Denver Broncos Discussion - Page 48

DiG · 01-28-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

it would give us a "shot" at mccoy? like he'll be off the board at 10/11?

either way, it would be massively overvaluing a top five pick.

you think gerald mccoy will be there at 10/11???

jCut · 01-28-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Thirty

you think gerald mccoy will be there at 10/11???

I think he confused Colt with Gerald.

Diehard · 01-29-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

i don't think he'd be there at your pick, nor am i sure he's a fit at 3-4 NT.

He would be a DE in a 3-4, and probably quite a good one.

I agree 100% with your assessment of his availability - chances are the Lions and Bucs will both grab DT's early.

crossroads · 02-04-2010, 05:48 PM

Marshall Now willing to stay with Broncos

Timbathia · 02-04-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crossroads

Marshall Now willing to stay with Broncos

Hopefully this increases his trade value, as now other teams arent thinking that we have no choice but to off-load him.

OTcoach · 02-05-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbathia

Hopefully this increases his trade value, as now other teams arent thinking that we have no choice but to off-load him.

Any chance you guys trade up and go for Clausen?

Timbathia · 02-05-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OTcoach

Any chance you guys trade up and go for Clausen?

zero IMO. orton is not the limiting factor, not by a long way.

Diehard · 02-07-2010, 02:00 AM

Orton's cement feet are a bigger problem than his arm. No ability to elude pressure makes it difficult to convert on 3rd + long unless the pass protect is really solid.

If Bradford slips to us *and* there are no lingering injury concerns, then I can see that pick happening. Clausen's attitude is even worse than Cutler's - I don't want him on my team.

Splat · 02-23-2010, 05:04 PM

Broncos release Wiegmann, Jordan

Diehard · 02-23-2010, 11:24 PM

Wiegmann - was getting thrown around like a rag doll last season.

Jordan - was a McD guy, but didn't really contribute much on the field.

Good cuts, IMO. Now, where is Jarvis Moss hiding?

rascal · 02-24-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

let's be fair. orton's inability to throw the ball 15 feet in the air is A limiting factor. that said, it's not worth the cost to move up. if a qb falls, and mcclain and haden are off the board, i wouldn't mind using a pick on one of the top two.

Haden? Seriously...have you not seen the Broncos the past several years? I'm sick and tired of using picks on the secondary when our front seven continues to be one of the worst in the league.

Morton · 02-25-2010, 11:57 AM

Why does everyone think that Kyle Orton can't be a franchise QB?

Diehard · 02-25-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Morton

Why does everyone think that Kyle Orton can't be a franchise QB?

1. cement feet
2. a stiff breeze can knock him down
3. mediocre arm

He's okay when everything is going according to plan, but struggles with adversity. We need someone who can step up when the game is on the line.

rascal · 02-25-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

let me know what front seven guy you want to use a top ten pick on, outside of mcclain, who i mentioned. can't think of any with any remote value at our pick? well no ****. haden would present great value at a position that ALSO needs addressing. meanwhile, quality 3-4 d-linemen and LBs can be found in later rounds.

I would rather reach on a Williams or Dunlap that addresses a specific need than waste another pick on a CB who would just sit on the bench for several years.

rascal · 02-25-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Diehard

1. cement feet
2. a stiff breeze can knock him down
3. mediocre arm

He's okay when everything is going according to plan, but struggles with adversity. We need someone who can step up when the game is on the line.

Reminds me of Brad Johnson to be honest. Yeah might win you a championship, but the rest of your team has to be incredible.

Don Vito · 02-26-2010, 12:20 AM

I hear a lot of anti-Alphonso Smith sentiment, especially from njx. Is he really looking that bad? Didn't you trade a pick this year to move up and get him as well? Sorry, I'm just curious about the guy because he had some hype going for him before the draft then sort of slipped post combine if I'm not mistaken.

Don Vito · 02-26-2010, 12:49 AM

Yeah he was only a rookie last year so he could develop, but from what I remember coming out of college the only knock on him was his size. Some people said timed speed would be an issue for draft position but he didn't run too bad of a 40 at 4.52. I thought his instincts, athleticism, coverage, and tackling were supposed to be sound. Time will tell.

Diehard · 02-26-2010, 02:21 AM

I thought Smith played pretty well in the early going, including some nice plays in run support, but then he got dinged up (ankle?) and really struggled after that.

I think he's got the talent to contribute at this level, but the matchups with the bigger receivers favored by our divisional rivals will never be favorable for him. He'll really have to work to be a starter... hopefully he's willing to take up that challenge.

rascal · 02-26-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

yes. just like darrent williams. and foxworth. and alphonso smith before it was obvious he sucked. oh right, they all played extensively. do you actually watch this team?

and seriously? dunlap? to play what position, exactly? and you're worried about a CB sitting on the bench for a few years?

brilliant draft strategy. did haden kick your dog or something?

You are an idiot if you want to use another draft pick at CB. That is probably the strongest part of the team sadly.

Dunlap would be an upgrade over any DE we have.

Nothing against Haden I think he will be a good NFL CB. Unfortunately that, along with LT, is the position that needs the least amount of attention (especially in the first three rounds).

If you are content watching the defensive front get manhandled again like they have for the past decade then go ahead and waste a pick on a CB who will play 30% of the snaps if you are lucky. That is ******* brilliant.

EvilNixon · 02-26-2010, 06:01 PM

Alphonso Smith at work.

rascal · 02-26-2010, 09:48 PM

champ is average at best now?

Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.

Jimmy · 02-26-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rascal

champ is average at best now?

Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.

he's certainly not pro-bowl caliber. the only reason he got the votes he got is because of the 2003-2006 champ bailey

one guy who i really like, who i'd actually prefer over haden is perrish cox. guy really reminds me of champ in several ways, and i feel like scott's description of him as a poor tackler is very inaccurate. I also think he is faster than haden, shouldn't be listed at 4.45.

here's a small clip so you guys can see him for yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDEyXfKr5gA
certainly worth a 2nd i.m.o.

haden-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI984aFuo28

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 02-27-2010, 08:56 PM

Rolando is my ideal realistic pick. Last time I asked, I didn't even think we had a shot, but the draftniks haven't been kind to him. Hopefully we get him.

Seriously though, Champ is average for a #1 CB now. He's still good, but he's not a top 10 guy anymore.

rascal · 03-01-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

thanks for confirming you didn't watch a single game. but hey, personal attacks are the way to go around here.

I watched every game and recorded every game.

You are the one that started it. And you are supposedly a mod.

rascal · 03-01-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)

Rolando is my ideal realistic pick. Last time I asked, I didn't even think we had a shot, but the draftniks haven't been kind to him. Hopefully we get him.

Seriously though, Champ is average for a #1 CB now. He's still good, but he's not a top 10 guy anymore.

I have no problem with Rolando or Williams.

I disagree.