Matt Leinart?

[soybean]

Originally Posted by Shiver

Some of these posts are hilarious.

including yours?

[Shiver]

I was always good at hedging my statements, sir.

[CC.SD]

Originally Posted by Shiver

I was always good at hedging my statements, sir.

There's a flaming vagina in your avi


Leinart reference!

[San Diego Chicken]

Arizona should have traded Leinart two years ago. Now they can't get anything for him. If you don't want him around, why string him along?

[fenikz]

According to Jay Glazer he is being shopped around, has play good enough to be worth a conditional 5th maybe bumps up to a 4th if he hits certain numbers

My guess is Washington

[BeerBaron]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-matt-leinart/

Definitely being shopped, but his contract blows up in 2011 so it's unlikely he gets moved. He'll probably be outright cut.

[Splat]

You can tell my posts were from my drinking days, it's a good thing I gave that up. :)

[soybean]

Seattle??

Man, if he's a division rival... he's going to try his hardest to take it out on the cards. keyword: try

I could see him succeeding there with Carroll.

[LonghornsLegend]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Is Leinart getting screwed over this pre-season?

Last I checked, his stats are 19/23 with a passer rating of over 100. And that's without Fitzgerald playing in any of them, and of course without Boldin.

So obviously he doesn't have as much to work with as normal, but still, 23 passes, only 4 have hit the ground. It hasn't led to many points though, but isn't that what we get from guys like David Garrard and Mark Sanchez?

I don't like Leinart, but I think he's getting hosed a bit. He can only do so much with what he's been given..... anyone who doesn't think Fitzgerald won't make a difference in terms of more yardage and points?

(I used the search for titles with Leinart, and all were old. Didn't want to create another thread, so here we go here.... interesting look back as well. Shiver, lol.)

How many incompletions did you expect him to have when he's checking it down and throwing swing passes to RB's constantly? You won't win a game that way, or generate any points, which is the one stat you consistently left off in your post. Instead of focusing on completions, look at how many 1st downs he's completed or how many scoring drives he's led.


He had his first start back in 2006 evidenced by this thread, he came from a pro style offense, he was a top 10 pick, there is no reason at all he should be still looking pitiful out on the field like he does.

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-matt-leinart/

Definitely being shopped, but his contract blows up in 2011 so it's unlikely he gets moved. He'll probably be outright cut.

none of that is guaranteed, was built so the team would be forced to renegotiate

[Bucs_Rule]

I can't see any team giving up much since they know the Cardinals would only shop him if they are likely going to release him.

I can't see a team give up much for a guy that won't throw the ball more then 8 yards down the field. At least throw it 10 so you can pick up a first down on one pass.

Originally Posted by CC.SD

There's a flaming vagina in your avi


Leinart reference!

Oh that was disappointing. I looked at his avatar and saw something from Hobbits dreams. It instead of something that I thought couldn't exist and after 3 seconds of thinking otherwise I am back to my original assessment.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

How many incompletions did you expect him to have when he's checking it down and throwing swing passes to RB's constantly? You won't win a game that way, or generate any points, which is the one stat you consistently left off in your post. Instead of focusing on completions, look at how many 1st downs he's completed or how many scoring drives he's led.

That's where YAC come into play.
Look, I don't like Leinart at all, think he's a punk and was stupid to stay at USC for his senior year, and dumber yet for knocking up an ugly USC basketball player when he should have been banging Playmates and cheerleaders only.

However, he's been playing with dogcrap this preaseason, no Fitzgerard or Boldin of course. But he's been playing against 1st string defenses. His team has been overmatched and his receivers, backs, TEs etc aren't getting open and the ones who are haven't gotten any YAC for him.

The QB rating system is flawed, but his is a lot better than Anderson's is.
Neither guy has looked good because the bottom line is points, and wins.

Still, I think Leinart is getting hosed a little bit here. If Anderson had played well or lit it up, yeah, that's another story. But both guys have done little, partly because they aren't playing their best WR and lost their #2 in the off-season.

Remember, Kurt Warner was washed up in St Louis, and then NYG, but when he got to have Fitzgerald and Boldin, all of a sudden he became a Hall of Famer again. WR's make a difference.

