Professional Wrestling Thread

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by Splat

I have pretty much gave up on Bryan getting pushed. I will be pretty shocked if he doesn't cash in his MITB or lose it some how before WM.

I still have some faith left, but the booking of him has been the worst thing I've ever seen since he won MITB. I honestly don't remember him winning any non Superstars match, except a DQ against Hunicara. It's embarrassing.

[Splat]

Daniel Bryan lost again shocker.

[bearsfan_51]

Why does it matter who wins and loses?

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Why does it matter who wins and loses?

It doesn't really, but they are doing the absolute worst job of building him up for a possible championship.

[bearsfan_51]

Well, to be fair, they have 5 months.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Well, to be fair, they have 5 months.

And it's been 4 months since he won it and been made to look like an absolute ass. I was fine when he put over Wade, but they did absolutely nothing with Wade after that. Following that, they used him as a tool to get the dull ass Sin Cara feud over, and now he just gets some random wins over guys like Baretta and Heath Slater on Superstars and once in a great while gets a jobbing experience on Smackdown.

[bearsfan_51]

That's fine, but I think the criticism should be that they aren't putting him in any programs, not that they aren't giving him meaningless wins on Smackdown.

I remember loving guys like Mr. Perfect, Jake Roberts, and Rick Rude in the 80's because they had great character development and interesting feuds. I don't remember specifically if they won any of their matches.

[bearsfan_51]

To use a SABR analogy, wins and losses in wrestling are about as meaningful as wins and losses for a pitcher in baseball.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

That's fine, but I think the criticism should be that they aren't putting him in any programs, not that they aren't giving him meaningless wins on Smackdown.

I remember loving guys like Mr. Perfect, Jake Roberts, and Rick Rude in the 80's because they had great character development and interesting feuds. I don't remember specifically if they won any of their matches.

The thing with those guys is they had the consistently credible mic work to make the crowd buy into them, no matter what. It's the same thing with Punk earlier this year, but Bryan really needs a win occasionally to make him look a little more credible (as well as a program obviously). That's the thing Bryan is best at, ring work, and he's not getting a chance to show it at all or get people behind him.

That's sort of the difference between Raw and Smackdown, which has been the opposite in the past. Outside of Cody, they are not building the midcard at all on Smackdown (Bryan, Wade, Zeke, Gabriel, etc.).

[bearsfan_51]

Mark Henry was mid-card until they put the strap on him. Ditto Christian.

[Brodeur]

Christian was a part of the ADR/Edge feud, and just was inserted right into Edge's place when his career was ended. Henry destroyed Kane and Show, and has the whole unbelievable strength to look like a threat at any moment. I'm not ruling out positive development for Bryan, but he needs to look like a Benoit style threat very very soon if he's getting a title match at Mania.

[WMD]

I just wish Bryan would snap sometime and completely destroy Michael Cole.

[Splat]

WWE has officially added Mick Foley to the talent listing for the November 14th edition of Raw Supershow.

[MidwestJimmy]

Anybody else done following TNA, or whatever it's called? Kurt Angle goes down after one move like an 80s jobber? I know he was hurt for real before the match, but still. And Cowboy James Storm is their champion? Whose booking down there in Orlando, Peggy from the credit card commercials? I used to wish "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" wasn't opposite TNA, but now I don't care that it is.

[Brodeur]

James Storm is pretty awesome though. The only problem is the Bobby Roode fiasco that took place before it.........and Hogan being Hogan.

[bearsfan_51]

I don't like Storm (mostly for those *** cowboy pictures he took), but it sets up an obvious feud with he and Roode, which should be interesting.

However, you're just NOW tired of the TNA booking? Really?

[Splat]

TNA has been unwatchable for awhile now.

[WMD]

Big Show + Mark Henry = surprisingly good results.

That's two pretty good matches in a row for them.

[LTgiants]

The Lesnar plex was better.

[Splat]

I love that both Henry and Del Rio left with their titles. I don't mind Miz and Truth going over HHH and Punk but of course it was Punk that was pinned.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

I don't like Storm (mostly for those *** cowboy pictures he took), but it sets up an obvious feud with he and Roode, which should be interesting.

However, you're just NOW tired of the TNA booking? Really?

He was okay with Pope, Wolfe (pre whatever disease he has), Joe, and Monty Brown getting forced down to push ****** guys, BUT THIS STOPS NOW.

[Splat]

I don't give a crap what is trending on twitter right now Cole.

[LTgiants]

Lol they have been really over doing with the twitter stuff lately.

[bearsfan_51]

There was a good article on Grantland about that. The WWE takes anything remotely interesting and crushes it with their corporate infrastructure. I haven't actually watched a WWE show in months because it's so beyond predictable.

[Splat]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

There was a good article on Grantland about that. The WWE takes anything remotely interesting and crushes it with their corporate infrastructure. I haven't actually watched a WWE show in months because it's so beyond predictable.

I DVR both Raw and SD and just watch the parts I care about.