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Old 05-08-2007, 03:42 PM    (permalink
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But did he give himself that nickname? Did he make sure that everyone knows and uses it? It's not so much that Chad Johnson has a nick, and a stupid one at that, but that he gave it to himself.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see how Chad giving himself the nickname "Ocho Cinco" is stupid.
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Leave it to us fine folks here at NFLDC to turn a thread about Steve Smith's contract extension into an argument about 2 other WR's and their nicknames.
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Old 05-08-2007, 04:22 PM    (permalink
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This is good for Steve. he deserves it.

As far as the best WR in the league goes it's Ocho Cinco for me.
1. Torry Holt
2. Ocho Cinco
3. Randy Moss
4. Steve Smith
5. Marvin Harrison

Peyton MAKES Marvin.
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Peyton MAKES Marvin.
And those superb precise routes (especially double moves) has nothing to do with Harrison being wide open on a consistent basis. Nothing at all.
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And those superb precise routes (especially double moves) has nothing to do with Harrison being wide open on a consistent basis. Nothing at all.
Or one handed catches. Or the foot dragging catches, just in bounds.
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You're incorrect, Shiver. Manning has telekinetic powers therefore he's able to control Harrison's movements.
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Put Marvin on the Bucs and see how well he fares.
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Put Marvin on the Bucs and see how well he fares.
You could put any of the receivers you mentioned on the Bucs, and see a drastic downgrade in production. Chad Johnson has Carson Palmer. Torry Holt has had two pro-bowl, one MVP caliber, Quarterbacks in his career. Etcetera..
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He doesn't have a catchy nickname, that he gave himself. He isn't a blatant self-promoter who thinks he's God's gift to the world. Therefore he must not be as good as Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson.
he calls him self big game, dont pull that crap out. ill admit that chad gets more pub but that can be attributed to all the hype around the bengals latley. I can give you hes a better reciever, i think the top 5 is wide open, but i dont understand how tory giving himself the nickname Big Game is ok but CJ giving himself the nickname ocho cinco is somehow selfish
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Peyton and the Colts offense make Marvin Harrison? Well then I guess Joe Montana, Steve Young, Bill Walsh, and the West Coast Offense (the best possible fit) made Jerry Rice then.
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manning doent make marvin at all, but he does help a bit.
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manning doent make marvin at all, but he does help a bit.
They make each other look good. Period.
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Well deserved; came back from that injury and has played at a higher level than he was before
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1. Torry Holt
2. Ocho Cinco
3. Randy Moss
4. Steve Smith
5. Marvin Harrison

Peyton MAKES Marvin.
Moss stopped being a top five WR years ago.
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Moss stopped being a top five WR years ago.
Not after this year.
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Chad Johnson isnt too shabby himself...

He would have 4 straight 1300 yard seasons had he not been 24 yards shy of 1300 in one season...I dont expect his numbers do go down either with Carson Palmer at helm.
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Ocho Cinco is hilarious. No need to hate.
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It's hilarious, as are most of his antics. However, I am not into the 'anoint him as the best because he says he is' crowd.
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It's hilarious, as are most of his antics. However, I am not into the 'anoint him as the best because he says he is' crowd.
The stats are there. He is one of the best because he one of the best. 1300 yards consistently...
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"You can always count on me, I'm like life insurance."

As I said, I love Chad and think he should have a mic every week, but he's not the best receiver in the game right now.
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"You can always count on me, I'm like life insurance."

As I said, I love Chad and think he should have a mic every week, but he's not the best receiver in the game right now.
How old is he? Isn't his window closing? I mean he will continue to do very well but at this point he has limited upside right?
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Torry Holt has a nickname, its "Big Game".

Have you never heard him called Torry "Big Game" Holt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torry_Holt its even on wikipedia.

Its Marvin Harrison who doesn't have a nickname, but he's still the best.
Marvin "Starvin" Harrison. duhhhh
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Im expecting the Panthers make some cuts in the near future...Mike Rucker, Kris Jenkins, Ken Lucas, Dan Morgan....these guys could all be on their way out by the beginning of the 08 season. Minter is also retiring...this team is gonna be undergoing a sort of rebuilding process but they will try to continue to be a top team as they undergo it.
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I got Chad as the top receiver in the game, hes a gamebreaker in his prime and his consistency is incredible. 4 years straight hes led the AFC in receiving and you can always count on him to put up 1300 yards and 90 receptions. Hes not quite as dynamic of playmaker as Steve Smith, Randy Moss and TO, but hes more consistent than all of them and hes more of a gamebreaker than Marvin or Holt.
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There's a new Steve Smith in the NFL, beware. :)
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