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Old 01-29-2007, 09:34 PM    (permalink
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Remember, that mock was from November when Woodley was on top of everyone's lists
Oh well then it makes sense because Okoye is a top 20 pick after the Senior Bowl.
Yeah, I posted this on the first page of this thread. I wanted to take a trip down memory lane and I saw this. I actually would be pretty happy if this happened because it fills every need we have.
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Remember, that mock was from November when Woodley was on top of everyone's lists
that was a really good job for that far back! That being said by actual draft day it still might look like ****, i like it though
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However what you are saying is that Curtis Martin was an explosive dynamic back in the mold of Barry, LT, Brown etc, and that's just not true.
1st off i like civility among Jets fans...thank you...2nd I was saying he is one of the best RB that has played yes there are Sanders LT Dickerson Brown but I was saying dont write him off as an extremely ordinary player. Almost every year of his career excpet for the last one he was considered (and was) a top 5-10 RB his play was great and consistent. I dont think hes the greatest (the most consistent season to season: maybe if not damn close) I think he should be given his credit and while he wasn't a playmaker like those guys i listed he had a GREAT career and was a GREAT player and even better person. 1 of the best, that WILL make the hall of fame but I think to write him off as an average player or to say his stats were inflated is off bc he was consistently performing prior to Hackett and Herm.
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In the 1st round...

Kiper had the Jets taking a WR: Dwayne Bowe

McShay has them taking a NT: Tank Tyler

Scott has them taking a LB: Jarvis Moss

This says to me that with our pick anything could happen but if I had to choose 1 I think id take Bowe and the draft would look like this

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2A- Blalock-RT
2B- Leonard-RB
3- Moore- DE
4- Wilson- CB
5- Ramirez-OG
6- Taylor- OLB
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What do you guys feel about the rumor that the Jets are interested in trading for Thomas Jones of the Bears.
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What do you guys feel about the rumor that the Jets are interested in trading for Thomas Jones of the Bears.
No more than a fourth and I'll be happy. TJ would be good for 2-3 more years giving us time to find our real RB of the future.
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okoye will be long gone by then, and after jay moore's senior bowl he will be at least a day 1 pick
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:02 AM    (permalink
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In the 1st round...

Kiper had the Jets taking a WR: Dwayne Bowe

McShay has them taking a NT: Tank Tyler

Scott has them taking a LB: Jarvis Moss

This says to me that with our pick anything could happen but if I had to choose 1 I think id take Bowe and the draft would look like this

1- Bowe-WR
2A- Blalock-RT
2B- Leonard-RB
3- Moore- DE
4- Wilson- CB
5- Ramirez-OG
6- Taylor- OLB
blalock will be long gona by 2a, and i dont like a WR in round 1, especially not bowe. other than that its nice. and of course anything can happen. mangini comes from the belichick school. just look at how belichick took maroney in round 1 last year and shocked the world, but he ended up being right. anything can happen
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2 more things

#1- if tank tyler fell to us and the jets took him, my life would officially be complete. he is a perfect NT for the 3-4. he weighed in last week at 6'2" 323.

#2- im not too sure that i want thomas jones. bush, hunt, leonard, and turner are all better/going to be better. the jets took a look at tony hunt on tuesday at the senior bowl... and i reallllllllllllllllllly like tony hunt.

1-tyler/carriker
2a-aaron ross
2b-tony hunt
3-jason hill
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Do you guys think the Jets go after Lynch? It really depends on Mangini's personal beliefs I think. If he's in the BP mold, he's gonna go after mid round RBs and use a 2 back system. Chances are I think he's from the same school of thought, so I can see you guys bypassing a RB in favor of another need.

I personally love DeShawn Wynn and Tyrone Moss. I think both of them are diamonds in the rough, and would make great RBs in the NFL. Wynn played in that awkward spread shotgun style at Florida, and he's a power back, so it was like fitting a square peg in a round hole. Regardless, he's big, powerful, and fast, and he has good lateral movement. He's also very experienced in pass protection and the pass game, so thats also a plus. He'll make a good NFL style RB, he was in the wrong system in college, or his stock would be alot higher.

Moss was part of a Miami team that imploded. He's alot like Frank Gore. Another sleeper talent wise that needs a new environment to really kickstart and revive his promising career.

These two guys remind me alot of the RB class of Marion Barber, Michael Turner, Brandon Jacobs. There will be mid round RBs in this class that will have great impact, the top of the class isn't that much better than the middle of it.
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Its very possible that tank tyler could drop to our first 2 rounder because of the rise of Okoye and Carriker. He would definently solve the problem of NT.
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Ok, i am just asking a question.. and dont be stupid and answer in a stupid way.... what would the Falcons have to give up to get Janathan Vilma?? Dont answer with like a 1st round pick from 2007-2010
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What do you guys feel about the rumor that the Jets are interested in trading for Thomas Jones of the Bears.
No more than a fourth and I'll be happy. TJ would be good for 2-3 more years giving us time to find our real RB of the future.
Yeah I was thinking no more than a fourth would be reasonable or a 5th with another player perhaps Anthony Clement since they still have Adrian Jones.
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The Falcons would have to probably give a First and a third/ a player
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In the 1st round...

