New Orleans Saints Discussion

[diabsoule]

I know this probably won't do a damn bit of good but I've been pouring over assistant coaches in the league trying to find some of the guys that I'd like to become our next defensive coordinator. Here are some that I've been very intrigued by:

Sean McDermott (Current PHI secondary coach) - Andy Reid has nothing but praise for him and he's at the top of my list. I see him as a Steve Spagnuolo type of DC.

Raheem Morris (Current TB secondary coach) - Word is that he will be Monte Kiffin's replacement if he leaves to go to UT. Personally, I'd love for Morris to come to N.O. and install a Cover 2 secondary scheme. We have the CB's in place, all we need our the safeties and we're looking to replace our current ones anyway.
With it pretty much a lock for him to stay in TB is why he's my #2.

Bill Sheridan (Current NYG linebackers coach) - Supposedly the Giants want him to become their DC if Spags leaves. If that doesn't tell you anything then nothing will.

Casey Bradley (Current TB linebackers coach) - A youthful former collegiate player, Bradley works very closely with Monte Kiffin in helping to formulate game plans. He's known for his defensive prowess and been successful in each coaching position he's held. He's young but I think he's worth taking a risk on.

Alan Williams (Current IND secondary coach) - A disciple of Tony Dungy and whose been a long time assistant to him, Williams has coached the Colts secondary since 2001. He's helped develop and bring along all of their corners as well as develop Bob Sanders and Antoine Bethea into top safeties. He knows the Cover 2 very well and knows how to utilize the safeties.

Keith Butler (current PIT linebackers coach) - He has been in this position for the past five years and has developed each of the Steelers linebacking units in as many years. His linebackers are known for their intensity and physicality as well as their aggressiveness. I'm not sure how he'd be as a DC but if we can learn anything from how his LB's play in the game then I think he may be aggressive, intelligent, and intense.

Mark Duffner (Current JAX linebackers coach) - Jacksonville traditionally has strong linebackers and this guy knows how to develop them. He instills an old school toughness in the LB's and makes them feared on the field.

[bearsfan_51]

The Saints should hire former LSU Assistant Head Coach/Current Vikings D-Line coach Karl Dunbar. It amazes me he hasn't gotten a promotion somewhere. He's been successful almost everywhere he's been.

[SaintsFanForLife]

Originally Posted by diabsoule

I know this probably won't do a damn bit of good but I've been pouring over assistant coaches in the league trying to find some of the guys that I'd like to become our next defensive coordinator. Here are some that I've been very intrigued by:

Sean McDermott (Current PHI secondary coach) - Andy Reid has nothing but praise for him and he's at the top of my list. I see him as a Steve Spagnuolo type of DC.

Raheem Morris (Current TB secondary coach) - Word is that he will be Monte Kiffin's replacement if he leaves to go to UT. Personally, I'd love for Morris to come to N.O. and install a Cover 2 secondary scheme. We have the CB's in place, all we need our the safeties and we're looking to replace our current ones anyway.
With it pretty much a lock for him to stay in TB is why he's my #2.

Bill Sheridan (Current NYG linebackers coach) - Supposedly the Giants want him to become their DC if Spags leaves. If that doesn't tell you anything then nothing will.

Casey Bradley (Current TB linebackers coach) - A youthful former collegiate player, Bradley works very closely with Monte Kiffin in helping to formulate game plans. He's known for his defensive prowess and been successful in each coaching position he's held. He's young but I think he's worth taking a risk on.

Alan Williams (Current IND secondary coach) - A disciple of Tony Dungy and whose been a long time assistant to him, Williams has coached the Colts secondary since 2001. He's helped develop and bring along all of their corners as well as develop Bob Sanders and Antoine Bethea into top safeties. He knows the Cover 2 very well and knows how to utilize the safeties.

Keith Butler (current PIT linebackers coach) - He has been in this position for the past five years and has developed each of the Steelers linebacking units in as many years. His linebackers are known for their intensity and physicality as well as their aggressiveness. I'm not sure how he'd be as a DC but if we can learn anything from how his LB's play in the game then I think he may be aggressive, intelligent, and intense.

Mark Duffner (Current JAX linebackers coach) - Jacksonville traditionally has strong linebackers and this guy knows how to develop them. He instills an old school toughness in the LB's and makes them feared on the field.

Keith Butler and Sean McDermott would be my picks. I also still like
G. Williams and he just got dropped from the Jags. I just dont think we put to much pressure on QB's we almost never Blitz. We really could be so much better with better coaching on the D.

[diabsoule]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

The Saints should hire former LSU Assistant Head Coach/Current Vikings D-Line coach Karl Dunbar. It amazes me he hasn't gotten a promotion somewhere. He's been successful almost everywhere he's been.

I was looking at him last night and he seems to have most of his success at the colliegiate level. If we could hire him as a DL coach then I'd be all for it, I'm just not sure if he's anything more than that.

[bearsfan_51]

Originally Posted by diabsoule

I was looking at him last night and he seems to have most of his success at the colliegiate level. If we could hire him as a DL coach then I'd be all for it, I'm just not sure if he's anything more than that.

You wouldn't consider the Vikings and Bears defensive line to be successful?

[diabsoule]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

You wouldn't consider the Vikings and Bears defensive line to be successful?

