Baltimore Orioles Discussion - Page 4

Ravens1991 · 06-25-2007, 06:31 PM

I suggest we trade him becuase ERU said he doesnt like it here, we could get something for him.

BigDawg819 · 06-25-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

I suggest we trade him becuase ERU said he doesnt like it here, we could get something for him.

Well no disrespect for my boy ERU, but I'm sure no Oriole player likes it here with almost a decade of losing upon us so do you now want to trade the whole team?

Ravens1991 · 06-25-2007, 08:16 PM

not the whole team but I think we need to rebuild. If that means trading a majority of our veterans to get youth and talent then I guess that is the price we have to pay.

jkpigskin · 06-25-2007, 08:28 PM

i wonder to myself how the florida marlins last year won soo many games with a 14million dollar payroll?

Troj2man · 06-25-2007, 08:52 PM

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yeah unless it sells out (unlikely)

The only time you'll have a problem is when the Yankees or Red Sox are here. You get all their fans here and of course the bandwagon fans here in Baltimore.

Troj2man · 06-25-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EdReedUnstoppable

Bedard is apparently quite the douche bag. He hates Baltimore, hates the Orioles, is not gonna re-sign...........TRADE HIM WHILE YOU CAN STILL GET SOMETHING FOR HIM!!!!

Where did you hear this at? I know Bedard doesn't have the best work ethic, but I doubt he truly hates it here in Baltimore. If he did he would have forced a trade by now.

Either way hopefully the Orioles will be able to trade him. The Blue Jays are going to make a big push for him once he becomes a free agent.

mikehop05 · 06-25-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

Trading Bedard is a mistake but unfortunately at this point in the franchise is one that probably needs to be made. As for Texieria, if we don't pull the trigger on a trade for him by the trade deadline we will have no shot to sign him come the offseason after next year. The Yankees are in talks for him and if he goes to New York then he ain't leaving there for a long time. And whats with all this Markakis infatuation? He's a second year player that will likely be a 20 Homer/80-90 RBI/15-20 Stolen Base guy for his career and everyone acts like he's the second coming of Mickey Mantle or something. Markakis will merely be a piece to the puzzle for future success but won't certainly be a major piece.

he's 23 years old hitting in the #3 spot with no protection from our #4 hitters...

he can stand to get a little more power, but besides that he will be a great player for us in years to come...

i beg to differ in that he will not be a major piece

mikehop05 · 06-25-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

Well no disrespect for my boy ERU, but I'm sure no Oriole player likes it here with almost a decade of losing upon us so do you now want to trade the whole team?

yes.

except ray, markakis, gutherie, burress, and maybe roberts

trade the lot of em for what we can get and lets play out this season with rookies who will play their asses off

(which is how florida did so well with a 14m payroll)

BigDawg819 · 06-25-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehop05

he's 23 years old hitting in the #3 spot with no protection from our #4 hitters...

he can stand to get a little more power, but besides that he will be a great player for us in years to come...

i beg to differ in that he will not be a major piece

Its your perogative to differ but I'm telling you he's not the god he's made out to be. In a lot of ways he reminds me of a Brady Anderson, who by the way wasn't a major piece of any puzzle.

mikehop05 · 06-25-2007, 11:35 PM

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Its your perogative to differ but I'm telling you he's not the god he's made out to be. In a lot of ways he reminds me of a Brady Anderson, who by the way wasn't a major piece of any puzzle.

im not saying hes a god but, with a real #4 hitter behind him he'd be an all star in a year or two

he's out of position batting #3 right now... he would be great as a #2 / #5 right now where he was last year and is this year a little of the time

put him in the mets lineup and the guys a borderline all star, or the twins, or the yankees, redsox, etc.

BigDawg819 · 06-25-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehop05

im not saying hes a god but, with a real #4 hitter behind him he'd be an all star in a year or two

he's out of position batting #3 right now... he would be great as a #2 / #5 right now where he was last year and is this year a little of the time

put him in the mets lineup and the guys a borderline all star, or the twins, or the yankees, redsox, etc.

Yeah so could Huff, Mora, Millar, etc......

