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It’s not like the Cowboys will save a ton of money by cutting Sensabaugh – about $1.4 million off the cap in 2013. However, Sensabaugh does have about $3 million in guaranteed base salary this year that the Cowboys will likely want to avoid. That salary is guaranteed if he’s on the roster March 12.
It has been mentioned but I think with the guarenteed money it will be in serious consideration especially if the team has a high grades on this years safety class.
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Was listening to TheFan... said the team has been talking about Doug Free to Guard.

Maybe it's a lie to cover up the fact that they plan to cut him in June. That way they don't have to tell him now and they can keep their draft plans under wraps.
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I just don't see anyway he can play guard. No anchor at all!
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Was listening to TheFan... said the team has been talking about Doug Free to Guard.

Maybe it's a lie to cover up the fact that they plan to cut him in June. That way they don't have to tell him now and they can keep their draft plans under wraps.
It makes no sense to cut his this year, the cap hit is the same if you keep him on the roster or cut him. You might as well keep him as an emergency swing tackle and if you can add some guard depth whatever, make the best of a bad situation. Who knows he might play half way decent as a stop gap if the injury bug bites and then you wash your hands of him next offseason.
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It makes no sense to cut his this year, the cap hit is the same if you keep him on the roster or cut him. You might as well keep him as an emergency swing tackle and if you can add some guard depth whatever, make the best of a bad situation. Who knows he might play half way decent as a stop gap if the injury bug bites and then you wash your hands of him next offseason.
It only cost the same to cut him and keep him if you cut him before June 1st. After June 1st, the guaranteed money is prorated.
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It has been mentioned but I think with the guarenteed money it will be in serious consideration especially if the team has a high grades on this years safety class.
the problem if you cut sensabaugh is now have to find 2 starting safeties. other than sensabaugh who else on the roster can be a starter. matt johnson? he's basically gonna be a rookie this year b/c he couldn't even practice on a consistent basis b/c of hamstring injuries, church already had questions about his speed to cover deep and now he's coming off a ruptured achilles and he'll probably be moved to linebacker in this defense. buffalo is gonna franchise byrd anybody else on the open market doesn't figure to be an upgrade over sensabaugh. the best bet for the cowboys would be to keep sensy and move him back to strong safety and draft a free safety. i don't really see the point in creating another hole on the roster just for the sake of saving a million dollars
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the problem if you cut sensabaugh is now have to find 2 starting safeties. other than sensabaugh who else on the roster can be a starter. matt johnson? he's basically gonna be a rookie this year b/c he couldn't even practice on a consistent basis b/c of hamstring injuries, church already had questions about his speed to cover deep and now he's coming off a ruptured achilles and he'll probably be moved to linebacker in this defense. buffalo is gonna franchise byrd anybody else on the open market doesn't figure to be an upgrade over sensabaugh. the best bet for the cowboys would be to keep sensy and move him back to strong safety and draft a free safety. i don't really see the point in creating another hole on the roster just for the sake of saving a million dollars
It will certainly be interesting but I think they view Matt Johnson as the future at one of the positions. We will have to wait and see what Church can do, linebacker is an option but I wouldn't completely full out a return to SS. If we are eying a true free safety that makes cutting Sensy easier since you have multiple players who can compete at the other position. The only player on the roster I would feel comfortable taking over FS would be moving Scandrick full time and draft a slot corner in the mid rounds.
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the problem if you cut sensabaugh is now have to find 2 starting safeties. other than sensabaugh who else on the roster can be a starter. matt johnson? he's basically gonna be a rookie this year b/c he couldn't even practice on a consistent basis b/c of hamstring injuries, church already had questions about his speed to cover deep and now he's coming off a ruptured achilles and he'll probably be moved to linebacker in this defense. buffalo is gonna franchise byrd anybody else on the open market doesn't figure to be an upgrade over sensabaugh. the best bet for the cowboys would be to keep sensy and move him back to strong safety and draft a free safety. i don't really see the point in creating another hole on the roster just for the sake of saving a million dollars

Probably moved to LB in this defense? That's a joke right?

