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View Poll Results: Who is the best mlb?
Ray Lewis 23 13.14%
Brian Urlacher 104 59.43%
Zach Thomas 9 5.14%
Al Wilson 3 1.71%
Mike Peterson 3 1.71%
Jonathan Vilma 14 8.00%
London Fletcher 2 1.14%
Demeco Ryans 14 8.00%
Lofa Tatupu 3 1.71%
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Old 04-08-2007, 12:56 AM    (permalink
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Oh that part. Yeah I know that urlacher is the best MLB in the game right now. I know that and I know that he is ahead of Thomas in his game because he can do some things that Thomas can't match up to, but I don't really think that he is way way better. Just he is way better then him.
LOL, WTF man.
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The lack of respect that Zach Thomas gets is totally ridiculous. Im not talking about here, but for everywhere. No, he's not the best at his position, but it's crazy to think that that Urlacher is well beyond ahead of him.
You tried to negative rep me for picking Urlacher and Ray over Thomas? LMAO! God this thread is turning into a homer thread....


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Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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lol ace didnt bigdawg just tell you neg repping me with red square doesnt do anything to me...and yeah im a "dumb@ss" for thinking urlacher was way way better than thomas, he was just way better.
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come on BigDawg, u had to know something like that was coming when u start spreading rediculous propaganda like that Urlacher or Ray Lewis better than Zach Thomas, snap back to reality
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come on BigDawg, u had to know something like that was coming when u start spreading rediculous propaganda like that Urlacher or Ray Lewis better than Zach Thomas, snap back to reality
God what was I thinking?!!??? I must have zoned out at the greatness of Zach Thomas. I mean all those Defensive Player of the Years he's won and the Super Bowl he was MVP of..................wait a minute! :p
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You tried to negative rep me for picking Urlacher and Ray over Thomas? LMAO! God this thread is turning into a homer thread....


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But he positive repped me :(

Seriously, Thomas is underrated, and he is not that far from Urlacher in ranking. Some of you act as if Urlacher is the runaway winner like Champ at CB, but there's a lot of different guys that have different skillsets. They all have flaws and make mistakes at about the same rate, so you can't say Urlacher is way better than Lewis or Thomas.
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But he positive repped me :(

Seriously, Thomas is underrated, and he is not that far from Urlacher in ranking. Some of you act as if Urlacher is the runaway winner like Champ at CB, but there's a lot of different guys that have different skillsets. They all have flaws and make mistakes at about the same rate, so you can't say Urlacher is way better than Lewis or Thomas.
urlacher n lewis future hall of famers', thomas forgotten after he retires.
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But he positive repped me :(

Seriously, Thomas is underrated, and he is not that far from Urlacher in ranking. Some of you act as if Urlacher is the runaway winner like Champ at CB, but there's a lot of different guys that have different skillsets. They all have flaws and make mistakes at about the same rate, so you can't say Urlacher is way better than Lewis or Thomas.
Zach Thomas plays with heart and I give him that but sorry I don't see how he's even in the top tier discussion. And besides it seems that every year there is a better MLB that emerges and this year will probably be no different. But you have to admit that in the last few years its been Urlacher and Lewis at the top, others come close but they are the standard.
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So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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And besides it seems that every year there is a better MLB that emerges and this year will probably be no different.
You are right, this is the year of the RUUD
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Or Bart Scott. :D
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How the hell does DeMeco Ryans have more votes than Vilma? Granted; he's good and he had a great rookie year but there's no way he's better than Vilma.
How is he not? I certainly think Demeco is better than Vilma.
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How is he not? I certainly think Demeco is better than Vilma.
Why don't we see what Ryans does in year 2 before declare him a Hall of Famer okay?
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I agree with you 100%. He was very overrated at the beginning of his career but he still is likely the best ILB, although you can always make arguments for guys like Donnie Edwards and Ray Lewis.
Donnie Edwards is not the player he once was. He is still great against the pass, but as far as tackling goes he's mainly a catcher, he falls back with the runner, and gets the back about 5 yards past the LOS.
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Why don't we see what Ryans does in year 2 before declare him a Hall of Famer okay?
I'm just saying, what we can compare between the two shows that Ryans is better.
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I'm just saying, what we can compare between the two shows that Ryans is better.
I would love to see what you are comparing that favors Ryan? I mean Vilma has been in the league 3 years and is a pretty good linebacker. Not to mention that the Texans aren't necessarily a good team and their defense is on the field a lot longer then most defenses so their players numbers have to be taken with a grain of salt. Ryans had a great rookie campaign no doubt, but lets see what he does after this year before we say he's better then anybody, especially someone who has played in every game the past 3 years and has been to the playoffs.
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i would replace fletcher with merrimum forget about the steriods, you can't deny he's a good backer.
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i would replace fletcher with merrimum forget about the steriods, you can't deny he's a good backer.
This is why I have ignored all of your comments. Merriman is an OLB, and this is a discussion on MLBs. Jeez! You also spelled his name completely wrong. Jeez!
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i forgot it was mlb my bad.... i said backer, not mlb so calm down and you spelt his name wrong too, its merriman. Jeez!
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I would love to see what you are comparing that favors Ryan? I mean Vilma has been in the league 3 years and is a pretty good linebacker. Not to mention that the Texans aren't necessarily a good team and their defense is on the field a lot longer then most defenses so their players numbers have to be taken with a grain of salt. Ryans had a great rookie campaign no doubt, but lets see what he does after this year before we say he's better then anybody, especially someone who has played in every game the past 3 years and has been to the playoffs.
Well, what we do have to go on is how Demeco played this season. So far, Vilma has not had a season to match Demeco's. The Texans have a bad defense because Demeco and Dunta are pretty much our only playmakers. Mario was a bit, but not a force all season. Demeco was on the field a lot, but he didn't wear down, he was almost always first to the ball carrier. Since the rest of the defense was so awful, he didn't have the benefit of getting to blitz a qb who was frustrated and behind in points, we just got run against a ton. So he missed out on certain opportunities as well being on a bad defense and being on the field as much as he was. Also Demeco had to sort through a ton of trash because our DT's were pretty awful all year. I do really like Vilma, and he and Demeco are similar players, "undersized LB's" with great instincts, but I think Demeco is superior.
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i forgot it was mlb my bad.... i said backer, not mlb so calm down and you spelt his name wrong too, its merriman. Jeez!
Haha typo my bad
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This is hands down Urlacher
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Donnie Edwards is not the player he once was. He is still great against the pass, but as far as tackling goes he's mainly a catcher, he falls back with the runner, and gets the back about 5 yards past the LOS.
That's true but I think you can still argue that he's one of the best in the game. His role in San Diego was mostly to help out against the pass and assisst in chasing down runs to the outside that weren't stopped by the big OLBs.
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Ray Lewis, because he didn't fall apart in the Super Bowl...

Nah, I'm just playing (just a joke, bearsfan_51...). It's definitely Urlacher right now, although Lewis gets the nod for recent times (2000-today, or so).
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Ray Lewis, because he didn't fall apart in the Super Bowl...
I'm reminded of a song by this statement, ah yes "Sad but True" it SO applies. :D
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Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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Brian Urlacher.. I pray this isn't close.
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