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Old 10-19-2010, 11:43 AM    (permalink
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3.8 for Tebow. Give the man the ball!!!!

Seriously though, it's annoying seeing how abysmal our running game is with how many runners we've had on this team that are enjoying moderate success elsewhere. Obviously Hillis, and Mike Bell was good last season. Our problems aren't the RBs, but the RBs clearly aren't helping either. I'm actually starting to come around on Moreno, but that's probably because he's surrounded by total **** and looks decent by comparison.

Actually statistically, he's surrounded by such **** that he doesn't even look decent by any measure other than comparison.
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I'd be pretty sad if we ended up with Rudolph with a guy like Heyward still on the board.
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Agree - I have to believe that we can find a decent TE in FA easier and cheaper than we can find a playmaking defensive front 7 guy.
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I hate the idea of picking a TE. We essentially traded a first rounder for one before the season. Plus we traded away Tony Scheffler, who I was a big fan of. Not to mention, the passing offense is not even close to our problem right now. I can't think of a single good reason to draft Rudolph.

Which makes it the most likely option.
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I hate the idea of picking a TE. We essentially traded a first rounder for one before the season. Plus we traded away Tony Scheffler, who I was a big fan of. Not to mention, the passing offense is not even close to our problem right now. I can't think of a single good reason to draft Rudolph.

Which makes it the most likely option.
Add to that is if we pick up a TE early, it means that Quinn is regarded as a lost cause, which would pretty much make the 2009 draft as one of the worst ever.
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I'm done with this team.
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@Josh McDaniels-
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Time for McD to get fired. Seriously. Lack of heart and discipline were some of the things that particularly bothered me about the end of Shanahan's tenure, and this game has all the same hallmarks.

If you give up when you get some bad breaks, then the team needs a big shakeup.

I wonder if Bill Parcells is willing to come and do one of his patented rebuild jobs?
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Wtf happened to you guys???
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Most of the Broncos players gave up after the fumble when we were down 14-0 already. That's when my TV went off - no point in me holding out hope when the team has already quit for the day.
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WHy the hell is Tebow not in the game yet ! I mean come on , your down so many points and Orton ain't doing **** . Bring in superman and let him try to run the offense and see wht he can do for crying out loud .
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WHy the hell is Tebow not in the game yet ! I mean come on , your down so many points and Orton ain't doing **** . Bring in superman and let him try to run the offense and see wht he can do for crying out loud .
Probably because McD heard the fans booing and chanting for Tebow at the end of the first half.

I originally typed that in jest, but now, with a little more consideration, I think it might actually be the truth.
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because he's not ready? because he still can't throw? because he doesn't know the offense, beyond the idiotic half-spread **** mcdaniels keeps trying to run?
With the faith of a mustard seed, you can move mountains. So hopefully the faith of a Tim Tebow can move the Broncos offense.
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This picture summarizes most of my feelings toward McDaniels entire tenure as our head coach.
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Interesting article:

http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_16425206

Basically, his point is that there is a direct contradiction between what McD preaches (intelligence, physical play, mental toughness) and what is on display on the field (mental errors, focus on finesse passing, folding in the face of adversity).
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I throw whatever it takes at Cowher/Gruden/Billick (in that order) to be the head coach. Then, I shift Tebow to TE. Come draft day, I load up on lineman and draft a real heir to Orton. Maybe make a trade for a RB like DeAngelo Williams or Jonathan Stewart.
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I keep starting to comment on things, and then the nausea wave hits and I have to stop.

