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Old 04-30-2007, 03:48 PM    (permalink
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Default Dominating O-line VS. Unstoppable D-line

I always wonder about this topic, I am not sure what I would rather have.

It is tough to say would I rather have a o-line like this

LT-Orlando Pace
LG-Steve Hutchinson
C-Olin Kruetz
RG-Randy Thomas
RT-Jordan Gross

compared to

DE-Jullius Peppers
DT-Shaun Rogers
DT-Tommie Harris
DE-Aaron Kampman


so what would you rather have?
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Well, first of all, you should replace Randy Thomas with Shawn Andrews and Orlando Pace with Walter Jones.

Secondly, I have no idea. They say that defense wins championships, but offensive line and ball control can help your defense do its job. A good Oline can help your offense throw and pass, and it keeps the defense off the field to rest, so I'll pick OLine.
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yea I just put up god players at the position, not necessarily the best because they can be argued.
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Fair enough. I posted my rationale.
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O-Line. If you have a great o-line, you can run the ball and control the game.
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I picked d-line. If they truly are "unstoppable," that means they can stop the run, and the pass, which would pretty much sets you up to win.
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Tough question...
But without a good D-Line your secondary will get exploited from a lack of pass rush and your LB's would have to do all the work against the run. Without a good O-Line your QB wont be able to find the open WR and the RB's wont find the holes, but like bsaza said if you can control the ball you can help the D, so I'd say O-Line.
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I picked d-line. If they truly are "unstoppable," that means they can stop the run, and the pass, which would pretty much sets you up to win.
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No matter how you vote, it would be awesome to see that OLine and that DLine play against each other in a game that matters.
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I think I'd rather have a great oline, so my team could put points on the board.
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even the best defensive line will get winded if they're on the field the whole game. You need to control the clock, to control the clock you need to run the ball, to run the ball you need a good offensive line.
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No matter how you vote, it would be awesome to see that OLine and that DLine play against each other in a game that matters.
I totally agree, maybe we could see something along those lines (no pun intended) at the pro-bowl....nope no way in hell.
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The Pro Bowl doesn't matter at all and is a complete waste of my time. I don't care about the Pro Bowl at all. In fact, I wish they'd stop doing it at all.
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Offensive line. It's a lot harder to assemble a dominate offensive line than it is to assemble a dominate defensive line.
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a great o-line is no match for a great d-line.

but the thing is is that that D-Line you made is really just a 'specific' type d-line.
tommie harris, 3-tech. i'd take john henderson and stroud over rodgers and harris.
although i love tommie harris, he's got the moves of a DE but the power of a DT.. and he runs a 4.7... two power tackles and two speed edges (say a healthy strahan and peppers, and stroud and henderson (mostly because DT's function like the O-Line most of the time anyway... i'd rather have two guys who work well together than two guys from two teams... *shrugs*)... Olin Kreutz is the odd man out. He's smart. he's fast. He's got decent power, but he'll still get crushed by a guys big enough to play two-gap. and then at what point does lateral mobility and the 3-4 come in...

i mean.
i'd take 3-4
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5 Pro Bowl players is better than 4.
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As a Pats fan I have seen us win superbowls with an average OL (especially 2001) and some great DL's. I personally prefer the DL because a very good one can make it nearly impossible for an opposing offense to be successful.
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I don't like that logic.
I agree with Phrost. The number of pro bowlers is irrelevant. This is a question about style of play and ones preference.
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The thing with successful offensive lines is that they may have a few highly talented players at the LT spot and maybe center but overall they become successful after building chemistry and as playing as a single unit. The dropoff in production from the All-pro line and any of the above average lines in the NFL won't be that large. Defensive lines however are more about putting a bunch of athletes out there and letting them loose. Having multiple players that require double teams makes you exponentially better. Overall I think you get more bang for your buck on D-line.
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i would rather have the great oline. even if 2 of the olineman get beat, the others could leave the back enough wiggle room to get a few yards. if the dline has even one guy consistently getting beat by his man, the offense will exploit it.
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i'm a defense first guy, but I'd take the o-line. all defenses suck when they're tired
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