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Old 11-22-2006, 06:14 PM    (permalink
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Well, I am bored right now, so here is our perfect off season in my eyes.

Release: Kelly Holcomb, Shaud Williams, Chris Villarial, Nate Clements, Jason Jefferson, Sam Aiken, Tutan Reyes, Jim Leonhard, Josh Stamer

Sign: Roderick Hood, Demorrio Williams, Eric Steinbach

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Round 1: Quentin Moses DE Georgia
Round 2: Aaron Sears OT Tennessee
Round 3: Chansi Stuckey WR Clemson
Round 4: Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee
Round 6: Chris Leak QB Florida
Round 7: Andy Alleman OG Akron

53 Man Depth Chart / Roster:

QB: Losman, Nall, Leak
RB: McGahee, Thomas, Gates
FB: Shelton
WR: Evans, Parrish, Davis
WR: Price, Stuckey, Reed
TE: Royal, Everett, Neufeld
LT: Peters, Butler
LG: Steinbach, Gandy
C: Fowler, Preston
RG: Alleman , Merz
RT: Sears, Pennington

LE: Moses, Kelsay, Denney
NT: Williams, Anderson
UT: Tripplett, McCargo
RE: Schobel, Hargrove
LOLB: Spikes, Ellison, DiGiorgio
MLB: Fletcher-Baker, Haggan
ROLB: Crowell, Williams
CB: McGee, Thomas
CB: Hood, Youboty, Greer
FS: Simpson, Bowen
SS: Whitner, Wire

K: Lindell
P: Moorman

This way we add two defensive players that can start or at least play right away through the draft. We also add 2 impact players on offense with a new starting tackle and guard on the right side as well as add another receiver for Losman who can run most routes. We also add an insurance policy at quarterback to round out the depth chart.

In free agency we added a starting left guard, the most under rated linebacker in the league in my opinion who can start once either Spikes or Fletcher-Baker leave and can go in for them when they are tired or hurt and play like a starter. We also add a pretty solid cover-2 corner in Rod Hood.

We would have 5 new starters next year, 3 of them rookies and have a couple other rookies making plays in a backup role as well. We obviously won't be too active in free agency, but active enough to field a competitive team. Our offense should be improved with McGahee healthy, Losman better with more practice with his receivers, the line will be stacked on the left side and athletic and potential loaded on the right with an above average centre.

The defense shouldn't be worse, especially with a top-tier pass rusher added to the roster and two young safeties with a year of experience under their belts. We didn't add much to help our run defense, but their isn't much you can do without adding a player that would throw off the entire line in the scheme we run and one who is only going to be a 1 or 2 down player. The only big defensive tackle we could add would be Alan Branch, who I think will be out of our range. I think next year the turnover numbers will be up a lot from this years mostly because of our safety tandem and athletic defense in general.

Our schedule in 2007 is:
Home: Bengals, Cowboys, Dolphins, Giants, Jets, Patriots, Ravens, TBD AFC West opponent
Away: Browns, Dolphins, Eagles, Jets, Patriots, Redskins, Steelers, TBD AFC South opponent

Not a very friendly schedule in my opinion unless we score the Raiders, Titans or Texans. We are probably looking at a 2-4 divisional record and 6-10 overall, with a best case scenario of 8-8 until I am convinced that our defense is back to what it was when we had Pat and Sam clogging the middle. I don't think that we can do better than 9-7 up until the 2009 season until this team can pull something together on defense and be more consistent on offense. I'm not saying that we can't look forward to the playoffs in the next 3 seasons, just right now, it seems unlikely that we will make it that far.
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all right, i breezed through your thread and didn't see anything, but it's been a long day, so if it's been discussed, just point me in the right direction.

