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Old 07-24-2006, 07:51 PM    (permalink
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Can't wait till Moss burns Surtain/Law. mmm
i cant wait till the raiders trade moss
but if he stays will make him pay
:roll: That almost makes sense, but no.
he ask to be trade to the falcons but they didnt want him
he said also ravens was and option
-last year
Asked to be traded? Kid, don't make crap up.
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Ty Law had 11 penalties last year, 8 of them being interference calls. For reference, the entire Seattle Seahawks secondary had a total of 17 penalties last year. His interceptions came at unimportant times (week 17, 3 against Buffalo) and almost all of the were gimmee's.

I went for Rolle and McAlister because I'm not too crazy about Gamble.
I also really like that duo, but McCalisters play dropped off quite a bit last season, but if he can return to form, their tandem dominates all.
was'nt he hurt?
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Can't wait till Moss burns Surtain/Law. mmm
i cant wait till the raiders trade moss
but if he stays will make him pay
:roll: That almost makes sense, but no.
he ask to be trade to the falcons but they didnt want him
he said also ravens was and option
But he didnt gt traded there, so now you get the pleasure of watching him burn you 2x a year.
dont be shock if he does get traded
Whatever you say. :roll:
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Can't wait till Moss burns Surtain/Law. mmm
i cant wait till the raiders trade moss
but if he stays will make him pay
:roll: That almost makes sense, but no.
he ask to be trade to the falcons but they didnt want him
he said also ravens was and option
-last year
Asked to be traded? Kid, don't make crap up.
by bad 2 yrs ago not last year
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:53 PM    (permalink
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Can't wait till Moss burns Surtain/Law. mmm
i cant wait till the raiders trade moss
but if he stays will make him pay
:roll: That almost makes sense, but no.
he ask to be trade to the falcons but they didnt want him
he said also ravens was and option
But he didnt gt traded there, so now you get the pleasure of watching him burn you 2x a year.
dont be shock if he does get traded
If you say so... Wait a minute, isn't he easily the best player on their offense? I think so, and if that is the case I would hold onto him, and definitely not trade him. When he was healthy he made Kerry Collins look good, and thats quite an achievement.
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Law and Surtain would only be considered a top-combo back in '03.
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Why aren't Lito Sheppard & Sheldon Brown on this? I'm not saying that they are the best in the NFL but they should definately be on the poll. They're at least better than Hall and Williams. (Williams hasn't played a single down in the NFL).
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Why aren't Lito Sheppard & Sheldon Brown on this? I'm not saying that they are the best in the NFL but they should definately be on the poll. They're at least better than Hall and Williams. (Williams hasn't played a single down in the NFL).
eagles and the cowboys both should have been on there but as soon as i post it so one comment sorry
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Why aren't Lito Sheppard & Sheldon Brown on this? I'm not saying that they are the best in the NFL but they should definately be on the poll. They're at least better than Hall and Williams. (Williams hasn't played a single down in the NFL).
They should be on the poll, but they definitely aren't the best considering how badly Lito blew last season.
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The idea of Law and Surtain being mentioned in the league's top cornerback tandems is absolutely laughable. Surtain played second fiddle to Sam Madison his entire career, then after he was traded to Kansas City, he got absolutely abused.

The signing of Law was one of the worst moves the Chiefs front office could have made. Did Herman Edwards not learn anything from when he was with the Jets? He's an old, stop-gap player, who left the Jets with a $3 million dead money cap hit. However, the Chiefs' salary cap situation is such a mess already, that it probably won't matter much. It's just another nail in the coffin. Yes, we know he led the league in picks last season, but being able to catch the ball when it's thrown at you doesn't make you a good corner. Just ask Bengal fans. Law is a physical corner who has fallen victim to the chuck rule emphasis. The time when he can be an effective cover corner has come and gone. He needs to move to safety.
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Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard should be listed over Deltha O'Neal/Tory James combo.
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Yes, and I am curious as to who voted for them?
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The idea of Law and Surtain being mentioned in the league's top cornerback tandems is absolutely laughable. Surtain played second fiddle to Sam Madison his entire career, then after he was traded to Kansas City, he got absolutely abused.

The signing of Law was one of the worst moves the Chiefs front office could have made. Did Herman Edwards not learn anything from when he was with the Jets? He's an old, stop-gap player, who left the Jets with a $3 million dead money cap hit. However, the Chiefs' salary cap situation is such a mess already, that it probably won't matter much. It's just another nail in the coffin. Yes, we know he led the league in picks last season, but being able to catch the ball when it's thrown at you doesn't make you a good corner. Just ask Bengal fans. Law is a physical corner who has fallen victim to the chuck rule emphasis. The time when he can be an effective cover corner has come and gone. He needs to move to safety.
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He (Ty Law) needs to move to safety.

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The idea of Law and Surtain being mentioned in the league's top cornerback tandems is absolutely laughable. Surtain played second fiddle to Sam Madison his entire career, then after he was traded to Kansas City, he got absolutely abused.

The signing of Law was one of the worst moves the Chiefs front office could have made. Did Herman Edwards not learn anything from when he was with the Jets? He's an old, stop-gap player, who left the Jets with a $3 million dead money cap hit. However, the Chiefs' salary cap situation is such a mess already, that it probably won't matter much. It's just another nail in the coffin. Yes, we know he led the league in picks last season, but being able to catch the ball when it's thrown at you doesn't make you a good corner. Just ask Bengal fans. Law is a physical corner who has fallen victim to the chuck rule emphasis. The time when he can be an effective cover corner has come and gone. He needs to move to safety.
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Yes, and I am curious as to who voted for them?
There's no way anybody other than a Bengals fan voted for them.
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this is lucas and gamble for sure. but in a few years it will be williams and hall
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Yes, and I am curious as to who voted for them?
There's no way anybody other than a Bengals fan voted for them.
Yeah, they did alright. They did a good job with picks, though. 15 between the 2 of them.
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Yes, and I am curious as to who voted for them?
There's no way anybody other than a Bengals fan voted for them.
Yeah, they did alright. They did a good job with picks, though. 15 between the 2 of them.
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Just make his title homer now. This is terrible. I bet his kid didn't watch Law play a down last season. Ask any Jets fan how horrible he was. I don't even know why I'm posting because this kid obviously hasn't read what everyone else has said.

For the topic, it's easily Gamble and Lucas. Lucas is probably the best pure cover corner in the NFL and Gamble is very good.

Also about Surtain, he always covered the #2 guy in Miami. He always got the ball thrown to him because no one ever, and I mean ever threw at Sam Madison. He is still a very good player though. Law on the other hand...
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