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Old 11-13-2006, 12:43 AM    (permalink
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Ahhhhhhhh we have no offense at all they can't do anything right!!!

Rob Ryan should kick Tom Walsh in the nuts
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So close..

Another good defensive effort gone to waste.
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Ryan should be the HC, hire Fassel to run the offense. Its pretty clear that the players repond to Ryan
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Just think how different our record would be if we had a little offense this year.
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Yah we've definitely lost some closer games this year. Just imagine how good the defense would play if the time of possession was 50/50 and they weren't always defending a short field. :shock:
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What's your take on Huff and Washington? Are you guys glad to have spent first rounders on D-Backs?
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Well Washington is playing pretty well of late, actually both corners are. Huff is still learning how to play in this league. He'll gain valuable experience each game he plays. I have no problems with those draft picks.
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Fab has been playing great this year(did good last year too, butjust did get the INTs), Huff is playing alright...he will come along, once he fully understands his role. We are building a strong defense, and these two will play a huge role in that.
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Wouldn't that drive Al crazy if in the future we were winning with a grind it out, ball control offense with a tough defense that doesn't give up many points?
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Ryan should be the HC, hire Fassel to run the offense. Its pretty clear that the players repond to Ryan
That's certainly a solid idea...

I know this is heresy, but I'm starting to wonder if the Raiders need to get rid of all the Raider HOFers who are position coaches right now...
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On a side note, does anyone know where Aaron Kromer is right now?
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1) I think they are doing fairly well
2) Absolutely

During the 2005 draft, I was absolutely stunned and extremely irritated (to put it mildly, just ask njx) that the Raiders took Fabian Washington over a number of key players. However, Fabio played pretty well last year and has played even better this year. He seems to have a slight problem with injuries (calf, hip, hamstring...) but he's shutting down the WRs and he's getting the interceptions.

As for Huff, he's been an above average safety for us so far, but yesterday he made about 3 or 4 key hits in the game. A couple of them were absolutely huge stops on 3rd and shorts where he came up and stopped the running backs in their tracks each time to force the 4th down, and another where he laid a nice hit on a receiver right when the ball got there. A developing presence like that can really help to shut off the middle of the field. If that happens, it plays right into the hands of our CBs and allows Ryan to let Morrison blitz or freelance a little more.
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What's your take on Huff and Washington? Are you guys glad to have spent first rounders on D-Backs?
Well Washington is playing pretty well of late, actually both corners are. Huff is still learning how to play in this league. He'll gain valuable experience each game he plays. I have no problems with those draft picks.
Washington played pretty well this week but id have to say Huff played very well this week as well yeah he hasnt come up with INTs and what not but he really has played well with some great hits this guy definatly will be a huge player down the road for us and being a rookie he played extremely well yesterday!
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1) I think they are doing fairly well
2) Absolutely

During the 2005 draft, I was absolutely stunned and extremely irritated (to put it mildly, just ask njx) that the Raiders took Fabian Washington over a number of key players. However, Fabio played pretty well last year and has played even better this year. He seems to have a slight problem with injuries (calf, hip, hamstring...) but he's shutting down the WRs and he's getting the interceptions.

As for Huff, he's been an above average safety for us so far, but yesterday he made about 3 or 4 key hits in the game. A couple of them were absolutely huge stops on 3rd and shorts where he came up and stopped the running backs in their tracks each time to force the 4th down, and another where he laid a nice hit on a receiver right when the ball got there. A developing presence like that can really help to shut off the middle of the field. If that happens, it plays right into the hands of our CBs and allows Ryan to let Morrison blitz or freelance a little more.
Did you just call him Fabio?? haha, I am completely satisfied with those picks, (although I was skeptical during the actual draft) because solid DB's are so hard to come by in this league...That position is right up there with quarterback on the degre of difficulty scale - they are so often playing all alone on an island (especially in our heavy man-to-man emphasis under Coach Ryans scheme.) I can just imagine what kind of lopsided affairs our games would have been without the solid play of Fabian and Huff...I only saw Fabian get burned one time this yr, and that was against Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch...I think overall thats pretty damn good.
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Washington and Huff are part key part for the young developing defense we have. Washington has been outstanding in coverage and seems to have that "ball-hawking" ability he didn't have last year and it shows with his three.. should be four.. interceptions. His hip movement is just outstanding. I remember this play in the Seattle gave he was about 7 yards well behind Branch and he just read the pass and moved terrifically to knock the pass out. I also remember how he showed he just wasn't a weak guy in last years game when he managed to hit Plaxico some times and forced incompletions. He has been a shut down corner, and honestly I did like it when we drafted him.