what do you guys think of losman right now? is he showing that he could be a stud, or is he just looking like a good starter? or am i totally overrating him based on the two throws i saw the other day?
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looking at our OL, besides Peters I think Fowler has been the best. He is starting material imo. We need to go OT. Terrance Pennington has looked OK and I have no doubt he will have a good career in the NFL as a Back up. We cant keep messing around, it seems to me most of the sacks come from the edge, so OT is a problem as well as the interior...
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Also, how freeaking good is our safety duo, my God! They both have all pro potential and we could keep them both for 10+ years :D
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all right, i breezed through your thread and didn't see anything, but it's been a long day, so if it's been discussed, just point me in the right direction.

what do you guys think of losman right now? is he showing that he could be a stud, or is he just looking like a good starter? or am i totally overrating him based on the two throws i saw the other day?
His deep ball isn't much of a problem, he has a cannon and just lets our smallish speedy receivers get under it. His biggest problem is decision making and the tricky throws. It doesn't help that we have a pretty bad offensive line. He needs to not just stare down his receiver as much and needs to get through his reads faster. His release is pretty fast and he doesn't usually take too long in the pocket, especially when the protection is there. He has all the tools, just needs to get them working.
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Also, how freeaking good is our safety duo, my God! They both have all pro potential and we could keep them both for 10+ years :D
The best safety duo in a few years will be up between: Sean Jones and Brodney Pool vs. Josh Bullocks and Roman Harper vs. Donte Whitner and Ko Simpson. We will win.
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In regards to SPace Ghost's offseason, 2 very minor points (overall a good job) :

- We cut Gates before the season. He went to TB's PS, not sure where he is now
- Stamer is the man, I say instead we sign him to a 15-year deal 8)

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I hate Moses as a prospect. Cant argue with the Bills taking him, but I jut see him as a huge bust.
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This is my wishlist this offseason.

Free Agency

1. I hope that they can retain Nate Clements - It will take a bunch of money and at times he doesnt live up to the hype he creates for himself. But CB is one of the hardest posistions in the game and he is somewhere depending on how he plays in the top 15 in the league. And it will be very tough to replace him in the short term.

2. Eric Steinbach - OG - It is Gandy's last year of his contract and our line play is not cutting it. He would be a great young aquisition at OG. And would help out tremendously.

3. Lance Briggs - LB - I doubt the Bears will let him escape thier team. But Fewell knows what type of player he is. I have a feeling either Clements or Fletcher will have to go, if not both. And we need a young talented body to replace the loss. I think you can move Crowell inside and Briggs and Spikes on the outside would BE A DREAM COME TRUE!!

4. Eric Johnson - TE - The team needs to have a dump off for JP, and havent utilized the TE yet. Johnson is a blocking and catching TE and would be a great weapon for JP to use and look for.

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(as of this week they are pick 14.. and this is in mind all the above has been achieved)

1. Justin Blalock - RT/RG - This was a tough pick. When I looked and saw that we were pick #14 this week, I thought about who possibly would be here at this pick. Talent wise there were a few CBs, maybe a S, or some DTs. I think Jarret and Johnson will be gone before this, so why not attack a giant need. This kid is a BIG TALENTED RT (6'4" and 330), but easily can move in if need be. Why not shore up the Oline early, I havent been a big proponent for a first round RT, but he may be the exception to the rule. And with this we have Peters - Steinbach - Fowler - Preston - Blalock. A young, and talented Oline that can only grow together.

2. Victor Abiamiri - DE - He may end up being a higher second round pick, or at the end of the first, but who knows unitl that day. A big, fast, smart player from ND who can get into the backfield and create some havoc. The problem with our DEs is that they are stat rackers. They arent ones to creat blocking changes, they arent ones to put constant pressure. This kid plays the run extremely well, and doesnt get out of posistion very often, and has great disapline.

3. Dallas Baker - WR - We need a big bodied WR like Moulds, to counter the smaller fast ones the Bills have now. This kid is 6'3" and has some great hands. To boot, he is a character type player and a member of a Leadership Commitee at Florida.