This defense is much better suited for Church than Rob Ryan's and Church was already the best safety on the team last year.

The team didnt sign him to a 4 yr extension to be a backup or to play LB. Without any setbacks, Church is the one guy you can count on to be playing safety for the Cowboys.

It's already been said that he's ahead of schedule on his rehab.

As for cutting Sensabaugh, he's average. Plays at a replacement level. Shouldn't be too hard to replace, he's not a playmaker, he gets broken down in space, and isn't anything special against the run. Any safety taken in the first 2 rounds could battle with Matt Johnson to give close to equal production, if not better, than what Sensabaugh will provide.

Cut the fat. Move on. It's what good teams do.

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Probably moved to LB in this defense? That's a joke right?

This defense is much better suited for Church than Rob Ryan's and Church was already the best safety on the team last year.

The team didnt sign him to a 4 yr extension to be a backup or to play LB. Without any setbacks, Church is the one guy you can count on to be playing safety for the Cowboys.

It's already been said that he's ahead of schedule on his rehab.

As for cutting Sensabaugh, he's average. Plays at a replacement level. Shouldn't be too hard to replace, he's not a playmaker, he gets broken down in space, and isn't anything special against the run. Any safety taken in the first 2 rounds could battle with Matt Johnson to give close to equal production, if not better, than what Sensabaugh will provide.

Cut the fat. Move on. It's what good teams do.
I'm with you on cutting Sensy. Sensy is a gutty tough guy that has played through a lot of injuries, but he is average. I'd rather see what Matt Johnson would do or else draf someone in rounds 2-4 to compete.
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Probably moved to LB in this defense? That's a joke right?

This defense is much better suited for Church than Rob Ryan's and Church was already the best safety on the team last year.

The team didnt sign him to a 4 yr extension to be a backup or to play LB. Without any setbacks, Church is the one guy you can count on to be playing safety for the Cowboys.

It's already been said that he's ahead of schedule on his rehab.

As for cutting Sensabaugh, he's average. Plays at a replacement level. Shouldn't be too hard to replace, he's not a playmaker, he gets broken down in space, and isn't anything special against the run. Any safety taken in the first 2 rounds could battle with Matt Johnson to give close to equal production, if not better, than what Sensabaugh will provide.

Cut the fat. Move on. It's what good teams do.
not a joke at all, church very well could be moved to weakside linebacker, heck the cowboys used to use as cover linebacker in their dime packages.

you eat up all that stuff about him ahead of schedule, but he was a 4.7 guy before and guys don't come off that injury and get faster

matt johnson has never even played in an nfl game, it would be silly to pencil him in as a starter especially considering he didn't get very many reps in practice because of injuries and he was already trying to make the jump from a low level of competition.

you may not like sensabaugh, but take a look around the league there are a lot worse safeties than sensabaugh that starting. philly would kill to have someone like sensabaugh.

starting 2 inexperienced players at safety is signing a death warrant to your defense in the nfl
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not a joke at all, church very well could be moved to weakside linebacker, heck the cowboys used to use as cover linebacker in their dime packages.

you eat up all that stuff about him ahead of schedule, but he was a 4.7 guy before and guys don't come off that injury and get faster

matt johnson has never even played in an nfl game, it would be silly to pencil him in as a starter especially considering he didn't get very many reps in practice because of injuries and he was already trying to make the jump from a low level of competition.

you may not like sensabaugh, but take a look around the league there are a lot worse safeties than sensabaugh that starting. philly would kill to have someone like sensabaugh.

starting 2 inexperienced players at safety is signing a death warrant to your defense in the nfl

Bruce Carter is perfect fit for WLB. The team wouldn't move him to SLB to try and convert a safety to LB. that particular conversion is something you see in college when a guy continues to put on weight. I can't think of 1 successful example of an NFL safety moving to LB.

I'm not saying Matt Johnson is the answer. In fact, I'm skeptical. But when you have a guy like Sensabaugh playing you're hindering the growth of the team. When a player offers you NOTHING other than experience, it's time to try someone with more upside.

