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Old 04-24-2007, 04:25 PM    (permalink
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To qualify as a "unit," I believe you need to have at least two starters.

RB - New Orleans
WR - Arizona
OL - Philadelphia
DL - Baltimore
LB - Chicago
DB - Oakland
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To qualify as a "unit," I believe you need to have at least two starters.

RB - New Orleans
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DL - Baltimore
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DB - Oakland
Turner isn't a starter? Right now If I was looking for a RB I'd rather give Turner 25 rushing attempts than Bush.
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What is "our line"? I'm not sure which one you mean.
The Saints.
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Turner isn't a starter? Right now If I was looking for a RB I'd rather give Turner 25 rushing attempts than Bush.
He mostly gets his carries in clean-up time or at least after LT has done the "heavy lifting"... I don't really consider him a starter either.
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The Saints line is very unheralded. I will definitely agree with you on that. They have some moments of inconsistency, but they are getting better.
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Turner isn't a starter? Right now If I was looking for a RB I'd rather give Turner 25 rushing attempts than Bush.
True, but Bush is the vastly superior talent. And his 12-carries, 5-catches, will change a game much more so than Turner's 18-20 carries ever will. McAllister, when he was a healthy feature back, was a top-5 RB. Add unto that, Reggie Bush is already among the best receiving RBs in the NFL today.
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The Saints line is very unheralded. I will definitely agree with you on that. They have some moments of inconsistency, but they are getting better.
Agreed. We really struggle against extremely athletic defensive lines (Ravens & Bears) and especially 3-4 schemes, but the good thing about our line is that they are mostly extremely young. Not to mention that I think Zach Strief is going to be a damned good guard in the league.
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I also think Bush's presence as a decoy and out of the backfield also opens up lanes and space for the other players. Bush's main rivals in that respect are Westbrook and Maurice Jones-Drew. These 3 backs are so dynamic and effective as safety valves, that they can help the entire offense just by being on the field.
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I wonder how many people will call me out on my; "Oakland has the best DBs" pick.
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True, but Bush is the vastly superior talent. And his 12-carries, 5-catches, will change a game much more so than Turner's 18-20 carries ever will.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. With the right coach Bush could be more productive that way. Which is why Peyton is perfect for him. He is creative. Not that many coaches are as creative as he was this past season.
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Add unto that, Reggie Bush is already among the best receiving RBs in the NFL today.
I think you could make an argument that he's the best. But it's highly up to debate. The only backs that are even on his level in my opinion is Brian Westbrook and LT.
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I wonder how many people will call me out on my; "Oakland has the best DBs" pick.
I think it's harder to see results in Oakland due to the overall weakness of the front 7, especially at OLB. The Oakland D is improving, and the current secondary is very underrated. I think that if they can get better production from guys like Thomas Howard, Oakland's D could win some games for their team by themselves. Of course, the offense will have to perform.
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I wonder how many people will call me out on my; "Oakland has the best DBs" pick.
I don't see how many people would call you out. It really isn't that ludicrous of a statement.
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I think you could make an argument that he's the best. But it's highly up to debate. The only backs that are even on his level in my opinion is Brian Westbrook and LT.

Steven Jackson, as well.
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I don't think you can categorize Bush with LT. I think Bush, Westbrook, and Jones-Drew are a group. You can probably put Chester Taylor, Warrick Dunn, Ryan Moats, JJ Arrington, Leon Washington, Marshawn Lynch, and Lorenzo Booker in that category.
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Steven Jackson, as well.
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Don't forget Jackson, B. He had 43 catches in '05, and he wasn't even the primary 3DRB. Without Faulk, he had 90 catches, for 800 yards, on a 9 Y.P.C clip.
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LT has significant pop between the tackles and can also catch out of the backfield. Guys who share this skill set, IMO: McGahee, Jackson, Edge, Ronnie Brown, Kevin Jones, etc.
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I don't think you can categorize Bush with LT.
In comparison just based on runningbacks that have the ability to catch the ball, I think you can. How they are used in doing so is another subject matter.
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You can compare them, but there are significant differences. If you use 2 players pretty differently, then it becomes more difficult to make a legitimate comparison.
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AJ Hawk and Nick Barnett hopefully soon they will be the top LB tandem
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No love for Hodge?
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:50 PM    (permalink
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No love for Hodge?
I like Hodge but who knows what we are going to do, if he is going to move to the outside or Barnett is going to move to the outside. Right now im happy with Poppinga, Barnett and Hawk and Hodge as a backup.
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I wonder how many people will call me out on my; "Oakland has the best DBs" pick.
Watch me say it in the next post and get credit for it.


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