**** football, **** it right in the ass.
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all right, so this season is a complete loss. we finish at something around 6-10. pat bowlen executes xanders. then, he gets really drunk somewhere in Lodo, and throws up on your shoes. in an effort to make amends, he hires you as the GM and gives you complete player/personnel control, as well as control over the (new?) coaching staff.

what do you do?
-if the second half of the season resembles the first half in any way, shape or form, fire mcdaniels. there's no sense in bringing back a coach whose team has quit on him
-look to hire urban meyer if mcdaniels is fired. i'm probably in the minority here
-fire clancy barone and mike priefer. both are trash
-i have no idea who's in the upcoming free agent class so i'll leave this area open
-target marcell dareus in the draft, trade up for him if need be. dareus would be a cornerstone for the dline and for the defense as whole
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A new coach should get 3 years to build his team, especially when you completely rebuild it the way Josh McDaniels and Raheem Morris have done. 2-5 sucks but (close) losses to the Colts and Jets are understandable especially with all the injuries on both sides of the ball. On the other hand, the Ravens and Raiders (blowout) losses should never happen.

The second half of the schedule is way easier but even if they keep struggling, McD should get a 3rd year. Having Moreno, DT, Kuper, Harris, Doom, Ayers, Dawkins, Goodman all missing significant time is a huge reason for 2-5.
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A new coach should get 3 years to build his team, especially when you completely rebuild it the way Josh McDaniels and Raheem Morris have done. 2-5 sucks but (close) losses to the Colts and Jets are understandable especially with all the injuries on both sides of the ball. On the other hand, the Ravens and Raiders (blowout) losses should never happen.

The second half of the schedule is way easier but even if they keep struggling, McD should get a 3rd year. Having Moreno, DT, Kuper, Harris, Doom, Ayers, Dawkins, Goodman all missing significant time is a huge reason for 2-5.
I am going to agree with this. As much as last week has made me want to do anything I can to make me forget about the fact a football season is underway, it is too early to pull the plug on the Josh experiment just yet. He has made a ******** of mistakes, but has also shown enough promise to ride this one out.

What do we need? Some impact players on defense. If Doom and Ayers come back healthy next year, and from somewhere we get a quality MLB and D-lineman that can make plays, then I think we can be okay on that side of the ball. Healthy and especially more experienced o-line, then I think we are okay on that side of the ball. We arent strong enough on either side of the ball to carry the other one, so if one is depleted we get blown the **** out.



"I'm not sugarcoating this. I'm going to be as honest as can be and tell it to you straight. It's not Josh. I've never been more prepared as a player from a head coach. And I've been through five or six already. We knew when the screen play was coming. We just didn't stop it. We knew when it was run-toss and they were going to try to hit the edge. We just didn't stop it. It's not him. People may not understand that, but I'm telling you that's the way it is."

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i don't frankly care if they don't think it's josh. the entire ******* team quit in the first ******* quarter. that's the absolute hallmark of a poorly coached team. that's the kind of **** the raiders have done for the last 8 years.

though, i'm entertained by the idea that missing a barely #2 cb, a rb averaging 3.3 ypc, a rt who hasn't been healthy in 4 years, and an over the hill safety is why we're 2-5. this team is 2-5 because there isn't any talent at key positions and because the coaching (on both sides of the ball) is atrocious.

i see no reason whatsoever to give a guy an extra year to remove even more talent from the team and dig it even deeper into a hole. i see no reason to spend another 16 games watching a guy who couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag repeatedly call draw plays and screen passes that haven't worked once in the 2 years he's been calling them.

mcdaniels is, as far as i've seen, the worst coach in the nfl right now. period. sometimes, you just have to admit you're wrong, as a franchise.
And the poll on the Denverpost website about getting rid of Josh shows that 80% of respondents agree with you. I will not be upset in the slightest if he is fired, but, but, I am prepared to give him until the end of next season as I think what he is trying to do can work (not will mind you, but can). A new coach and system right not would be a ******* disaster with the roster we have.
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let's say that mcdaniels is fired and we don't hire a big name such as gruden or cowher for whatever reason. any good alternatives in that situation?
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Clean out all the executives. Joe Ellis is a cockface. Xanders is a piece of ****. Bring in veteran execs to rebuild the management layer. Let them pick a coach who they can work with effectively to renew the team.

I'd really like to see them to bring in new execs now, as it gives them half a season to evaluate the team.
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