4. Brandon Mebane - DT - A 6-3 295 DT from Cal, is normally double and triple teamed most plays. Even with that pressure has a bunch of tackles for losses. He is a perfect 1-gap DT that we could use in the rotation. Had 7 sacks last year, showing he knows how to get into the backfield quickly
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thats some wishful thinking right there
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In regards to SPace Ghost's offseason, 2 very minor points (overall a good job) :

- We cut Gates before the season. He went to TB's PS, not sure where he is now
- Stamer is the man, I say instead we sign him to a 15-year deal 8)

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Yeah, I knew that we cut Gates before the season but I thought he was good enough to bring back, I didn't know where he went after that though.

As for Stamer, I think he is awesome too, just I was trying to get the roster to 53 players and thought that he would be the one to go seeing as its either him, Haggan or Digiorgio who is a rookie. I want him to stay though, beast on ST, just he has had a couple of silly penalties that I noticed.

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Why is it all fans have the notion that we can sign any old FA without any problem. We are a cheap franchise with limited resources who can only sign maybe 1 good FA a year, and he has to be interested in signing with us. Steinbach is a long shot at best.
We usually don't retain our starters when they cost too much money so retaining Clements will be hard.
We need to focus on the OL for this franchise to take the next step, until we can protect Losman on a consistant basis, we are not going to have an offense that can score enough to win a majority of their games.
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Bills Mock

*Franchise Nate Clements and trade him for a 2nd
**Bills Trade Ryan Denney for a 5th

1st: Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson

2a: Eric Weddle, CB/S, Utah

2b: James Hardy, WR, Indiana*

3: Doug Free , OT, NIU

4. Roshaun Fellows, CB, Tennessee*

5a. Ben Patrick, TE, Delaware

5b. Lyle Sendlein, C, Texas

6. Corey Hilliard, OT, Oklahome State

7. Quincy Black, OLB, New Mexico


Some UDFA's

QB: Joe Tereshinski, Georgia
HB: Justise Hairston, Central Connecticut State
FB: Tim Castille, Bama
WR: Akieem Jolla, NM State
TE: Chad Upshaw, Buffalo
OT: Rolf Krueger, Rice
OG: Dylan Lineberry, North Texas
C: Cedric Gagne-Marcoux, UCF

DE: Devon Parks, Bowling Green
DT: xavier Lawson-Kennedy, Oklahoma State
OLB: JK Sabb, Middle Tennessee State
MLB: Matt Muncy, Ohio
CB: Bo Smith, Kentucky
S: Joey Card, Miami (OH)

Specialist: Andrew Wellock, K, E. MIchigan
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Bills Mock

*Franchise Nate Clements and trade him for a 2nd
**Bills Trade Ryan Denney for a 5th

1st: Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson

2a: Eric Weddle, CB/S, Utah

2b: James Hardy, WR, Indiana*

3: Doug Free , OT, NIU

4. Roshaun Fellows, CB, Tennessee*

5a. Ben Patrick, TE, Delaware

5b. Lyle Sendlein, C, Texas

6. Corey Hilliard, OT, Oklahome State

7. Quincy Black, OLB, New Mexico


Some UDFA's

QB: Joe Tereshinski, Georgia
HB: Justise Hairston, Central Connecticut State
FB: Tim Castille, Bama
WR: Akieem Jolla, NM State
TE: Chad Upshaw, Buffalo
OT: Rolf Krueger, Rice
OG: Dylan Lineberry, North Texas
C: Cedric Gagne-Marcoux, UCF

DE: Devon Parks, Bowling Green
DT: xavier Lawson-Kennedy, Oklahoma State
OLB: JK Sabb, Middle Tennessee State
MLB: Matt Muncy, Ohio
CB: Bo Smith, Kentucky
S: Joey Card, Miami (OH)

Specialist: Andrew Wellock, K, E. MIchigan

Have to think we will be far enough down not to get a shot at Gaines and I would prefer a guy who is a sure fire CB to replace Nate rather than a tweener. Doug Free falling to the 3rd is kinda optimistic as well.
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aren't we missing our 5th for Hargrove?

