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View Poll Results: 2014 Bucs Record
10+ wins (Kansas City like turnaround) 10 23.26%
9-6 Wins 24 55.81%
5-2 Wins 6 13.95%
Top 5 Draft selection next year 3 6.98%
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:40 PM    (permalink
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Not saying they're up for the super bowl, but this roster has young studs popping up all over the place.

Defense- Gerald McCoy is the best interior Dlineman in the league. Right next to him is Micheal Johnson who has a boatload of pass rushing potential. And the back 7 you have LaVonte David, Alteraun Verner, Dashon Goldson, and rising star Mark Barron.

Offense- McCown and Glennon. Douglas Martin in the backfield. Vincent Jackson had 80 receptions 1200+ yards last year with defenses giving him all the attention, now you add Mike Evans. Plus Austin Seferian - Jenkins at TE.

My outlook is: The defense alone being coached by Frazier & Smith will lead to .500 . If Josh McCown takes a Rich Gannon step this year this team is playoff bound. The only unit questionable unit on this team is the offensive line but we all know Smith has a history of neglecting the offensive line
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I would consider QB a questionable unit... especially with a first-time NFL coach in Tedford.

McCown had a special run last year, but to think he's going to come out of Trestmen's scheme (and one of the best offenses in the league from line to receivers to RB) and produce at that level is a little foolish. He's been a career backup for a reason.

It will likely come down to QB play, and I'm not confident he'll be that good.
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I would label it 2-5, or 6-9.
Not 9-6, or 5-2.

Who lists it backwards?

I mean "Think of a number between 1 & 100" is what we say.
Not "Think of a number between 100 & 1".

I got em at 8-8 this year, but if they sweep the Cam Newtons, they can go 9-7.
I was hoping these guys would suck this year since my Packers go down there and I want a 5-10 Bucs team, the week before Christmas, to offer all their seats to Cheeseheads swarming South for Christmas/Winter.
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I think those players are very tall.
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They spent to much in FA that usually means they will underachieve. I am not a fan of McCown. He played in a very friendly QB system under Trestman and they were loaded with weapons and had at least a decent OL.

9-7 I would say be best cast scenario for them at worst they will go 5-11. I think the divison is too tough with New Orleans and Carolina at the top and Atlanta should improve with the additions they have made.
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I don't like counting on rookie receivers. I'm not too high on either of the QBs. I also dont care for the passrushers. I think the Bucs are the 4th best team in the division but only because the other 3 are really strong. I think they win 6 to 8 games. I really like Lovie for their longterm future.
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Depends how the defense plays. Lavonte David and Gerald McCoy are two of the best defensive players in the entire NFL and the rest of the unit has plenty of talent too. If the defense plays well, the team will win. If it doesn't, we will have a top 10 pick.
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And 6-9 wins is a pretty large gap. With 6 wins you could be picking in the top 10. With 9, you could go on to win the Super Bowl...
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If the Bucs can score 24-28 ppg, they'll win at least 9 games.

I believe in McNown and with those jumbo WRs, damn. A QB's best friend is a massive WR target downfield.

I think the Bucs are primed to surprise in 2014.

The problem is the NFCS isn't that far behind the NFCW as the best division in the NFL.
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When the Bucs suck again do you go back to liking the Eagles?
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The Bucs are a much improved team with a lot of upside for sure

But you have to factor in they play in a tough division with New Orleans, Carolina and Atlanta (who will also be much better)

They also play teams like the Packers, Rams, Ravens, Lions plus the Steelers and Bears who will be better and

Tampa also has Minnesota, Cleveland and Washington who may not have done well last year but have quality new coaches in the building. These teams should be better.

The Bucs have potential, but they are going to have to work for their wins this season.
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Why again did they get rid of Revis? They could have 3 of the best defensive players in the NFL
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So they could spend the money elsewhere.
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The Bucs do have nice collection of talent. I don't think its unrealistic to expect 9+ wins.
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I'm thinking 7 or 8 wins. Saints will win that division and I also see ATL bouncing back after a good draft and healthy Julio Jones
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I like Lovie Smith and the offensive combo of McCown/Jackson/James and Doug Martin. I think ASJ will be a good instant impact TE too. I don't think that McCown and that defense are good enough to be consistently good for 16 games though. 6-9 wins.
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Falcons 9-7
Bucs 8-8
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McCown takes the next step and leads the Bucs were they need to go...a top 3 picks so they can address their massive hole at QB.
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McCown takes the next step and leads the Bucs were they need to go...a top 3 picks so they can address their massive hole at QB.

A top 3 pick is a 5 win season or less.

Lovie Smith only had one 5 win season as a HC, and never has coached a team to that poor a record with the talent he has in TB.

Compare Lovie's best teams he had in Chicago to his current TB squad and I'd argue this team per man is better.

People are underestimating how good the Saints will be this year, but I could very easily see the Bucs in contention for a wildcard berth all year.

The problem is the wildcard in the NFC might have to win 11 games.

THe Bucs have an efficient vet QB, two huge WRs and a hopefully a healthy Doug Martin. The D will be top 10.

No way the Bucs win only 5 games.
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The Bucs have a career backup starting at QB, that alone can secure you only 5 wins. Plus I find Lovie and a good bit of that talent very over-rated. I'll be shocked if they aren't picking in the top 10.
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The Bucs have a career backup starting at QB, that alone can secure you only 5 wins. Plus I find Lovie and a good bit of that talent very over-rated. I'll be shocked if they aren't picking in the top 10.
This is true. The Texans had a pretty decent squad last year and a ****** QB and a few injuries gave them the number one pick. The Bucs are anything between the top pick and a ten-ish win team.
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