Matt Leinart? - Page 4

phlysac · 09-01-2010, 04:52 PM

Gotta love sports media...

This is a headline that shows up on the very first page of Google News...

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Could 49ers Be Interested in Matt Leinart?

He continued with this great snippet...

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The Oakland Raiders have already reached out to the Cardinals, but the other Bay Area team makes more sense.

Included in the body of the article is this "somewhat" important revelation...

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Of course there is absolutely no fact to back this up. It’s purely an observation that could make sense if the Cardinals are willing to deal within their division.

Gotta love the current state of sports journalism.

WinslowBodden · 09-01-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

Wow apparently the cards are still talking to kurt warner?

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Splat · 09-03-2010, 07:35 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...me-of-chicken/

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The Cardinals would like to get something, anything in return for 2006 first-round pick Matt Leinart. And by all appearances the Cardinals don't want to cut him loose, since doing so would likely result in Leinart making a beeline for Pete Carroll and his Seahawks.

Cardinals expressly gave Leinart permission to seek his own trade and Leinart opting not to do so because he thinks staying put is his best chance of starting in 2010.

soybean · 09-03-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...me-of-chicken/

hmm interesting. two things, if he sucks so bad (which he probably does) why would they be scared of him going to a division rival?

Second, regardless if he starts or not, does anyone really see Derek Anderson being able to hold onto the starting job an entire season? Matt will play eventually, the question is... when?

Though he's been "whiney" this past week, he's still doing all the right things. He has shown maturity but... can he play football?

nepg · 09-03-2010, 09:24 PM

I really do think Whisenhunt is holding Leinart back. He's does little things to impede his progress and undermine his ability to become the leader on the field. As a head coach, you put yourself behind your QB and stick up for him at every turn. Ken has refused to do this at any point in Leinart's career. He has the perfect opportunity to do it this year, and chose to create a QB controversy instead.

Obviously Whisenhunt completely missed the last 3 years of Cleveland Browns football... You can't be indecisive about your QB. The choice should be pretty clear-cut. On one side, you have a first round pick who hasn't played that great, but also hasn't been given a real chance. He's a guy that could still be someone you can win with. On the other side, you have a wandering veteran who has proved he can step up in a back-up role, but is really not a guy you can win with as your full-time starter.

Derek Anderson has proven he can make a case for himself in a QB competition, but he's just like Gus Frerrotte, Shaun Hill, and Kelley Holcomb (among many others). Good for a big game or two in a back-up spot, but is complete trash after more than a couple games because he's easy to gameplan for and doesn't do the little things that good starting QBs do.

J-Mike88 · 09-03-2010, 11:14 PM

i agree with you nepg.
i don't like leinart, and know he's nothing compared to warner.
yet i don't think he's been given even close to a fair shot this preseason.

he'll resurface somewhere where they will give him a fairer chance. but where?

LetsGoGiants! · 09-04-2010, 01:12 PM

He is getting released says nfl.com

Brent · 09-04-2010, 01:17 PM

Max Hall is now the #2? Gebus.

MetSox17 · 09-04-2010, 01:23 PM

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Max Hall is now the #2?

Championship!

Jvig43 · 09-04-2010, 01:24 PM

Yup, NFL.com just reported it. Wow, didnt even try to get anything for him.

Brent · 09-04-2010, 01:24 PM

and here, I thought people were schlobbing Skelton's knob.

Splat · 09-04-2010, 01:25 PM

Seattle???

BeerBaron · 09-04-2010, 01:25 PM

Just something I've been mulling over.....are the Cardinals a top 5 pick kind of team now? Derrick Anderson with 2 rookie backups isn't going to do much.....their o-line has never really been very good. And their defense lost 2 of it's 3 best players in the offseason.

Other than very recent history, is there much seperating the Cardinals from the likes of the Bills, Chiefs or Browns?

LonghornsLegend · 09-04-2010, 01:29 PM

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and here, I thought people were schlobbing Skelton's knob.

I think Max Hall is gonna be a nice surprise for them. Granted if they do end up picking top 5 or 10 they may not pass up on an elite QB. But if they start that bad, Hall is gonna start at least 6 games so they can see what they have but I expect him to be the full time starter in 2011.