Markakis is a decent player, no more and no less. Does he have potetial, yes, does that mean he will fulfill it, no.

mikehop05 · 06-25-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

Yeah so could Huff, Mora, Millar, etc......

Markakis is a decent player, no more and no less. Does he have potetial, yes, does that mean he will fulfill it, no.

alright well we can both agree he has the potential at least to be a stud

not a hof'er, or mvp but a guy that we can build around..

but he has to live up to that potential

on another note, i think we have a future ace in adam loewen, hopefully he is the same after his injury...

BigDawg819 · 06-26-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mikehop05

alright well we can both agree he has the potential at least to be a stud

not a hof'er, or mvp but a guy that we can build around..

but he has to live up to that potential

on another note, i think we have a future ace in adam loewen, hopefully he is the same after his injury...

Now Loewen is a guy you build around! Next year he's going to be lights out, 17 wins at the minimum.

mikehop05 · 06-26-2007, 10:05 AM

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Now Loewen is a guy you build around! Next year he's going to be lights out, 17 wins at the minimum.

if our offense can provide anything for him... and our bullpen doesnt blow his wins for him

BigDawg819 · 06-26-2007, 11:29 AM

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if our offense can provide anything for him... and our bullpen doesnt blow his wins for him

Amen to that.

mikehop05 · 06-27-2007, 10:58 AM

im glad you changed back from that chris benoit sig...

fischbowl · 06-27-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mikehop05

yes.

except ray, markakis, gutherie, burress, and maybe roberts

trade the lot of em for what we can get and lets play out this season with rookies who will play their asses off

(which is how florida did so well with a 14m payroll)

im not sold on Burres. He's a journeyman till now.

BigDawg819 · 06-27-2007, 11:54 AM

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im glad you changed back from that chris benoit sig...

Hey I respect what the man did in the ring, but after finding out some of the details it didn't seem right to have it anymore.

mikehop05 · 06-27-2007, 03:02 PM

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Hey I respect what the man did in the ring, but after finding out some of the details it didn't seem right to have it anymore.

yeah i mean i was all for it at first, but the article on espn.com really changed my perspective

fischbowl · 06-27-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EdReedUnstoppable

Bedard is apparently quite the douche bag. He hates Baltimore, hates the Orioles, is not gonna re-sign...........TRADE HIM WHILE YOU CAN STILL GET SOMETHING FOR HIM!!!!

he may be a douche but he still was clutch tonight.

BigDawg819 · 06-27-2007, 11:04 PM

7 innings of 2 hit shutout ball with 8 K's does not make a douche, it makes a bulldog type ace of the staff. That's right Ace! One half of the Lefty Canadian Contingent Baby! :D

fischbowl · 06-27-2007, 11:33 PM

With the Make-A-Wish-Sportscenter features, I was wondering what anyones Orioles wish would be if you were a sick kid.

Mine would have been a full day just me and Sidney Ponson, going to strip clubs and eating some chicken, but now its probably just to be GM for a day.

Oh the changes I'll make.

BigDawg819 · 06-27-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fischbowl

With the Make-A-Wish-Sportscenter features, I was wondering what anyones Orioles wish would be if you were a sick kid.

Mine would have been a full day just me and Sidney Ponson, going to strip clubs and eating some chicken, but now its probably just to be GM for a day.

Oh the changes I'll make.

A night out with Sir Sidney and Scott Erickson would have been high on my list as well. :D

Changes:

Mora - I want to say gone but his defense is too good right now.

Tejada - GONE

Patterson - Learn to bunt or GONE, seriously buy him a copy of Major League and tell him he's a real live Willie Mays Hayes!

Gibbons - GONE

Payton - GONE

Baez - GONE after I beat the hell out of him!

Chris Ray - give him a copy of Major League as well and tell him he's Rick Vaughn at the end of the movie, give him a badass haircut, and some sick entrance music!

That's all I got for now.

jkpigskin · 06-30-2007, 12:21 PM

chris ray stinks... or hes injured

BigDawg819 · 06-30-2007, 12:23 PM

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chris ray stinks... or hes injured

He has been overworked all season and misused. He's lost that closer mentality, they need to let him get back into it by only bringing him into save situations. He's a closer dammit, not a bullpen guy!