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When I need an important kick at the end of a game, I know who I'll choose...

Mike Vanderjagt. That's right.



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additionally, i would take vanderjagt in a second during the regular season. i find it funny that people think vinatieri is so clutch... i mean, the kick against oakland was amazing, but what other difficult "clutch" kicks has he really made?
Do you watch the Superbowl or what?
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additionally, i would take vanderjagt in a second during the regular season. i find it funny that people think vinatieri is so clutch... i mean, the kick against oakland was amazing, but what other difficult "clutch" kicks has he really made?
Do you watch the Superbowl or what?
The one against the titans in the playoffs,the one against the rams in the super bowl, and one against the panthers in the super bowl. Also like u said the oakland one.
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the ppl who voted for vanderjagt must be the cowboys fans
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the ppl who voted for vanderjagt must be the cowboys fans
Ya i think that is a given :roll:
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the ppl who voted for vanderjagt must be the cowboys fans
Ya i think that is a given :roll:
Your probably right, there are a lot of homers on here but, i didnt vote for him.
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Or they could be looking at stats.

Vanderjagt and Vinatieri had the same amount of attempts last year, 25. Vanderjagt made 92% of them while Vinatieri made 80%. Vinatieri also missed an extra point.

Vanderjagt is a better field goal kicker. If it wasn't for the miss against the Steelers he wouldn't be regarded as badly as he is.

I think Vinatieri is overrated. All of the clutch kicks he made weren't from hard distances. Most kickers in his situation would have made the same kicks. He just gets more opportunities to be the 'hero' than anyone else.

But with all that said, if I had to pick a kicker, I take Vinatieri because he does kickoffs and is still a reliable kicker.