He's looked really good in the pre-season and his College career was very decorated. Still gonna be a looong season for them. Anyone know why they didn't want to trade for McNabb though? With him they could make a deep playoff run.

nepg · 09-04-2010, 01:30 PM

Their OL is terrible (has been since McGinnis left). With a ball holder like Anderson back there, this team could definitely be looking at a ceiling of 6 wins. Won't take much for them to be picking in the Top 5. Their defense is OK, but unspectacular most of the time.

MetSox17 · 09-04-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jvig43

Yup, NFL.com just reported it. Wow, didnt even try to get anything for him.

They gave his agent the nod to look for a trade, but Leinart didn't wanna be moved. Besides, they wouldn't have gotten much in return for him.

Thecollegedropout · 09-04-2010, 01:31 PM

Leinart would be wise to look into latching onto Jacksonville. No true pressure, facing a semi-old QB in Garrard and the team doesn't have much of a future QB. AFC South doesn't require a whole lot of arm strength either due to weather conditions.

Can see Indy signing him though as Painter has given Colt management 0 confidence. Matt would learn under Peyton, and get that 1 start in the end of the year when he may have some playbook down. Houston may want a flier on someone once the annual Schaub injury happens.

So pretty much I think an AFC South team gets him. JAX may be the best fit though.

Splat · 09-04-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nepg

Their OL is terrible (has been since McGinnis left). With a ball holder like Anderson back there, this team could definitely be looking at a ceiling of 6 wins. Won't take much for them to be picking in the Top 5. Their defense is OK, but unspectacular most of the time.

If their running game doesn't step up big time they are toast.

Thecollegedropout · 09-04-2010, 01:34 PM

Forgot to mention about Leinart's possibilities to try and 1-up Vince Young on a yearly basis by signing with JAX.....

And if JAX moves to LA....all the more better with a USC posterchild of the last decade.

yourfavestoner · 09-04-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Thecollegedropout

Leinart would be wise to look into latching onto Jacksonville. No true pressure, facing a semi-old QB in Garrard and the team doesn't have much of a future QB. AFC South doesn't require a whole lot of arm strength either due to weather conditions.

Can see Indy signing him though as Painter has given Colt management 0 confidence. Matt would learn under Peyton, and get that 1 start in the end of the year when he may have some playbook down. Houston may want a flier on someone once the annual Schaub injury happens.

So pretty much I think an AFC South team gets him. JAX may be the best fit though.

Words cannot even describe how ******* pissed I would be. I'd rather start Luke ******* McCown than Matt Leinart.

nepg · 09-04-2010, 01:55 PM

I like Leinart in Jacksonville. Dirk Koetter should have some familiarity with Leinart, and I just think it's a good change of scenery. Going from a team with a QB head coach who has a vendetta against you to a team with a defensive head coach who is a fellow USC alum and carries a bit of the rah-rah attitude that Leinart was used to there.

It just makes sense.

Leinart would have a fair shake in a QB competition with Garrard and McCown.

CameronCropper · 09-04-2010, 02:08 PM

Leinart should have kept his mouth shut.

M.O.T.H. · 09-04-2010, 02:23 PM

One of the reasons I really liked Hall is that he is a carbon copy of my Lafayette Leopards former starting QB, Rob Curley. Get that man in the league! Kid is playing in Switzerland right now. lol.

Same height and weight as Max...same arm/accuracy.

3,100 yards, 69% completion percentage, 28 TDs. (School record 7 against Colgate) Arguably the top D1-AA QB last year.

But anyway...I do like Max Hall as a player as well. He's looked very good this preseason. Accurate as always, and in control of the huddle. They say they see a lot of Warner in him. I dont know about all that, but I think he's gonna be pretty good. I eagerly await his first start and as a lot of people have said, considering they have Derek Anderson starting...it shouldnt be too long a wait.

soybean · 09-04-2010, 02:31 PM

The Cards should now make a push for Jake Locker. Jake Locker with that offense would be sickkkkkkkkk.

I have a feeling though that Whiz isn't too high on young qbs though. Hence, why he had such a bad relationship with Ben.

I wonder if Leinart will start an NFL game this year.

nepg · 09-04-2010, 02:51 PM

Whisenhunt is like Gruden. People think he'll develop some young QB to be amazing, but the reality is that he's great with older QBs and sucks trying to deal with young ones.

It's almost crazy to think Leinart would get a start this year. It's so ridiculously hard to learn an offense without going through off-season and training camp with a team... Possible, though.