In that situaution we would still only have one 5th round pick
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I have a question about drafting corners for everyone. Seeing as we are now running a cover-2 defense and we are going to probably let Clements walk this year, when will we address cornerback? I know that Tampa pretty much always waits until day two and has success, I think that they got Ronde in round 2 and thats the earliest they've gone for a corner. I am just wondering if we are going to do this as well like the Bucs or if we will be like the Broncos/Bears and just go corner happy in the middle rounds like every third year to find a good one in rounds 2-4. I just can't see us going corner round 1 at all when we are running a cover-2 that doesn't require us to have great man-man corners, we need physical receivers, maybe free safety-corner tweeners even because in a cover-2 defense the secondary needs to have smart, physical players, we don't need speed. What is our teams phylosiphy when it comes to defensive drafting now that we run this cover-2? I am pretty sure it is defense early and often, but not corner or free safety... Can I get a semi-accurate answer for this?
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well for our team we really only have one draft with a new scheme, coach, and GM to go by. Obviously that draft was heavily defensive. I'm not sure what our plans have been with Youbuty, but whatever they are/were they were thrown off with the time he missed due to the tragedy of his mother' death. I'm not sure where we expect him to fit in, but I surely wouldn't mind getting at least one other corner through the draft. I don't know if we go CB very early, but it should definitely be addressed at some point, and middle rounds seem accurate like we did last year. The mindset at even the 06 draft was that Clements would have a good chance of not being here for more than one year and we took just that one middle round CB in Youboty. Of course CB appears to be a bigger need now than it did last year, but I don't know if we have enough experience in drafting for this scheme to know exactly what and when we will draft. I would personalyl like to see us grab a corner on late first day, but there's too much going on along the lines of WR, Guard, LB, D-linemen, and even a tackle at the right time for me to know what prioritizes over what
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aren't we missing our 5th for Hargrove?

In that situaution we would still only have one 5th round pick
Yeah, out 5th is gone
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I really think letting Clements go will turn out to be a mistake. I mean, he is overrated and I agree with many Bills fans in that regard, however he is still a top 10 CB in this league and can be shutdown, just ask andre johnson. Will we have to overpay to keep him, yes, but thats what it takes in todays day and age. If Marv and Ralph really want to win now, resigning Clements is the best move. The going rate is high, but so be it, I dont see us spending big money for anyone else, why not one of our own. He is an elite CB in the NFL and it is not likely that he can be replaced. Quite simply, if Clements goes, it messes stuff up. I dont want to have to draft a CB early, we are to weak in the trenches. Same goes with Fletch. With creative management of the cap, get Fletch back here. We wont be able to get anyone else, but that would assure a great D. Then through the draft (in the 1st 3 rounds) we can address DE, OG, and OT (not necessarily that order although I would prefer that).
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:42 PM    (permalink
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I know what you're saying. Three weeks ago I might've disagreed, but now that I'm less enraged at Clements, my cleared senses lead me to believe that keeping him would be a pretty good move (or maybe now they're skewed by better play ). If we're willing to bring him back, and he's willing to come back, then I wouldn't have a problem with it, unless it got ridiculously high-priced.
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I love Clements and hope that he stays, I just don't think that he will. I mean, Ralph is a penny pincher and Levy and Jauron are going to want this team to be their team not someone elses, they are going to build this defense thru the draft for the next 2-3 years and hope for the best out of these players. I don't expect Clements to be resigned, but I would rather keep him than see him go, just at the right price and contract length/structure (front heavy).
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I love Clements and hope that he stays, I just don't think that he will. I mean, Ralph is a penny pincher and Levy and Jauron are going to want this team to be their team not someone elses, they are going to build this defense thru the draft for the next 2-3 years and hope for the best out of these players. I don't expect Clements to be resigned, but I would rather keep him than see him go, just at the right price and contract length/structure (front heavy).
That is true, but Ralph is also old and want to win now for obvious reasons. Hopefully his desire to win will overcome his desire for cash this time
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well, this is the game guys. If we win, we can still hold out slim hope, lose an we are pretty much playing for draft position.
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