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Old 12-10-2006, 06:33 PM    (permalink
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just got back from the game.......

this loss hurt the most of the year, especially because everything fell so well in the standings. There literally were no positives that came from this game.

The turning point of the game was early in the 2nd half when Mangini decided not to go for it on 4th down, on the 35 yrd line- stupid decision.
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anyone agree that we got outcoached today? The playcalling was terrible. D'Brick played horrendous also. We really need a playmaker.
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anyone agree that we got outcoached today? The playcalling was terrible. D'Brick played horrendous also. We really need a playmaker.
we have playmakers, coles, cotch, leon, brad----

we have no QB that can give them an opportunity to make plays
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Even though we sucked today, I noticed we finally moved up Wallace Wright! I said at training camp that he looked good and he has finally worked his way up to the active roster. He is #15 and looked good on Kickoffs. He would always be the first guy down there and force him to the outside where he would be tackled immediately. If he ends up being amazing, I better get a medal
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How has Dbrick been this year, just curious because schobel owned today.
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How has Dbrick been this year, just curious because schobel owned today.
It's weird, he has actually been improving greatly and the whole o-line has been unbelievable the past few games--i guess he just had a bad game, although Pennington holds the ball for too long
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How has Dbrick been this year, just curious because schobel owned today.
It's weird, he has actually been improving greatly and the whole o-line has been unbelievable the past few games--i guess he just had a bad game, although Pennington holds the ball for too long
I live in the city and it was funny because all my friends were talking up Dbrick and I told them that Schobel is damn good and that they may be overrating a 1st year LT. I would assume that he has his ups and downs
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im goin to my first game of the year for me, i usually go to a couple a year but i havnt had time this year. But this is a must win for us, if we want to make a playoff run its gotta start here
I went to the game too, where were you sitting?
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How has Dbrick been this year, just curious because schobel owned today.
It's weird, he has actually been improving greatly and the whole o-line has been unbelievable the past few games--i guess he just had a bad game, although Pennington holds the ball for too long
I live in the city and it was funny because all my friends were talking up Dbrick and I told them that Schobel is damn good and that they may be overrating a 1st year LT. I would assume that he has his ups and downs
Where in the city?
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It is a real shame that Pennington is holding our team down a little bit- we got potential on offense. I dont hate Pennington, but he's best suited on a team like the Bears where u just hafta be average and not make mistakes and the defense will do the rest. The Jets are not that team. This is what I am proposing, and it may be a little out of the box:

We trade Clemens and our 1st for Marc Bulger (who seems to be a little unhappy in StL)
-this guy would be great for the Jets and I love the way he has played this year.


I know most likely it won't happen, but I think if we're going to make a serious run to the Superbowl in the next 3 years it won't be with Pennington or Clemens.
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It is a real shame that Pennington is holding our team down a little bit- we got potential on offense. I dont hate Pennington, but he's best suited on a team like the Bears where u just hafta be average and not make mistakes and the defense will do the rest. The Jets are not that team. This is what I am proposing, and it may be a little out of the box:

We trade Clemens and our 1st for Marc Bulger (who seems to be a little unhappy in StL)
-this guy would be great for the Jets and I love the way he has played this year.


I know most likely it won't happen, but I think if we're going to make a serious run to the Superbowl in the next 3 years it won't be with Pennington or Clemens.
That would be seriously overpaying for Marc Bulger. He is a good QB, but common, that's ridiculous.
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It is a real shame that Pennington is holding our team down a little bit- we got potential on offense. I dont hate Pennington, but he's best suited on a team like the Bears where u just hafta be average and not make mistakes and the defense will do the rest. The Jets are not that team. This is what I am proposing, and it may be a little out of the box:

We trade Clemens and our 1st for Marc Bulger (who seems to be a little unhappy in StL)
-this guy would be great for the Jets and I love the way he has played this year.


I know most likely it won't happen, but I think if we're going to make a serious run to the Superbowl in the next 3 years it won't be with Pennington or Clemens.
Maybe Clemens and a 2nd, that thats probably too much also
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Clemens and a first for Bulger would be terrible. First of there are only 3 players who I can think of that were traded soley for a first round pick, which were Branch, Moss, and Abe.

Ontop of that giving a second rounder QB would be ridiculous.
Moving on.....

Clemens actually is now offically our #2 QB over Ramsey. So that pretty much seals the deal that he won't be with us next year. Also, I believe Barlow is due to make 3.2 million if he stays with us, but reports are that he won't be with us next year either.
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What do you guys think about David Carr? I would like to see what he can too playing for a team that isn't a top 5 pick every year.

