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Old 12-21-2007, 03:37 PM    (permalink
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I've seen play a couple of times. He is an impact player at WR for sure. He's alot more polished than Ted Ginn. And during the end of this year he didn't do to bad on the NFL level.

As for o-linemen, it's always a possibility with Reid but the Eagles need to get better in the "skill" positions IMO. Just looking at the forum mock of what if would look like if Sniper was the GM and we definatley need more weapons on offense.
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I've seen play a couple of times. He is an impact player at WR for sure. He's alot more polished than Ted Ginn. And during the end of this year he didn't do to bad on the NFL level.

As for o-linemen, it's always a possibility with Reid but the Eagles need to get better in the "skill" positions IMO. Just looking at the forum mock of what if would look like if Sniper was the GM and we definatley need more weapons on offense.
A) DeSean Jackson had two 100 yard games. He's been shut down way too many times for my liking.
B) In the forum mock, I tended to go with the best value.
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A) DeSean Jackson had two 100 yard games. He's been shut down way too many times for my liking.
B) In the forum mock, I tended to go with the best value.
Most accurate comparison is Santana Moss..I like Desean but is he worth a first? Im not so sure. Its not always about the best athletes but the best football players.
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Most accurate comparison is Santana Moss..I like Desean but is he worth a first? Im not so sure. Its not always about the best athletes but the best football players.
Santana Moss is damn good when he's healthy. In his first 16 game season (starting 12 games), Moss had 74 receptions for 1,105 yards and 10 TDs. In his second 16 game season (starting all 16), Moss had 84 receptions for 1,483 yards and 9 TDs. A Santana Moss comparison is a good one.

DeSean Jackson wouldn't be asked to come in and be the #1 or #2 guy. The Eagles have Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown for that. Jackson would provide Andy Reid with a weapon on offense. Reid could line go 3, 4, or 5 wide with Jackson out there. God help the opposing team if Jackson gets single coverage. Jackson could even line up in a Split Backs with Westbrook for some variety (doubtful, but you never know). Jackson would also be KR/PR, which is something the Eagles desperately need. The Eagles would be lucky to have someone like Jackson fall into their laps.
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DeSean Jackson wouldn't be asked to come in and be the #1 or #2 guy. The Eagles have Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown for that. Jackson would provide Andy Reid with a weapon on offense. Reid could line go 3, 4, or 5 wide with Jackson out there. God help the opposing team if Jackson gets single coverage. Jackson could even line up in a Split Backs with Westbrook for some variety (doubtful, but you never know). Jackson would also be KR/PR, which is something the Eagles desperately need. The Eagles would be lucky to have someone like Jackson fall into their laps.
I still don't believe in drafting a returner in the first round. Jackson isn't that good of a receiver that he's a need at 14. His deep speed is terrific, but he's gotten worse as a receiver and most importantly his YPC has gone down from a deep threat's level to a possession receiver's.
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Bradley played great today coming up huge on the goal line stand and with the game ending interception. Is there any way he could start opening day next year?
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Bradley played great today coming up huge on the goal line stand and with the game ending interception. Is there any way he could start opening day next year?
I hope so, i'm really starting to like him. Played very well today, not sure how he'll get a starting job but I hope he does.
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Bradley was amazing, hopefully this puts a damper on those people who want to the eagles to draft lbs.
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Well he probably wont start but he will see time in nickel situations when Gocong goes to play DE
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My older brother is a huge Eagles fan so I got him this autographed picture in a frame. Its awesome Chuck Bednarik and Frank Gifford.

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do you guys think McNabb will be back? IMO he will be for one more season becauise he has one year left on his contract? I joined in on this discussion late.. what do you think we are going to address in the off season? Anyone know who some of the big time free agents are this off season around the nfl?
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I am having this discussion with someone about how much McNabb would cost in a trade... how much do you guys think you can get in a trade for McNabb?
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I would say probably a third rounder is probably the maximum of what teams would offer the Eagles in an open market. I believe the Eagles would want at least a 2008 first rounder, though. If they really want to dump him, they might settle for a 2008 second rounder and extra.
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I agree with Bsaza I think a 3rd rounder is the best they will get.
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With McNabb's contract and injury concerns, most teams will try to lowball. If you know you're getting a 100% McNabb, his cost goes up. However, given the uncertainties and the financials, there's no reason for a team to offer "fair value".
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If he has another good game this week i could see that easily rise to a second round pick and a little more. Besides by next year he should be 100% I think the eagles should keep him and if he continues to struggle then dump him I also dont think that Kolb will be ready to start next year.
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I'm not sure you're thinking rationally here. McNabb has injury issues, has a pretty big contract (that will need to be renegotiated by his new team), and he's also 31. What team is going to invest more than a third round pick for McNabb for all that money and with those questions. I think he's worth more than a third, but I don't think the Eagles would get more.
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I tell you who
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the supply for QB is Short but the demand is high and with everyone wanting to win now a QB with accolades such as McNabbs should go fast. What did The dolphins give up for Trent? People want to win and when youhave a gem like McNabb thats available in a slow market then his price automaticly increase.
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First of all, I think Minnesota, Buffalo, and the Jets won't be bidding for McNabb. Baltimore, KC, Chicago, Atlanta, and Carolina are more likely.

Secondly I don't see these teams going out of their way to bid with a second rounder or more. Just because the Dolphins made a bad deal, it doesn't mean that these other teams will. If there is a bidding war, maybe. Regardless, I'm not certain that the Eagles would make any trade.
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That not what i think they will get that is what i think McNabb is worth. Anything less than a second in my opinion isn't worth it.
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That is fine then. I don't think anyone is expecting to give legitimate value for McNabb.
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If Trent Green who is like 35 years old coming off a season with a concussion at an old age for a QB and has never been on the same level as McNabb could get traded for a 4th round pick, McNabb could get traded for more then a 3rd IMO.

What do you guys think we are going to address in the draft? I think DE or DB 1st round is where I think we are looking, although I would prefer a playmaker like DeSean Jackson but thats not how we draft, plus we have needs at DE and DB.
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The Dolphins overpaid for Green, just like they way overpaid for AJ Feeley back in the day. They are terrible at evaluating and developing QB talent. You can't set market value for McNabb based on Green. It is always about what the team is willing to pay. I don't think teams are going to offer better than a third rounder, and that isn't proper value for Donovan. I think everyone can agree that he is worth more than that.
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