[619]

I want nothing to do with Matt Leinart. I can't believe the Raiders are actually involved in preliminary trade discussions for this guy, unless there is valid reason for concern with Campbell's injury. He's everything I don't want in a Raiders QB, and that includes intangibles.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by soybean

Seattle??

Man, if he's a division rival... he's going to try his hardest to take it out on the cards. keyword: try

I could see him succeeding there with Carroll.

Doubt Carroll would go after him after acquiring Charlie Whitehurst and fans around here want a differant guy to be the savior here and he plays about 3 miles north of Qwest field.

As for Lineart his play in the preseason is probably a little too criticized seeing as he's been without Larry Fitzgerald, and Anquan Boldin for that matter.

[yourfavestoner]

I'm sure Wisenhunt's decision stems far more from seeing Leinart practice every single day for the last three years than it does with three preseason games. Call me crazy.

[LizardState]

Originally Posted by fenikz

According to Jay Glazer he is being shopped around, has play good enough to be worth a conditional 5th maybe bumps up to a 4th if he hits certain numbers

My guess is Washington

Probably deserved its own thread, but espn.com says he's trade bait. I know they tend to manufacture stories on that website, but this seems legit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5518740

From top draft pick to prerelease, decline & fall! I realize the rules in Zona & for the Bidwill Family are different where they commit franchise suicide from time to time, like good players turned into Pro Bowlers who take them to the Big Show then told to hit the road when they want more $, but this is plain freaking dumb when you consider the alternative is Derek Anderson, & behind him 2 rookies.

Maybe 619 is right, if the Raiders are serious about trading for him that says a lot about the severity of Campbell's injury.

[Babylon]

Al Davis is probably still thinking Kenny Stabler is going to walk through the front door so interest in Matt would probably make some sense. I'm just hoping Pete isnt interested up in Seattle. He didnt seem to want Reggie Bush so doubt he would want Lineart, but stupidity isnt uncommon in this town.

[BeerBaron]

Rumors that he is going to the Giants:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ade-to-giants/

[RaiderNation]

Makes no sense for us to waste a draft pick and money on him. Gradkowski is a very good back up and should maybe even be a start in the league and Boller has looked decent as our 3rd string guy. If Campbell is out the first week or 2 Im fine with Gradkowski. In a way Im actually pulling for him to beat out Campbell

EDIT:

ESPN’s Adam Schefter is once again making untrue statements about The Oakland Raiders, this time regarding Matt Leinart. The Raiders have never discussed trading for Leinart.

The Raiders are very happy about their quarterback situation.

http://www.raiders.com/news/article-...e-3719312a9320

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Rumors that he is going to the Giants:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ade-to-giants/

Wow, that would suck for Leinart.

Isn't Buffalo a natural fit?
We know first-hand that Brian Brohm ain't the future.

Who's Washington's QB of the future after McNabb breaks down?

[BigBanger]

Originally Posted by RaiderNation

Makes no sense for us to waste a draft pick and money on him. Gradkowski is a very good back up and should maybe even be a start in the league and Boller has looked decent as our 3rd string guy. If Campbell is out the first week or 2 Im fine with Gradkowski. In a way Im actually pulling for him to beat out Campbell

EDIT:

http://www.raiders.com/news/article-...e-3719312a9320

Leinart's arm is not strong enough to be a Raider.

He's like Brady Quinn, he just checks it down on every play. Pretty boring offense that has never worked and never will.

[Splat]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Rumors that he is going to the Giants:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ade-to-giants/

It makes sense they need a back up.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Splat

It makes sense they need a back up.

I'd rather Rhett Bomar.

[Splat]

Anquan Boldin gives his two cents on the matter.

http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...he-next-level/

On the quarterback situation in Arizona – specifically how Matt Leinart hasn’t secured the starting job and if he’s surprised by that:

“Honestly no. That’s just because I’ve been there and witnessed the relationship between both Matt and Coach Whisenhunt. So I’m actually not surprised. I don’t really want to speak too much on that because it’s not my problem. If it doesn’t refer to anybody in black and purple, I really could care less.”

[CC.SD]

Wow apparently the cards are still talking to kurt warner?