Denver Broncos Discussion - Page 57

Jimmy · 04-23-2010, 05:30 AM

i kinda feel like we've all forgotten that a day 2 pick is now a rd 2, 3 pick. i felt like i sorta lost sight of that and went to bed with this really crappy "we didn't reload on defense on day 1" mentality. but i really did forget that hey we still have a 2 and a 3.

Jimmy · 04-23-2010, 10:25 AM

so.. can someone put together a list of what we've netted and what we've lost so far picks wise?

CT Bronco Fan · 04-23-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy

so.. can someone put together a list of what we've netted and what we've lost so far picks wise?

It's all listed in the Denver Broncos 2010 Off-season Transactions Thread

Namy · 04-23-2010, 04:16 PM

Hey guys,

Haven't posted here in forever, but I had the impulse to do so after the Tebow pick.

Seems like most of you guys didn't like it initially but are willing to accept it now. I personally love the pick. There has not been a more celebrated college player than Tebow. Obviously, that doesn't necessarily imply that he will translate nicely into the NFL, but his tremendous upside simply cannot be ignored. It's a bold move by McDaniels, but I really believe this one will pay off.

Even though I disliked the Gators team, I never could dislike Tebow. He's a winner, an athlete, a leader, but he's also genuinely humble. This guy is coachable. He might struggle a lot early on, but this is the kind of player an entire team will rally around. We obviously have many needs on both sides of our team, but I think we can all agree that if Tebow lives up to the hype (which he is determined to do), everone will look back on this pick as an absolute steal.

By the way, I still get shivers when I listen to Tebow's pledge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sGv2Zw-WQw

Jimmy · 04-23-2010, 05:02 PM

There is rumor that denver will trade up into the early second round. let's see what happens.

Jimmy · 04-23-2010, 06:11 PM

who the **** is zane beadles? fire mc d haha

3projectPAT6 · 04-23-2010, 08:26 PM

Current inside backers on the broncos roster:

DJ Williams
Wesley Woodyard
Spencer Larcen

I think McD really thought Weatherspoon was gonna be there at 24...

sbh15 · 04-23-2010, 08:31 PM

Gator fan here who came to check out the Tebow talk...

Surprisingly decent reception considering how much people around here hate him. Not a Broncos fan, thought I sort of became one with the pick, but if you care at all about my take, I'll offer it.

I don't know what McDaniels was doing with the trade, that was terrible value, but I guess he thought he needed to do it to get his guy. Anyway, I think Denver will actually not only maximize Tebow's short term potential, but also his long term potential.

McDaniels is clearly a gifted offensive mind, you have to admit, regardless of how he's running the team. He turned Kyle ******* Orton into a 3,800 yard passer with a 86.8 quarterback rating - 9.2 higher than his career best. So, I assume that he can work with Tebow as a quarterback in terms of reads and progressions, and Tebow will certainly be ready and willing to watch film and study the playbook 24/7. It's all a matter of the mechanics, which will still probably take another year or two to fully fix.

But that brings me to the next point. Denver has Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn on the roster as is. Orton was the quarterback of an 8-8 team last year, one that most people thought would be terrible. Brady Quinn still has untapped potential, although they did lose the top weapon. Regardless, having those guys allows Tebow to wait and learn how to be an NFL quarterback.

While he waits, I think McDaniels is certainly creative enough to create quite a few gadget plays and a special offensive package for Tebow, utilizing him in short yardage, as a wildcat QB, and even as a tight end.

So, although there are obviously guys who may have had higher grades and been better picks than Tebow, you have him, but be happy with the fact that this may be the best chance for him in all of the NFL. If you had just taken Dez Bryant instead of Demaryius Thomas, I think Denver would be golden right now, but it is what is.

Jimmy · 04-23-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 3projectPAT6

Current inside backers on the broncos roster:

DJ Williams
Wesley Woodyard
Spencer Larcen

I think McD really thought Weatherspoon was gonna be there at 24...

i really like both woodyard and larson. woodyard isnt big enough.. but i like him

Cunningham · 04-23-2010, 08:51 PM

pretty sure haggan will move inside and play ilb on running downs with woodyard replacing him on passing downs

jCut · 04-23-2010, 09:02 PM

I have to say, I really like this draft. You really can't argue with 5 overall good guys. All tough, competitive and smart. Nice job so far McDaniels.

Timbathia · 04-23-2010, 09:09 PM

Apart from the slightly concerning lack of an ILB, I am pretty damn happy with the draft so far.