That may be Johnson, it may be a rookie, but he just has to go. I'd rather start Church & any of the top 5 safety prospects this year than Sensabaugh. Keeping him in the lineup is similar to when we refused to promote Kevin Burnett over Bradie James & Whoever even though he had more talent and upside than any of them. It's just stupid.

Or refusing to give Hatcher reps over Spears. That didnt happen until Rob Ryan came in and cut the ********.

Injuries aren't what they used to be. Guys are getting treatments these days that I doubt are legal and coming back good as new. A torn triceps at the beginning of the season would land you on IR 3-4 years ago. Now Ray Lewis comes back in 7 weeks?

Ruptured Achilles and Suggs is back for a few tune up games before playoffs?

Adrian Peterson has his best season ever as a pro.

RG3 is already running. He just tore his ACL how many weeks ago?

If Church is ahead of schedule, that can only be positive. The teams investment in him makes me think they aren't too concerned either.
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I thought this was interesting from Archer:

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I wonder if people realize how well Tony Romo is thought of in the NFL. Yes, he will put the ball up for grabs too much for the liking of some of you, but one AFC offensive coordinator said he could see Romo as the highest-paid player in football if he were on the open market.
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Just to get my thoughts out. I think the team is invested in Church...but they have mentioned a few times that they like Matt Johnson as a SS. He might be the backup insurance possibility. I wouldn't be surprised to see us target a safety at 18 the more the draft is falling...depening on the DL on the board and the depth of the OL....Might be easier to get 2 starters going safety first since top 3 will likely be gone by time our 2nd comes around. I'm confident we can get a starter on the OL in round 2.
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Keep in mind the "investment" in Church would make him one of the lowest paid starting SS's in the league. He's getting paid like a rotational player that will play special teams.

Lets not pretend his contract is an albatross and that the money will guarantee him the starting role even if he is outperformed.

As far as Johnson he's rangy enough to play either role but his hitting ability makes him more of a candidate for SS I agree. We need an Earl Thomas playing centerfield.
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Many teams are in salary cap trouble heading into the 2013 offseason and the Dallas Cowboys happen to be one of those teams with bad contracts that are looking to save money and get under the cap. With the new league year beginning on March 12, the team is wasting no time getting things rolling.
First up was star linebacker DeMarcus Ware.
The Cowboys converted $5 million of Ware’s 2013 base salary into a signing bonus in a move that will save the team $4 million against the salary cap, per ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
Despite the restructuring of Ware’s deal, the team will move on down the line and look to restructure another dozen contracts before the start of the new league year.
The deals that could be reworked include the likes of wide receiver Miles Austin, cornerback Brandon Carr, offensive lineman Doug Free, guard Nate Livings, quarterback Kyle Orton, cornerback Orlando Scandrick and tight end Jason Witten.
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Just to get my thoughts out. I think the team is invested in Church...but they have mentioned a few times that they like Matt Johnson as a SS. He might be the backup insurance possibility. I wouldn't be surprised to see us target a safety at 18 the more the draft is falling...depening on the DL on the board and the depth of the OL....Might be easier to get 2 starters going safety first since top 3 will likely be gone by time our 2nd comes around. I'm confident we can get a starter on the OL in round 2.
I feel the same way. It's a very deep class for the interior line. Plenty of guys will be around in the 2nd and 3rd round that can be starters.

The drop off after the top 3 safeties is pretty substantial to me, meaning if not at 18, I'd rather wait until the 3rd or 4th to take a flier on a guy.

Names like Eric Reid will likely be around for our 2nd pick but they don't offer the scheme and position versatility that the top 3 guys do. Swearinger and Rambo will be there, but their inconsistencies make them risks.

Likewise, the only DT I'd be interested in in the 2nd round is short. Assuming the top 3 are off the board by 18, safety seems like the position where the value and talent will be at.
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Keep in mind the "investment" in Church would make him one of the lowest paid starting SS's in the league. He's getting paid like a rotational player that will play special teams.

Lets not pretend his contract is an albatross and that the money will guarantee him the starting role even if he is outperformed.