Huff is looking like a very good player, and like my boy NIP said, his presence is shown in the middle of the field with some good hits forcing incompletions. He just needs to tune up that playmaking and ball hawking ability a notch to become a really good safety. I'm expecting him to be a pro bowler in a few years from now.
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I hope Al realizes Ryan should be our coach. He is a true raider
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Fabian Washington is playing really good and so is Nnamdi Asomugha they are playing better than Woodson and Blowtime
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Yeah, his players are really responding to him. Imagine if they had that kind of motivation on offense. :shock: (still would need the play-calling though)
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OK guys, if we have the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd overall pick in next years draft, who do you think we will take? Im assuming Michael Bush and AD are going to enter, so they are available. Im not necessarily asking you who you think we should take, (but you can include that as well) but who you think the organization will take...Can you see us giving up on Walter and taking Brady if we have the number one pick? Or can you see us taking another top Tackle and selecting Joe Thomas if we have the number 3? What about giving up on Lamont and taking Bush or AD? Calvin Johnson seems like a prospect that Al would get all googely eyed over, where does he stand??

Can we pass on a possible pro bowler like Brady Quinn? This is shaping up to be a very interesting draft and I think we all can agree on hoping that we dont take Joe Thomas, regardless of where we draft in the top 3 (I think its pretty clear we'll be drafting in the top 3.)
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What about Asomugha in the 1st round back in 2003. He is a very good DB for us and he got his 4th int. this year.
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OK guys, if we have the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd overall pick in next years draft, who do you think we will take? Im assuming Michael Bush and AD are going to enter, so they are available. Im not necessarily asking you who you think we should take, (but you can include that as well) but who you think the organization will take...Can you see us giving up on Walter and taking Brady if we have the number one pick? Or can you see us taking another top Tackle and selecting Joe Thomas if we have the number 3? What about giving up on Lamont and taking Bush or AD? Calvin Johnson seems like a prospect that Al would get all googely eyed over, where does he stand??

Can we pass on a possible pro bowler like Brady Quinn? This is shaping up to be a very interesting draft and I think we all can agree on hoping that we dont take Joe Thomas, regardless of where we draft in the top 3 (I think its pretty clear we'll be drafting in the top 3.)
Bush in the top 3

Maybe AP.. I can see it.

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Joe Thomas? No way we draft another OL early. Al probably thinks its a pretty bad idea.
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OK guys, if we have the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd overall pick in next years draft, who do you think we will take? Im assuming Michael Bush and AD are going to enter, so they are available. Im not necessarily asking you who you think we should take, (but you can include that as well) but who you think the organization will take...Can you see us giving up on Walter and taking Brady if we have the number one pick? Or can you see us taking another top Tackle and selecting Joe Thomas if we have the number 3? What about giving up on Lamont and taking Bush or AD? Calvin Johnson seems like a prospect that Al would get all googely eyed over, where does he stand??

Can we pass on a possible pro bowler like Brady Quinn? This is shaping up to be a very interesting draft and I think we all can agree on hoping that we dont take Joe Thomas, regardless of where we draft in the top 3 (I think its pretty clear we'll be drafting in the top 3.)
Bush in the top 3

Maybe AP.. I can see it.

Brady Quinn

Joe Thomas? No way we draft another OL early. Al probably thinks its a pretty bad idea.
Hey, our organization has made some pretty questionable choices (remember when we selected a kicker in the first round? 2 picks later, Shaun Alexander was taken) ... I said we can prolly all agree on hoping we dont take Thomas. Our organization is a different story.

And Bush is a Hog!! If he doesent get injured, he wins the Heisman Trophy and Louisville beats Rutgers on their way to an undefeated season and a BCS National Championship Title.

And AD is the moniker for Peterson, short for "all day"

Do you think we take him?
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So if we have the number one, you think we draft CJ huh.
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if we get the number 1 overall pick i hope we trade it down i mean cj would be a pick i can see al doing but i hope trade down 3 - 5 spots pick up adams or branch and picking up few high picks with it
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