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Old 05-10-2007, 03:03 PM    (permalink
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Americans always seem to want more pro football. Yet it's the folks abroad who might be getting an extra taste of the NFL in the future. Although talks are extremely preliminary, the NFL is investigating adding a 17th regular-season game and playing it outside the United States. The extra game would take the place of one in the preseason, allowing every team to play once abroad without sacrificing a home match.

This year, the Dolphins gave up a home date in Miami to play the New York Giants at Wembley Stadium in London. Two years ago, the Arizona Cardinals played a home game in Mexico City against the San Francisco 49ers.

"It is preliminary, but we certainly are putting resources into pulling that together," said Mark Waller, NFL senior vice president, international. "For now, we have the one game per season or two per season outside of the U.S. But we know it can be tough on home fans since we're taking a game away.

"So we have asked how do we create more inventory without taking games away from fans? That idea came up in internal conversations and we now have an international committee of owners and we talked it through with them, and they asked us to do some groundwork."

While the 17th game won't get off the ground next season, for sure, it could become a staple of the NFL's schedule by 2009 or 2010. But it would present some significant logistical and scheduling challenges.

For one, if there is another week to the regular season, does that mean openers played on Labor Day weekend, something the NFL has avoided in recent years? Or does it mean pushing the Super Bowl back a week to the second Sunday in February? Or leaving the title game where it is and eliminating the week off between conference championships and the Super Bowl?

"I don't see a huge downside to a week later. The strength of the idea warrants bringing it up for discussion," Waller said.

And what about during a Winter Olympics year such as 2010?

"It might be an issue for the Olympics," he adds with a laugh.

Where would the "foreign games" be played? And how would they be divided?

Waller notes that there won't be 16 different venues for the 17th games. More likely would be a "mini-season ticket" of perhaps four games in one city or country.

"It is very early, but our thought is what we could end up with is every week there would be one international game," he said. "We won't have all of them on the same week. And what you would do is look at taking, for instance, four games to London. Play a game in Wembley each month, having eight different teams coming through. A game in September, one in October, one in November and one in December.

"It's a great opportunity from a fan perspective, because they get half of what a fan in the United States gets, four games to eight."

Aside from England, other prime areas to get games would be Germany, which has a half-dozen quality stadiums thanks to last year's World Cup; Mexico; and Canada. Waller doubts Asia or Australia would be targeted because of the travel concerns, but he doesn't dismiss anything. Or anywhere.

"It is a complex idea and it will take a lot of work on a number of sides," Waller said. "The beauty of it is it's competitively fair."


Sounds pretty sweet to me.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:09 PM    (permalink
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No, it's gonna ruin single season records and wear more on players, if it's gonna be 17, it needs to start earlier in the year, which would be good, but there should be 2 bye weeks for each team then.
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I really don't like this idea unless they're going to shorten the preseason to 2 games. If you cut the preseason games and add a regular season game, I'm fine with it. There are plenty of issues surrounding this plan, though:

1. Who gets the revenues from the foreign games? Is it all shared equally?

2. Will the players get more money per year for playing extra games? Seems like with more revenue, etc., the players should get more.

3. Will the extra game affect records? I think it will.

4. How will they structure the bye weeks around foreign travel?

5. Is this kind of endeavor really worth the costs associated with security, broadcast, etc?

6. How will the NFL do the scheduling to keep things "fair"? Right now, the schedule appears perfectly balanced. How will they add the 17th game and keep it fair?
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Stupid idea. The road trips are going to really throw off the players clocks. More injuries. More fatique players for the mighty buck.
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Two Byeweeks, one less pre-season game. I'm all for 17 weeks. Besides, two byeweeks will REALLY help out teams with fatigue and nagging injuries and increase playing longevity.
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It can't be 17 because of the disporportinal number of home games teams will have. They'll be constant whinnings from the teams with 1 less home game blaming that 1 game for missing the playoffs, division title or bye. The next year it would be the same thing all over again from the opposite teams.
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It can't be 17 because of the disporportinal number of home games teams will have. They'll be constant whinnings from the teams with 1 less home game blaming that 1 game for missing the playoffs, division title or bye. The next year it would be the same thing all over again from the opposite teams.
There will be 8 home games, 8 away games, and one game in another country which I guess will be an away game for both teams.
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There will be 8 home games, 8 away games, and one game in another country which I guess will be an away game for both teams.
Thats a huge jump in international games, going from at most 1 a year to 16.
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It is already a 17 week season. :)
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if there's two bye weeks. there's one more week of football. 16 games are 16 games are 16 games, you can't add 2 games, mostly because of contract issues. extend the season by one week (to week 18). add one bye week, bye weeks run between weeks 3-7 and weeks 10-14...

everyone's happy. everyone gets one more week of football. and one more bye week means fantasy players get even crazier. and everyone's better rested. fatigue doesn't kill everyone as the season goes on. 9-10 week injuries seem a little less bad with 18 weeks to go...

aye. win-win-win-win situation for fans, players, fantasy gurus, and the networks.

now only if they could get NFLN to show decent thursday/saturday night matchups.

what would also be cool is having the pro teams play at the NLFE locations (like cologne and rhein and hamburg...)
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Considering they would hold it outside the US, it's a terrible idea. For the most part, people outside the US & Canada don't give a rat's tail end about football. Plus, how would they do the scheduling formula?
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They really can't put the game in the US because of revenue sharing, 1/2 the teams getting an extra home game, etc. You can't have a playoff race decided by luck of the draw on homefield. If they're adding an extra game, they have to do it overseas. It's a marketing ploy to spread the game to Europe and Asia. It means more money and more interest.
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