Would any of you want him on the jets?
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What do you guys think about David Carr? I would like to see what he can too playing for a team that isn't a top 5 pick every year.

Would any of you want him on the jets?
He could be one of those instances where change in setting would help to show the player people expected of him when he was drafted as high as he was.

I think getting him however is completely out of the question. Pennington will remain our starting QB for the time being and when his time is over, we invested a high draft pick in Clemens, who might some day have the opportunity to start.
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I think the only positive that came from this week was the continued stellar play (at least in pass rush) by our OLBs (Hobson and Thomas). Also Barton played pretty well. Our biggest need on defense, is adding a big body in the middle, and potentially moving Dewayne to Kimo's spot. I like the LBs, and Vilma is too talented not to improve his play, I'm not that worried about him.
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I think the only positive that came from this week was the continued stellar play (at least in pass rush) by our OLBs (Hobson and Thomas). Also Barton played pretty well. Our biggest need on defense, is adding a big body in the middle, and potentially moving Dewayne to Kimo's spot. I like the LBs, and Vilma is too talented not to improve his play, I'm not that worried about him.
It may be the fact we dont have a dominant but either way, Vilma is underachieving. He doesn't have ANY sacks and ONE interception. Im a huge fan of Vilma, but thats horrible for one of our top (supposely) defensive playmakers.

(BTW- does anybody else thinks Rhodes deserves to be in the pro bowl but probably won't make it?)
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im goin to my first game of the year for me, i usually go to a couple a year but i havnt had time this year. But this is a must win for us, if we want to make a playoff run its gotta start here
I went to the game too, where were you sitting?
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I really see no point to getting Bulger or Carr to be perfectly honest with Clemens waiting in the wings, and that would be overpaying a ton for Bulger if we did decide to pull off the deal (which we won't).

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I think the only positive that came from this week was the continued stellar play (at least in pass rush) by our OLBs (Hobson and Thomas). Also Barton played pretty well. Our biggest need on defense, is adding a big body in the middle, and potentially moving Dewayne to Kimo's spot. I like the LBs, and Vilma is too talented not to improve his play, I'm not that worried about him.
It may be the fact we dont have a dominant but either way, Vilma is underachieving. He doesn't have ANY sacks and ONE interception. Im a huge fan of Vilma, but thats horrible for one of our top (supposely) defensive playmakers.

(BTW- does anybody else thinks Rhodes deserves to be in the pro bowl but probably won't make it?)
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I think the only positive that came from this week was the continued stellar play (at least in pass rush) by our OLBs (Hobson and Thomas). Also Barton played pretty well. Our biggest need on defense, is adding a big body in the middle, and potentially moving Dewayne to Kimo's spot. I like the LBs, and Vilma is too talented not to improve his play, I'm not that worried about him.
It may be the fact we dont have a dominant but either way, Vilma is underachieving. He doesn't have ANY sacks and ONE interception. Im a huge fan of Vilma, but thats horrible for one of our top (supposely) defensive playmakers.

(BTW- does anybody else thinks Rhodes deserves to be in the pro bowl but probably won't make it?)
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I heard that if we lose any more games, we will see Clemons as our QB for the remainder of the season.
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nice, but truthfully i think he should have went in along time ago
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I heard that if we lose any more games, we will see Clemons as our QB for the remainder of the season.
nice, but truthfully i think he should have went in along time ago
guys, we have this conversation everytime Pennington has a bad game, however after the GB game no1 seemed to be saying this. There is no way Pennington will be sat this year after all that he's gone through to come back. Next year is looking pretty doubtful too based on the way he practices and works in training camp.

Put the Clemens rumors down until Pennington struggles really badly NEXT SEASON
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I heard that if we lose any more games, we will see Clemons as our QB for the remainder of the season.
Just out of curiosity where'd you hear that. I don't know if I'd mind, Clemens is the QB of the future and if Mangini thinks he's ready I guess I'm all for it who am I to doubt him. Just curious where you heard that.
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I heard that if we lose any more games, we will see Clemons as our QB for the remainder of the season.
Just out of curiosity where'd you hear that. I don't know if I'd mind, Clemens is the QB of the future and if Mangini thinks he's ready I guess I'm all for it who am I to doubt him. Just curious where you heard that.
It was in a little caption in the power rankings on yahoo.
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