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Old 08-18-2013, 11:23 PM    (permalink
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Brock/Punk ruled, Bryan/Cena ruled, Christian/Del Rio was very good, I like Orton, I'm happy Bryan won the title period, I'm interested in seeing where things are headed, and Big E Langston is amazing.
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Anytime someone gets red hot Punk,Bryan ect HHH has to get some of that spot light...
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Anytime someone gets red hot Punk,Bryan ect HHH has to get some of that spot light...
notice how you could only list 2 guys before adding that etc? It's because you're wrong
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So Triple H doesn't have a history of burying guys when he was more active?

I don't have a problem with last night but don't act like Triple H doesn't have a history of burying people and wanting the spot light.
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notice how you could only list 2 guys before adding that etc? It's because you're wrong
You want another one? Brock Lesnar... He comes hack and HHH had to get involved.
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Bryan better win at Night of Champions
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Bryan was sooooooo made last night. Amazing show, perfect night for Bryan. First, he beats Cena clean. Now, he's the main protagonist against newly heel Haitch/Orton with his sympathy level up 10000000x what it was because people take the HHH bait every single time. He got his huge moment, now he's back in the perfect role of the babyface chasing the title. So much more interesting than a hundred babyface title defenses.

Trips is a rockstar, yo

Oh, and that ****** Lesnar/Punk match. So good.

Anyone thats actually angry over what happened makes me happy. CORPORATE EVOUTION~!
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Orton has to be wearing a suit tonight, right?
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:51 AM    (permalink
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Bryan was sooooooo made last night. Amazing show, perfect night for Bryan. First, he beats Cena clean. Now, he's the main protagonist against newly heel Haitch/Orton with his sympathy level up 10000000x what it was because people take the HHH bait every single time. He got his huge moment, now he's back in the perfect role of the babyface chasing the title. So much more interesting than a hundred babyface title defenses.

Trips is a rockstar, yo
I don't always agree with commie, but this. HHH helped make Bryan last night and anyone that doesn't see that is either way too much of a mark and/or a Daniel Bryan fanboy.

Was Vince McMahon stealing the spotlight from SCSA in his prime? How exactly do you build a storyline without a main protagonist? Let's say Bryan wins the title and nothing else happened last night. Cena is going on the shelf for at least a little while, so who is his next rival without an Orton heel turn and a major storyline development?
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But the thing is, Vince has always been able to make himself look like an utter joke. Triple H has been kept stronger than almost anyone for so, so long that it isn't even remotely in the same ball park.
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Hopefully this leads to Vince getting the only guy that can "knock some sense into him" in Shawn Michaels at WM30.
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But the thing is, Vince has always been able to make himself look like an utter joke. Triple H has been kept stronger than almost anyone for so, so long that it isn't even remotely in the same ball park.
That's a fair point, and if this develops into HHH burying Bryan in the ring I'll be the first to say I was wrong, but I don't see that happening.

This will hopefully primarily be about Orton-Bryan (who have already proven they can put on a hell of a match), with the odds additionally stacked against Bryan because of the corporate power behind him. That is a tremendous storyline.


On the other hand, you compared this to Punk 2011 and I don't think that's in the same ballpark either. The biggest problem in 2011 was the introduction of Kevin Nash, who was so far out of his game that it ****** the whole thing up. There was also a severely more limited roster in 2011 which limited the amount of worthwhile feuds that Punk could be involved in. They really tried with ADR, but for whatever reason he comes off as too generic to generate a ton of heat (which is too bad because I think he's supremely talented). Orton is perfect for this role, and Orton-Bryan has the potential to be much better than Cena-Punk, and to last much longer.
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So.. reform Evolution with Triple H, Orton, Wade Barrett, and... Ryback? Big E? BO DALLAS?
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Ya they would probably take Ryback as the enforcer since Sheamus is hurt.
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Haitch as Flair, Orton as Haitch, Ryback as Batista, no idea who would be the new Orton though. Need a blue chip type prospect. I'd say Drew but he's been booked like ass forever. Wade might work but I dont know. They need Magnus or something. Someone young that you can look at and see as a WM main eventer in 5 years.

Ryback being added would be great though, because they clearly have NOTHING for him right now. He's just doing Bully Ray impersonations in catering.
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So Triple H doesn't have a history of burying guys when he was more active?

I don't have a problem with last night but don't act like Triple H doesn't have a history of burying people and wanting the spot light.
He does, but the IWC vastly over exaggerates it
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Bryan was sooooooo made last night. Amazing show, perfect night for Bryan. First, he beats Cena clean. Now, he's the main protagonist against newly heel Haitch/Orton with his sympathy level up 10000000x what it was because people take the HHH bait every single time. He got his huge moment, now he's back in the perfect role of the babyface chasing the title. So much more interesting than a hundred babyface title defenses.

Trips is a rockstar, yo

Oh, and that ****** Lesnar/Punk match. So good.

Anyone thats actually angry over what happened makes me happy. CORPORATE EVOUTION~!
This guy gets it. Bryan is the next babyface hero. Before last night who was the top heel? Who was THE guy to root against? Del Rio? Heyman? NOBODY. Bryan is in perfect position to become a full blown superstar. If it's possible for him to get any more over, he will
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So we can't be pissed off at WWE if we think they have the wrong guy win or lose a match? I usually like the majority of what WWE does, but I refuse to be their symbolic backstage 1980s hair band groupie with legs fully spread.

I like Orton turning heel but not HHH turning. I was looking forward to a long feud between Mr. McMahon and HHH, but now they are on the same side (but Vince will probably fade out again).

However, Orton as the proper corporate champion vs. Bryan will probably be very solid. Hopefully Vince will be on tonight with the Apex Predetor and point out how Orton is what a WWE champion is supposed to look like because he's not short and doesn't have a big beard.

Do you think Cole, Lawler, and JBL aren't using the term "bully" to describe Ryback because of WWE's anti-bullying campaign? I'm tired of Cole saying "throwing his weight around".

Kane is old and slow. He needs to hang up the boots and do some coaching or script writing, or something.

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So we can't be pissed off at WWE if we think they have the wrong guy win or lose a match?
You can if you want to pretend like it matters, sure.
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Id prefer Big E be by himself so all of his weird eccentricities that be highlighted. Dude is hilarious and awesome, but being the 3rd/4th guy of a group would probably end up hiding that.
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