I said most, not all, of his success has come at the collegiate level. He coached the Bears DL for one year. Forgive me for being skeptical of someone who has had success with Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, and Jared Allen playing on the same DL together.

Three nonconsecutive years in the NFL, two while coaching one of the most talented defensive line units in the league, hardly makes me want to pause and toss his name in the ring to be a defensive coordinator.

Someone who I wouldn't mind considering is Bud Foster.

[diabsoule]

Mike Lombardi thinks Derrick Ward would be a great fit in New Orleans. I find that funny since I think the same thing.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d90964

[TigerBait45]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

The Saints should hire former LSU Assistant Head Coach/Current Vikings D-Line coach Karl Dunbar. It amazes me he hasn't gotten a promotion somewhere. He's been successful almost everywhere he's been.

I think he's going to make a really good DC for somebody eventually.

[BamaFalcon59]

Originally Posted by diabsoule

I said most, not all, of his success has come at the collegiate level. He coached the Bears DL for one year. Forgive me for being skeptical of someone who has had success with Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, and Jared Allen playing on the same DL together.

Three nonconsecutive years in the NFL, two while coaching one of the most talented defensive line units in the league, hardly makes me want to pause and toss his name in the ring to be a defensive coordinator.

Someone who I wouldn't mind considering is Bud Foster.

I would have a burning desire to destroy something if Bud Foster left.

[boknows34]

A serious blow for Bush.


From rotoworld.com

Saints GM Mickey Loomis revealed Tuesday that Reggie Bush recently had microfracture surgery on his left knee.

The Saints initially called the surgery a simple scope, but it was much more serious and deals a blow to Bush's long-term outlook. While Loomis claims Bush will be ready by June minicamps, that's far from certain. Athletes that need microfracture typically are nearing a bone-on-bone condition due to a lack of cartilage in a joint. The procedure doesn't always fix the problem. This is the third operation on Bush's left knee in the last two years, which is a very negative sign for a player that relies so much on cutting ability and speed.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

I think Jason Kidd had that and it slowed him down afterwards. Man his career really hasn't panned out the way I imagined it when he first got drafted.

[CC.SD]

Originally Posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking

I think Jason Kidd had that and it slowed him down afterwards. Man his career really hasn't panned out the way I imagined it when he first got drafted.

You are not alone.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by CC.SD

You are not alone.

He was supposed to be something special. Basically all the success Peterson has had for the Vikings I expected that kind of success. Bush has amazing running skills, with hands like Brian Westbrook, with special teams skills like Hester. He was supposed to take this league by storm, and have an impact like Peterson and the other players. But instead it has been sporadic, with lots of injuries.

[CJSchneider]

Originally Posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking

I think Jason Kidd had that and it slowed him down afterwards. Man his career really hasn't panned out the way I imagined it when he first got drafted.

That's an understatement.

[Twiddler]

Yikes, not looking too great for his future.

[Beans]

whenever i hear stuff like this i have to think back to espn collectively jacking off to the thought of him before the draft

[illmatic74]

Originally Posted by BeansDooma

whenever i hear stuff like this i have to think back to espn collectively jacking off to the thought of him before the draft

They sure did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVEHhQ5wTC8

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by BeansDooma

whenever i hear stuff like this i have to think back to espn collectively jacking off to the thought of him before the draft

The thought was good enough to jack off too. He basically was Adrian Peterson, with the pass catching ability to of Westbrook with the special teams ability of Hester. That's a sick amount of talent and production at the college level. That's where the research into if those skills would translate into NFL production is very important.

He pretty much went to hall of fame potential to basically an offense's version of the defense's joker or wildcard key. Being moved around here and there. Bush still showed flashes, but no where near the expectations which was set for him, or even showed in college. Factor in getting hurt and surgeries and it's not good.

[TimD]

Originally Posted by illmatic74

They sure did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVEHhQ5wTC8

LOL at all the Jets fans bitching. One of the drafts we got right. Bush, Leinart, Young, and D'Brick were the 4 guys were really looking at. We made the right call

[soybean]

sigh... game over.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

I was a pretty outspoken critic of Reggie at the time. Thought he would really need to adjust his running style because he will no longer be able to run through gaping holes and be three tiers better than anyone else on the field(PAC-10 defenses were awful that year). At first, he didn't and really really struggled. He was definitely beginning to turn the corner though and become a decent runner between the tackles. Never thought he would be Peterson though. It's really a shame to see this happen to such a young player. I can't name any football players who have gotten microfracture off the top of my head, but I know Amare Stoudemire did and he lost a lot of his explosion. He was able to develop a jumper to compensate, unfortunately there is no jumpshot in football. I hope he can recover most of his athleticism, because if not, I really don't see much of a future for him. He was never an overly tough runner and that could be all he would have had left.

[Miaoww]

DeShaun Foster had microfracture surgery in his rookie season (injured during the pre-season). I never saw him play in college so I couldn't tell you whether it hindered his athletic ability or not. For what it's worth, the procedure sounded brutal at the time I remember.

[BlindSite]

Foster has always been an average tailback so its hard to tell. Stephen Davis was never the same, I think it involves drilling into the bone or something to help create cartilidge I could be way off though.

[captainjack27]

It's a shame injuries have hindered his career so badly.

[619]

Despite all the criticism through the years this is the first time I can recall ever losing out hope on his career. Thanks for the memories. :(

btw I am fine guys, lol.