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Just popped in my head how in 2009 Mel Kiper went off on the Raiders for drafting Mike Mitchell. A no one that no one ever heard of, Kiper telling the world that the Raiders wasted a pick on this player. And not understanding how his words can cause someone else hardship in a new job setting.

And that's what it did. For Mitchell first years in the NFL he was the guy that Kiper said shouldn't have been drafted at all let alone in the second round. How the Raiders didn't know talent anymore. And Mitchell's play made people think Kiper was right all along. They didn't think maybe it was the team he was on, or the coaches that he had. He just didn't make a impact.

Then comes last year. Panthers sign him, around great defensive coaches and some really, really good talent. Mitchell's talent starts to show. Has a great year. And then signed by Pitt to a 5 million a year avg at 5 years 25 million this offseason.

And the hard hitting, 6-1 215 pound 4.4 running Mike Mitchell can really play with the big boys. And Kiper can shut his mouf. Got to love this story.
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Mel Kiper gets paid to give his opinions. Some fans still remember what he says years later. Job well done. People need to stop being jealous that he gets paid to watch football.
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Yeah, pretty much everyone laughed at the Raiders for the pick. I know alot of draftniks and armchair guys (myself included) had their eye on him because of his measureables. Noone thought he'd be an early round pick.

Good on Mitchell for making a decent career of it but let's not ignore the fact he's been with 3 teams in 6 seasons.
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I didn't laugh at it much. I thought he could easily warrant the pick.
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And Tom Brady proved tons of actual NFL scouts wrong. Yay.
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Mel Kiper gets paid to give his opinions. Some fans still remember what he says years later. Job well done. People need to stop being jealous that he gets paid to watch football.
I don't hate on Kiper at all. He has one of the greatest jobs in the world. But that day he went a little far with his opinions. And I just like the fact that Mitchell who on that day Kiper didn't think belonged in the NFL not only made it, but got that second contract that all players are looking for.

Also that Mitchell went on to be a big part of the second best D in 2013 and that a team with maybe the best defensive history in the league with maybe the best defensive cord ever gave him 25 million to play for them.

It's a feel good story to me. He made it.
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Yeah, pretty much everyone laughed at the Raiders for the pick. I know alot of draftniks and armchair guys (myself included) had their eye on him because of his measureables. Noone thought he'd be an early round pick.

Good on Mitchell for making a decent career of it but let's not ignore the fact he's been with 3 teams in 6 seasons.
The Panthers keep this dude if their books were in order, no way they could give him the 5 million a year he got from Pitt
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Kind of thought he was grossly overpaid by Pittsburgh but an NFL caliber player nonetheless.
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Just popped in my head how in 2009 Mel Kiper went off on the Raiders for drafting Mike Mitchell. A no one that no one ever heard of, Kiper telling the world that the Raiders wasted a pick on this player. And not understanding how his words can cause someone else hardship in a new job setting.

And that's what it did. For Mitchell first years in the NFL he was the guy that Kiper said shouldn't have been drafted at all let alone in the second round. How the Raiders didn't know talent anymore. And Mitchell's play made people think Kiper was right all along. They didn't think maybe it was the team he was on, or the coaches that he had. He just didn't make a impact.

Then comes last year. Panthers sign him, around great defensive coaches and some really, really good talent. Mitchell's talent starts to show. Has a great year. And then signed by Pitt to a 5 million a year avg at 5 years 25 million this offseason.

And the hard hitting, 6-1 215 pound 4.4 running Mike Mitchell can really play with the big boys. And Kiper can shut his mouf. Got to love this story.
Kiper was right, though. Mayock and McShay, too. That was a terrible pick. Even if Mike Mitchell goes to ten straight pro bowls, that's still a bad pick. You don't build a winner by spending your second round picks on guys who finally become worth a damn only after their rookie contract has expired.

You can't pin his failure on the team and coaches. He was a developmental prospect who just wasn't very good coming out of college. We all knew that. Giving him a new team and new coach wasn't going to make him any good in his first few years.

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Mitchell has been so-so in steelers camp....definitely blazing fast, but its a work in progress, its nice that he has the closing speed to make up for troys aggressiveness. Definitely a big hitter.

I heard the bears were going to take him in the second if the raiders didnt...dont know how true that is.
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I was going to say the 5 star linebacker that went to Ohio St and then transferred to Texas Tech. Not him obviously.

Another guy everyone (at least 6 1/2 rounds of draft picks) got wrong seems to be Jeff Janis of the Packers. Only has a couple of catches and is a project in that he's raw but he has home run ability. Not a lot of guys walking the streets at 6-3 220 with 4.35 speed.
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Kiper was wrong on the talent evaluation, but the Raiders could've gotten him much later. That is a bigger reason why the pick was and is bashed. The fact that they used such a high investment and he's not with them now is even a worse story.
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Actually, Kiper was correct. The Raiders should NOT have drafted him. Mitchell made no impact on their team, so he was either the wrong fit or wasn't experienced enough for that high of a pick.

The fact that he eventually (with the right coaching/system/experience level) grew into a decent player doesn't mean Mel was wrong. The guy was a wasted pick on the Raiders, which is exactly what Kiper said.
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Kill Kiper now. How dare he give his opinion and it turned out to be incorrect. What an assshole.
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