair him with a more traditional ILB-size guy, it would be great. But the Browns really struggled going side to side and in coverage over the middle. Shazier will help that quite a bit. Though again, if you want a more typical 3-4 ILB player, take Borland and it still works out great.
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dont see van noy as a first rounder at this point and OLB isnt a need for the saints
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I'm not a fan of taking Manziel.
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Unless Ealy can stand up and play LB too then I can't see Ealy as the pick.
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dont see van noy as a first rounder at this point and OLB isnt a need for the saints
I still think Van Noy could still be a first rounder on some boards because he's commonly seen as a safe, jack-of-all-trades pick, and the pass rushers this year are a bit weak IMO. Once you get past Clowney, Mack and Barr, there's quite a few question marks. I do think the Saints could use someone opposite Gallette, too. I think he even shows potential as an ILB as well in a 3-4. Needs to work on shedding blocks a bit better, but that's why he's a late first/early second round guy.

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Sorry, but with the reports coming out of Cleveland and Oakland, I have an easy time letting them pass on him. However, at 8, I can't imagine Minnesota letting him slip past.

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Unless Ealy can stand up and play LB too then I can't see Ealy as the pick.
With MJ going in free agency, I felt like this was a value pick. Could see Shazier or Verrett, but the DE class this year isn't that great IMO. In fact, Ealy will likely go before this point, I just have a tough time seeing where when I don't mock trades.
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Saints have 1 starting S and 1 starting CB. We need DB's
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Didn't see one worth that pick. Could reach on Ward at S I suppose, or add another tweener in Roby. Besides, you'll probably add at least one or the other in FA, and CB is deep.
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Switch Lee and Beckham Jr around. I have a good feeling the Jets may look at Beckham Jr if the cards fall like that.
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I understand Maziel reaching 8, i just hope that the Vikes choose to pass on him, too. Right now my personal preference is a guy like Donald, Gilbert, Dennard there.
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Do you think Armano is a legitimate first round talent? I dont see it, but am interested in your take on him.
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Ebron makes sense for the Bills and is a guy I would love to see in Buffalo, not sure I see them going TE with Evans, Barr and Lewan on the board, they signed T. Moeki, they have C. Gragg who is very similar in style to Ebron, and if they bring Chandler back, I dont see them going TE, if they dont bring Chandler back, I think the odds increase they could go with a TE in the draft.

I believe they will go BPA with the pick, and am not sure Ebron is it for them. I would love it, but I am not sure Marrone and Co. value TE's as much as others do.

I am big on KVN, he has the instincts and feel for the game IMO that can not be coached, I hope the Bills somehow are able to land him in the second round, IMO he is a top 20 caliber player. The best 4 teams BYU played against last year, were KVN's best 4 games, not a coincidence as I see it, especially considering teams game planned for him and he was the only NFL talent on that defense.

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Switch Lee and Beckham Jr around. I have a good feeling the Jets may look at Beckham Jr if the cards fall like that.
Fair enough. After Watkins and Evans, I feel like the next six WR's or so can be ranked in just about any way based on team.

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I can understand that, too. Hope it works out for you guys.
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Do you think Armano is a legitimate first round talent? I dont see it, but am interested in your take on him.
He's one of those guys that I think will have quite the range on many boards. For someone like the Pats, I think he is a first rounder because he can fill that H-Back role. For someone that runs a more traditional offense or prefers TE's who can block, I'd expect him to be a 2nd or maybe 3rd rounder. But hey, it's the draft. You go and get the guys that fit your system.

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Ebron makes sense for the Bills and is a guy I would love to see in Buffalo, not sure I see them going TE with Evans, Barr and Lewan on the board, they signed T. Moeki, they have C. Gragg who is very similar in style to Ebron, and if they bring Chandler back, I dont see them going TE, if they dont bring Chandler back, I think the odds increase they could go with a TE in the draft.

I believe they will go BPA with the pick, and am not sure Ebron is it for them. I would love it, but I am not sure Marrone and Co. value TE's as much as others do.

I am big on KVN, he has the instincts and feel for the game IMO that can not be coached, I hope the Bills somehow are able to land him in the second round, IMO he is a top 20 caliber player. The best 4 teams BYU played against last year, were KVN's best 4 games, not a coincidence as I see it, especially considering teams game planned for him and he was the only NFL talent on that defense.

Thats my .02, enjoy :)
Yeah I did look at that with the Bills since Ebron has been a popular pick for them. But he pairs well with Chandler, and you can't rely on Moeaki. Cragg's really the one that can throw that pick off. If they like him a lot, they won't go Ebron. However, Ebron as a prospect is way beyond Cragg. BPA is very likely for them, but it could very well end up with Ebron as the BPA lol.

I'm with you on KVN. He's one of those guys going under the radar because he's not a standout athlete, but he's a full fledged football player who doesn't lack in athleticism either. He's a very safe pick with solid upside as a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 SLB.

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I thought Baltimore might be interested in a cornerback a while ago when I thought Jimmy Smith was a free agent after this season but he's not and that changes a lot. They have too many other pressing needs to go in that direction early on.
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Now that the 49ers have signed Anquan Boldin to a two year deal, it seems a bit less likely they are going to draft a wide receiver in the first round.
I doubt. Who does 49ers have after Cratree and Patton ? Ain't got ****.. I would like us to draft a wide out in 1st or 2nd at least.
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I doubt. Who does 49ers have after Cratree and Patton ? Ain't got ****.. I would like us to draft a wide out in 1st or 2nd at least.
Agreed. Cooks would be a nice pick at 30. He would give the 49ers the type of receiver they don't currently have on their roster.
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I thought Baltimore might be interested in a cornerback a while ago when I thought Jimmy Smith was a free agent after this season but he's not and that changes a lot. They have too many other pressing needs to go in that direction early on.
I went BPA for Ravens. It's what they do, and adding CB depth is never a bad thing. Plus Gilbert profiles to S as well.
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I went BPA for Ravens. It's what they do, and adding CB depth is never a bad thing. Plus Gilbert profiles to S as well.
Ozzie doesn't just take the best player available regardless of need though. Pretty much all of the guys he takes early on play at an area where Baltimore needs help. Taking him as a free safety is a different conversation but I don't think they would go with a conversion project early on nor do I think they want to take another safety in the first round after just doing that with Elam last year.
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dont see van noy as a first rounder at this point and OLB isnt a need for the saints
Yeah, a month ago I would have said this was a grweat pick. Now, I see the bigger need being CB.
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The Saints would take Brandin Cooks here. Some of my fellow Saints fans will say CB/S, which are both needs. But I doubt they will be needs come draft time. Rafael Bush has already been tendered and is expected back. And I would not be surprised to see Jenkins return. I definitely think they'll target a CB in free agency.
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