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Crickett · 08-06-2008, 10:53 AM

You know, I gotta apologize to you guys. You were right about this and I was wrong all along. I just don't know what I was thinking when I criticized the pick.

themaninblack · 08-06-2008, 01:30 PM

Can't criticize when he never saw the field. Your sarcasm is funny.

Unless he was released for a reason other than Injury, its actually kind of sad that you would even say that. But hey, whatever makes you feel better.

BengalMedic · 08-06-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crickett

You know, I gotta apologize to you guys. You were right about this and I was wrong all along. I just don't know what I was thinking when I criticized the pick.

Crickett, I wasn't around when this came up last year, but it sounds like you were disagreeing with the pick based on what Irons was going to provide the Bengals vs. when he was picked. What I didn't see was anything stating why he wouldn't have been a good RB at the time of him being drafted. He seemed to be at least a solid RB coming out of the SEC and though you didn't agree with where Perry was injury wise, Perry was at best a question mark and Rudi wasn't getting younger.

Irons sustained a major knee injury and NEVER saw a regular season carry, so it's hard to argue what he would or would not have become in this offense. Certainly not to a degree that it could be argued that the pick was good or bad.

If you want to say the defensive needs were greater, I'm cool with that and would even agree, but it's no more than a crap shoot to say definitively that it was a wasted pick. It's a shame he got injured and it's really a mute point as he will probably never play again.

Once again, I don't know you, but have to question your coming back to gloat about a point you weren't really making to begin with...

Crickett · 08-06-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMedic

Crickett, I wasn't around when this came up last year, but it sounds like you were disagreeing with the pick based on what Irons was going to provide the Bengals vs. when he was picked. What I didn't see was anything stating why he wouldn't have been a good RB at the time of him being drafted. He seemed to be at least a solid RB coming out of the SEC and though you didn't agree with where Perry was injury wise, Perry was at best a question mark and Rudi wasn't getting younger.

Irons sustained a major knee injury and NEVER saw a regular season carry, so it's hard to argue what he would or would not have become in this offense. Certainly not to a degree that it could be argued that the pick was good or bad.

If you want to say the defensive needs were greater, I'm cool with that and would even agree, but it's no more than a crap shoot to say definitively that it was a wasted pick. It's a shame he got injured and it's really a mute point as he will probably never play again.

Once again, I don't know you, but have to question your coming back to gloat about a point you weren't really making to begin with...

Well, keep this in mind too. This thread was the first and only time I got rep raped on this forum. So yeah, I'm coming back to gloat.

themaninblack · 08-06-2008, 05:41 PM

Gloating over a major knee injury that will probably end his career? All class.

PalmerToCJ · 08-06-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crickett

Well, keep this in mind too. This thread was the first and only time I got rep raped on this forum. So yeah, I'm coming back to gloat.

What is there to gloat about? That a guy had a likely career ending injury 2 plays into his career? You should be proud.

A healthy Irons would've been huge last year with Rudi sucking.

Crickett · 08-06-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerToCJ

What is there to gloat about? That a guy had a likely career ending injury 2 plays into his career? You should be proud.

A healthy Irons would've been huge last year with Rudi sucking.

Yeah, I'm not gloating that I was right that Kenny Irons was a poor choice by the Bengals, or how absurd the "but Chris Perry is injury prone" reasoning was, or that he's off the team after so little time. No, I'm gloating that he got hurt. Right.

Bengalsrocket · 08-06-2008, 11:02 PM

If injuries didn't occur it would have been a really intelligent pick imo. You can't throw every high end pick at your defense, or else you'll end up with no offense in a few years. This year we went LB / WR too; we would have been fine on WR even if Chad left (I highly doubt Simpson plays anything more than slot and he'll be splitting that time with another receiver).

Is it a wasted pick even if he is basically useless to us this year? no, because we need to think about more than 08. Likewise with kenny, he probably would have been the 2nd back at most in 08, and probably in 09 too if he was healthy. But as a franchise you have to look past whats right in front of you and see the future. And if Kenny Irons had stayed healthy he would eventually have been Rudi's replacement I think.

PalmerToCJ · 08-06-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crickett

Yeah, I'm not gloating that I was right that Kenny Irons was a poor choice by the Bengals, or how absurd the "but Chris Perry is injury prone" reasoning was, or that he's off the team after so little time. No, I'm gloating that he got hurt. Right.

Neither side can prove right or wrong in this case... The guy essentially never played, got hurt and was gone. Just one of those deals.

You could say he would've never worked and I can't prove you wrong. I could also say he would've been huge last year and you can't prove me wrong. Just one of those deals.

BengalMedic · 08-07-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Crickett

Well, keep this in mind too. This thread was the first and only time I got rep raped on this forum. So yeah, I'm coming back to gloat.

I still don't get it, but will leave it at this:

You made the argument that it wasn't a wise pick based on (I'm assuming by your reasoning provided) that the Bengals had greater defensive needs, but NOT because there was anything verifiable by his college stats that he wouldn't be a productive NFL back.

That being said, HE GOT INJURED and never took a snap thereby leaving people without ever knowing if he was going to be the productive back people thought he would or a bust.

So what exactly is there to gloat about ?? Him being released did not prove your original point...

I'll follow all of this up with, I don't really give a sh*t about him being gone as our RB depth is still pretty solid with Watson, Dorsey, and Johnson, but that wasn't the case when he was drafted...