If Haggan can hold the fort down moving inside and the non-Tebow rookies can contribute, then we may actually be pretty competitive this year.

the decider13 · 04-23-2010, 09:29 PM

Fixing the o line is good, and set at WR for a while. Decker was one of my favorite players in the draft, so I'm excited to see him in Denver. Overall a decent draft. At least McDaniels has a direction that he is trying to take the team. Should be interesting to watch.

Monomach · 04-24-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Namy

Hey guys,

Haven't posted here in forever, but I had the impulse to do so after the Tebow pick.

Seems like most of you guys didn't like it initially but are willing to accept it now. I personally love the pick. There has not been a more celebrated college player than Tebow. Obviously, that doesn't necessarily imply that he will translate nicely into the NFL, but his tremendous upside simply cannot be ignored. It's a bold move by McDaniels, but I really believe this one will pay off.

Even though I disliked the Gators team, I never could dislike Tebow. He's a winner, an athlete, a leader, but he's also genuinely humble. This guy is coachable. He might struggle a lot early on, but this is the kind of player an entire team will rally around. We obviously have many needs on both sides of our team, but I think we can all agree that if Tebow lives up to the hype (which he is determined to do), everone will look back on this pick as an absolute steal.

By the way, I still get shivers when I listen to Tebow's pledge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sGv2Zw-WQw

Tebow = Rudy.

Everyone wants Rudy on their team. No one wants him to actually play, though.

Diehard · 04-24-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by njx9

awesome, and decker.

I knew we'd end up with Decker - it's a great fit. Going G and C in succession wasn't much of a surprise either.

It wouldn't surprise me if we package our last two picks to move up into the 4th. LB would be the obvious choice, but there are still a number of big running backs on the board if we want to maintain the emphasis on offense.

Jimmy · 04-24-2010, 07:16 AM

at this stage of the game i wouldnt mind a little Dwyer/Thomas

edit: more proof that decker is the next ed mccaffrey. he's white. and he is 6'3. and he was picked at #87. all the proof you need.

the decider13 · 04-24-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Monomach

Tebow = Rudy.

Everyone wants Rudy on their team. No one wants him to actually play, though.

Why are you posting on our team board if you are just going to take shots at what the team is doing?

Jimmy · 04-24-2010, 11:11 AM

PLEASE denver take perrish cox. please. rd 4 we HAVE to take him.

the decider13 · 04-24-2010, 11:16 AM

good call jimmy

Jimmy · 04-24-2010, 11:16 AM

WOOO

Diehard · 04-24-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by the decider13

Why are you posting on our team board if you are just going to take shots at what the team is doing?

Tebow will bring attention, both positive and negative. Get used to it.

There's a guy I know locally who hates the Gators and was adamant that Tebow would be a late rounder. It's one thing to not like something, but I suspect being wrong about it as well is going to bring out the worst in him. Similarly, a lot of people on this board were pretty vocal in their denigration of Tebow - don't expect them to start taking the high road now.

The truth is that no one knows how this will turn out. I can only hope that McD puts Tebow in the best possible situation to succeed.

Diehard · 04-24-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy

PLEASE denver take perrish cox. please. rd 4 we HAVE to take him.

Nice call, bro. Good value.

Doesn't quite fit the mould in terms of character, but I assume whatever the underlying issues were didn't bother McD too much. We've got pretty strong leadership in the secondary, which will help as well.

Monomach · 04-24-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by the decider13

Why are you posting on our team board if you are just going to take shots at what the team is doing?

I know it's silly to expect people to discuss the draft on a draft discussion board. Downright ridiculous, amirite?

Am I not allowed to unless I come here to fellate your horrible head coach who traded off the offensive core of your team and wasted the picks he got for them?

Diehard · 04-24-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Monomach

Am I not allowed to unless I come here to fellate your horrible head coach who traded off the offensive core of your team and wasted the picks he got for them?

You express that as fact, yet it remains to be seen.

You of course may cast doubt on the decisions made. However, if these moves end up paying off, you will be required to bow down before Tebow's holy might and grovel for forgiveness.

keylime_5 · 04-24-2010, 06:57 PM

Love you guys' Zane Beadles pick. He was guy I was hoping Cleveland would snag in round 3.

Hope you guys are prepared for non-stop ESPN/Media attention considering who you drafted at QB. We had the same thing with Brady Quinn, but I think Tebow-fest in Denver with the media will be ten fold what Quinn was.