As far as Johnson he's rangy enough to play either role but his hitting ability makes him more of a candidate for SS I agree. We need an Earl Thomas playing centerfield.
He's a "Garrett guy" -- high effort, self made, heady. I believe the team signed him to the extension when they did hoping to lock up a guy for less than the market value he'll eventually set for himself.

Again, I'm just speculating based off what I've read and heard, but they seem to be higher on Church than any other safety on the roster.

And although it isn't top starter money, it isn't back up money or special teams money either. It's "we can get 2-3 years of starting play out of you on the cheap" money, IMO.
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More contract restructuring underway.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...ng-deal-source

Wittten- Saved $3.65
Carr- Saved $10.8
Livings- Saved $.74

These moves along with Ware yesterday have saved us roughly $18mi. Rumors are we've approached Ratliff and Scandrik as well. If we can get those 2 done and a new deal for Romo, we should be sitting in a solid spot in order to make a few moves in FA. I don't see us making a splash, but some solid moves.
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LP Ladoucuer has officially signed 5yr deal .. Deal is worth around $4 million as total package
Best long snapper in the league.

Bernie also did a restructure.

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Doing my own calculations (so forgive me if they are a bit off) using Spotrac's numbers, Bernadeau's original deal was four years, $11.5 million with a $3.25m signing bonus. His 2013 base salary was set to be $2.25m, and the five-year vet minimum is $715k. If $1.535 million is spread out over three years as a new proration, Bernie's new cap hit would be approximately $2 million, or savings of $1 million.
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So to summarize, Dallas has saved $10.5 million in Carr's restructure, $3.65 million in Witten's new deal, $1 million in Bernadeau's new deal and $700k in Livings new deal. That's a total of over $15 million in cap space added to the $4 million from Ware's restructure yesterday. The team was reportedly $19 million over the proposed cap (if $123m) and has knocked it down to around $500k (figuring LP costs ~$1m first year) with the Romo extension card still to play.

Not bad, Stephen and Jerry, not bad at all.
Not sure if the above counted the "cap space pass" we did from having cap room at the end of last year.
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Bernie also did a restructure.



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Not sure if the above counted the "cap space pass" we did from having cap room at the end of last year.
I read Carr's savings was over $13mi alone.
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More contract restructuring underway.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...ng-deal-source

Wittten- Saved $3.65
Carr- Saved $10.8
Livings- Saved $.74

These moves along with Ware yesterday have saved us roughly $18mi. Rumors are we've approached Ratliff and Scandrik as well. If we can get those 2 done and a new deal for Romo, we should be sitting in a solid spot in order to make a few moves in FA. I don't see us making a splash, but some solid moves.

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Well that puts the team under the cap. Looks like more moves to come including decisions on Free,Connor, and Sensy along with the extension of Romo. Should have enough room for the draft class and some lower level Free agents toward the end of free agency ( especially if Free is designated a June 1st cut).
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Sweet. That makes the offseason mocks a lot easier now that we don't have to decide whether or not to cut Miles Austin :D


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I read Carr's savings was over $13mi alone.
Nah. He went from 14.3 million base to 0.715 million after the restructure but you have to factor in his initial prorated signing bonus (2 million) and the now "MISC" restructure bonus of 2.717 million.

0.715
2.000
2.717

5.432 million cap hit for 2013.

Initially it was 16.3 million cap hit (14.3 BASE + 2.0 SIGNING) so reduction saved us ~10.8 million. Not sure if there is a hidden bonus not reported on spotrac or just a misprint on the initial quote stating 10.5 million in savings.
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Well that puts the team under the cap. Looks like more moves to come including decisions on Free,Connor, and Sensy along with the extension of Romo. Should have enough room for the draft class and some lower level Free agents toward the end of free agency ( especially if Free is designated a June 1st cut).
I'd cut all 3 of those losers.

Who was the Ok state LB we had again? I feel like he could compete at SLB but I'm not even seeing him on the team roster. Orie something? Did we cut him?
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I'd cut all 3 of those losers.

Who was the Ok state LB we had again? I feel like he could compete at SLB but I'm not even seeing him on the team roster. Orie something? Did we cut him?
Orie Lemon, was one of the last cuts but he is on the practice squad I think.
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