But we all know the best kicker is Neil Rackers.
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Because this is the NFLDC board, and Vanderjagt is a Dallas Cowboy....pretty obvious that this poll is an excuse to hammer the Cowboy. :D
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The fact that as of now 9 people have voted for Vanderjagt is just unreal.
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the ppl who voted for vanderjagt must be the cowboys fans
Ya i think that is a given :roll:
Your probably right, there are a lot of homers on here but, i didnt vote for him.
Me neither... thet makes me mad. Homers like that give us Cowboys fans a bad name.
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Vinetieri is better, but why does everyone hate Vanderjagt? worth.
Because this is the NFLDC board, and Vanderjagt is a Dallas Cowboy....pretty obvious that this poll is an excuse to hammer the Cowboy. :D
no not really. theres no doubt Vanderjagt is a great kicker but its completely idiotic to say hes better than Vinatieri. If he was still a colt, the results would be the same.
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no not really. theres no doubt Vanderjagt is a great kicker but its completely idiotic to say hes better than Vinatieri. If he was still a colt, the results would be the same.
I dont see how you can say it is idiotic, if you take the "clutch" aspect out of the equation, Vandy is the better kicker. Vandejagt is more accurate from every distance on the field and his KO average is only 2 yards less than Vinatieri.
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Vinetieri is better, but why does everyone hate Vanderjagt? worth.
Because this is the NFLDC board, and Vanderjagt is a Dallas Cowboy....pretty obvious that this poll is an excuse to hammer the Cowboy. :D
no not really. theres no doubt Vanderjagt is a great kicker but its completely idiotic to say hes better than Vinatieri. If he was still a colt, the results would be the same.
I dont see how you can say it is idiotic, if you take the "clutch" aspect out of the equation, Vandy is the better kicker. Vandejagt is more accurate from every distance on the field and his KO average is only 2 yards less than Vinatieri.
vanderjagt played at least half his games in a dome and Vinatieri played in New England. Vinatieri will have for sure the best numbers in the NFL b/c of the huge improvement of conditions
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Because this is the NFLDC board, and Vanderjagt is a Dallas Cowboy....pretty obvious that this poll is an excuse to hammer the Cowboy. :D
no not really. theres no doubt Vanderjagt is a great kicker but its completely idiotic to say hes better than Vinatieri. If he was still a colt, the results would be the same.
I dont see how you can say it is idiotic, if you take the "clutch" aspect out of the equation, Vandy is the better kicker. Vandejagt is more accurate from every distance on the field and his KO average is only 2 yards less than Vinatieri.
vanderjagt played at least half his games in a dome and Vinatieri played in New England. Vinatieri will have for sure the best numbers in the NFL b/c of the huge improvement of conditions
Well, will still have to see on that one. We dont know how well Vandy will do in the non-domed Texas Stadium. He may be just as good.
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Old 07-25-2006, 04:41 PM    (permalink
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Vinatieri, he kicks outside. It's not that hard to be good, when you kick inside most of your career.
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Because this is the NFLDC board, and Vanderjagt is a Dallas Cowboy....pretty obvious that this poll is an excuse to hammer the Cowboy. :D
no not really. theres no doubt Vanderjagt is a great kicker but its completely idiotic to say hes better than Vinatieri. If he was still a colt, the results would be the same.
I dont see how you can say it is idiotic, if you take the "clutch" aspect out of the equation, Vandy is the better kicker. Vandejagt is more accurate from every distance on the field and his KO average is only 2 yards less than Vinatieri.
vanderjagt played at least half his games in a dome and Vinatieri played in New England. Vinatieri will have for sure the best numbers in the NFL b/c of the huge improvement of conditions
Well, will still have to see on that one. We dont know how well Vandy will do in the non-domed Texas Stadium. He may be just as good.
non domed?
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Vinetieri is better, but why does everyone hate Vanderjagt? worth.
Because this is the NFLDC board, and Vanderjagt is a Dallas Cowboy....pretty obvious that this poll is an excuse to hammer the Cowboy. :D
no not really. theres no doubt Vanderjagt is a great kicker but its completely idiotic to say hes better than Vinatieri. If he was still a colt, the results would be the same.
I dont see how you can say it is idiotic, if you take the "clutch" aspect out of the equation, Vandy is the better kicker. Vandejagt is more accurate from every distance on the field and his KO average is only 2 yards less than Vinatieri.
vanderjagt played at least half his games in a dome and Vinatieri played in New England. Vinatieri will have for sure the best numbers in the NFL b/c of the huge improvement of conditions
Well, will still have to see on that one. We dont know how well Vandy will do in the non-domed Texas Stadium. He may be just as good.
non domed?
You cant really consider it an actually dome.
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You cant really consider it an actually dome.
its better than being just outside. i think vanderjagt will put up similar numbers to what he has. I still consider him as the 3rd best kicker in the NFL
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You cant really consider it an actually dome.
its better than being just outside. i think vanderjagt will put up similar numbers to what he has. I still consider him as the 3rd best kicker in the NFL
Who are the top 2, in your opinion?
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You cant really consider it an actually dome.
its better than being just outside. i think vanderjagt will put up similar numbers to what he has. I still consider him as the 3rd best kicker in the NFL
Who are the top 2, in your opinion?
Vinatieri and Rackers. I am a lil biased though, being a Colts and Cardinals fan. I know this was Rackers first great year but i put him about equal with vanderjagt.
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You cant really consider it an actually dome.
its better than being just outside. i think vanderjagt will put up similar numbers to what he has. I still consider him as the 3rd best kicker in the NFL
Who are the top 2, in your opinion?
Vinatieri and Rackers. I am a lil biased though, being a Colts and Cardinals fan. I know this was Rackers first great year but i put him about equal with vanderjagt.
rackers was amazing last year.
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Because this is the NFLDC board, and Vanderjagt is a Dallas Cowboy....pretty obvious that this poll is an excuse to hammer the Cowboy. :D
no not really. theres no doubt Vanderjagt is a great kicker but its completely idiotic to say hes better than Vinatieri. If he was still a colt, the results would be the same.
I agree too that Vin is better...but what is the purpose of this poll? Seems like a bash hunt.
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