Kiper had the Jets taking a WR: Dwayne Bowe

McShay has them taking a NT: Tank Tyler

Scott has them taking a LB: Jarvis Moss

This says to me that with our pick anything could happen but if I had to choose 1 I think id take Bowe and the draft would look like this

1- Bowe-WR
2A- Blalock-RT
2B- Leonard-RB
3- Moore- DE
4- Wilson- CB
5- Ramirez-OG
6- Taylor- OLB
Football's Future has us drafting Leon Hall.

What do you guys think about that if he fell to us?
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If we could take a CB I would rather take Chris Houston or Tanard Jackson. He would be nice but I doubt he falls that far.
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In the 1st round...

Kiper had the Jets taking a WR: Dwayne Bowe

McShay has them taking a NT: Tank Tyler

Scott has them taking a LB: Jarvis Moss

This says to me that with our pick anything could happen but if I had to choose 1 I think id take Bowe and the draft would look like this

1- Bowe-WR
2A- Blalock-RT
2B- Leonard-RB
3- Moore- DE
4- Wilson- CB
5- Ramirez-OG
6- Taylor- OLB
Football's Future has us drafting Leon Hall.

What do you guys think about that if he fell to us?
Depends who else is on the board. He is the top CB prospect and love if he fell.
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Its very possible that tank tyler could drop to our first 2 rounder because of the rise of Okoye and Carriker. He would definently solve the problem of NT.
I would have liked tank tyler but I doubt tMangini will draft him he got a 6 or 9 on the wonderlick test and they like smart players I think theyll stick with D robertson at NT and draft a guy like Jay moore for DE and try and work from there.

Also as for the fact that Blalock won't fall out of the first its not impossible bc a lot of people said he was surpassed by grubbs at the senior bowl as a better player
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Does anybody think we can still get a NT this year? Tank Tyler might be there for our 2a rounder or should we stick with D Rob?
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Does anybody think we can still get a NT this year? Tank Tyler might be there for our 2a rounder or should we stick with D Rob?
I think Tank would be good, but I hate the idea of getting him with a first. A second rounder on him would be very good for me though. Also, it seems very likely that Blaylock is a second rounder now. Not only is he not a realistic NFL tackle (hes better off at guard), and Hcbrad made a good point that some people may feel even Grubbs is a betetr player after the senior bowl.
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I would still like to see Dewayne at NT for 1 more year, he really came on at the end of the season- I'd rather see us get a big pass rusher or DE or CB this draft (this is also partly to who is available in this draft)
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We don't have a fourth. Thanks Kevin Barlow.

Our picks are as followed:
We have...

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- Our fourth rounder is gone to the Kevin Barlow trade (it was conditional though, so it could change).
- Our sixth rounder is gone to Dallas for Sean Ryan.
- We traded our seventh round pick to Dallas for Pete Hunter way back when, and I believe we still owe them for that.
- We have a conditional draft pick from Detroit for Jon McGraw in the seventh.
- We receive a sixth or seventh round pick from Tampa Bay for Doug Jolley
- We owe Oakland an undiclosed draftpick for Bobby Hamilton
- We receive an undiclosed draft pick from Minnesota for Brooks Bollinger
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a couple of you guys said taking tank in 2a. i think hell be long gone by then, but it would be great if we got him there. but hes def not a mangini player, and its never gonna happen. someone else also said taking jay moore as a DE. hes def gonna be a OLB in the nfl. and he especially isnt a DE in the 3-4.

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I dont know about Aarron Ross. He leaves me skeptical. He messed up at workouts but did great while playing so the jury is still out for me. I think we should either get the best man to man guy in Chris Houston or the best zone coverage guy in Tanard Jackson. What do you guys think?
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We don't have a fourth. Thanks Kevin Barlow.

Our picks are as followed:
We have...

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3
5
7

- Our fourth rounder is gone to the Kevin Barlow trade (it was conditional though, so it could change).
- Our sixth rounder is gone to Dallas for Sean Ryan.
- We traded our seventh round pick to Dallas for Pete Hunter way back when, and I believe we still owe them for that.
- We have a conditional draft pick from Detroit for Jon McGraw in the seventh.
- We receive a sixth or seventh round pick from Tampa Bay for Doug Jolley
- We owe Oakland an undiclosed draftpick for Bobby Hamilton
- We receive an undiclosed draft pick from Minnesota for Brooks Bollinger
We should be receiving a draft pick from San Francisco for having to have Kevan Barlow, not giving up a draft pick.
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