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Old 05-14-2007, 07:14 PM    (permalink
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It doesnt matter if Anthony Gonzalez is a rookie or not, just having Harrison and Wayne makes it the best 3 in the league.
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It doesnt matter if Anthony Gonzalez is a rookie or not, just having Harrison and Wayne makes it the best 3 in the league.
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The Bengals, Cardinals and Colts are too top heavy to not be at the top of the list.

The Lions should be there with time.
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I think Detroit will be #1 in a year or two. Calvin Johnson will probably turn out to be one of the 5 best at his position, while Roy Williams is already in the conversation for the top 10 WRs at least. Oh yeah, and Mike Furrey led the league in catches last year.
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I think Detroit will be #1 in a year or two. Calvin Johnson will probably turn out to be one of the 5 best at his position, while Roy Williams is already in the conversation for the top 10 WRs at least. Oh yeah, and Mike Furrey led the league in catches last year.
Calvin Johnson could be busted for Cocaine... lose a leg.. With potential you have to realize that until Players have come out on the field and played and at least flashed that potential in the pro's it's hard to rank them above proven guys.
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The Ravens have a pretty solid group with

Mark Clayton, Demetrius Williams & Derrick Mason
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I think we have at least a top 3-5 combo with Boldin, Fitzgerald, and Johnson.
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I'm not saying this just because I'm a homer or something....but it's definitely the Colts. Reggie Wayne would be a #1 option receiver on nearly any other team, and Marvin Harrison is probably the 2nd best WR of all time, right behind Jerry Rice. Plus, having Peyton Manning throwing to you only makes you that much better, just like a good O-Line is part of the equation in determining who has the best running game.

The Rams are in 2nd place, Cardinals probably in 3rd....Bengals 4th, Pats 5th (assuming their acquisitions work out, and even then, they can't be justified as higher than #3 because they haven't been in the system long and learned to play with each other).

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yah...Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Rosie O'Donnell would be the best three wide reciever set in the league.
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Overall solidness it's the Rams. Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, and Drew Bennett are great options. Drew Bennett is an excellent #2 and a borderline #1 receiver. Bruce is a good option as a #2 receiver as well.

Most top end talent is the Cardinals Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. End the discussion right there. If I could have any WR corps from any team it would be from the Cardinals.
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Wow...the fact that the Cardinals were left off of your list complete just shows how irrelevant this is. Unbelievable, as far as Harrison and Wayne go...yeah...they're great...but Boldin / Fitzgerald > both of them. Harrison WAS better, but as the younger guys are developing beyond him, and him not getting any better than he was, I think Boldin and Fitz have passed him up. Don't get me wrong, I'd still consider Marvin Harrison in the top 5 or 10 but Wayne isn't on my list for top 10 WRs in the NFL. He can get there, but he's not there yet. So to say they are both top 10 is insane. Boldin and Fitz are up there and are both in the top 10 for sure, considering when both were healthy they led the league in receptions lol.

So, for once, the Cardinal's get a first place vote for something.

#1 WR combo / tandem = Arizona Cardinals
Wow...your overrating of the Cardinals' WRs is hilarious. Not just Boldin, not just Fitz, but BOTH Boldin AND Fitz are better than Marvin? That's just laughable. Also, it'd be tough to argue Reggie Wayne not being a Top 10 NFL WR based on his production over the last 3 years (and sadly, he's only garnered one pro bowl selection for it), but you can try if you'd like. Oh, and considering you think both Fitz AND Boldin are better than Marvin (again, laughable), I'd say using the "he plays across from Marvin" argument doesn't really help your cause.

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Henry is probably the best 3rd receiver on any team right now, but for the colts offense Gonzalez fits so perfect there and might get right around 1000 yards as a rookie along with Harrison and Wayne since Indy lost Rhodes and probably won't be running as much this year. You gotta think that Indy is gonna spread it out with Harrison, Wayne, Gonzo, and Clark and get Manning 4500 yard and 30+ Tds again this year. Crazy good offense, too bad their defense is so poor (at least without Bob Sanders and Corey Simon it is anyway)
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I think any offensive player that plays for the Colts is going to look good. If you look at all the offensive skill players that have played for the Colts recently, they've all put up good stats. Peyton Manning, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, Brandon Stokely and even Ben Utecht have all looked good because of the line or because of one another. It seems like no matter who plays for the offensive side for the Colts now, they're going to be good.
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Wow...your overrating of the Cardinals' WRs is hilarious. Not just Boldin, not just Fitz, but BOTH Boldin AND Fitz are better than Marvin? That's just laughable. Also, it'd be tough to argue Reggie Wayne not being a Top 10 NFL WR based on his production over the last 3 years (and sadly, he's only garnered one pro bowl selection for it), but you can try if you'd like. Oh, and considering you think both Fitz AND Boldin are better than Marvin (again, laughable), I'd say using the "he plays across from Marvin" argument doesn't really help your cause.



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At this point I would say Larry Fitzgerald is better than Marvin. Marvin is starting to slow down, and I bet that it will start to show this season. Larry Fitz while he doesn't have burner speed has amazing hands, jumps well, and runs great routes. He does everything very well, and is just entering his prime. Anquan Boldin while being a great receiver is also a great blocker, and may not be better at this point, but by the end of the season, he too may have eclipsed Marvin. Marvin is still a great player, but he isn't what he once was.
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I skimmed some of the pages in this thread, and the hawks have received no mention.

Deion Branch/Nate Burleson/DJ Hackett
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could anybody on this board honestly say if they could choose a 3 way receiving threat for any one game it would not be the colts? arguments could be made for the cards and bengals but harrisson and wayne have proved themselves to be top 7-8 receivers in the nfl for a long time now
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At this point I would say Larry Fitzgerald is better than Marvin. Marvin is starting to slow down, and I bet that it will start to show this season. Larry Fitz while he doesn't have burner speed has amazing hands, jumps well, and runs great routes. He does everything very well, and is just entering his prime. Anquan Boldin while being a great receiver is also a great blocker, and may not be better at this point, but by the end of the season, he too may have eclipsed Marvin. Marvin is still a great player, but he isn't what he once was.
that is showing absolute ignorance and kinda proving you dont actually see the colts play that often, just cause marvin is 34-35 doesnt mean he is slowing down, you coudl argue he looks after himsefl better then anyone in the nfl and there is no reason for him to slow down this year at all
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Seahawks getting no love


Deon Branch --> Nate Burleson --> DJ Hackett/Bobby Engram

Not top 5 but better than some of the teams I saw in the top 10
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OK, 2006 NFL season stats

Receiving yards
1. Chad Johnson - 1369 yards
2. Marvin Harrison - 1366 yards
3. Reggie Wayne - 1310 yards
3. Roy Williams - 1310 yards
5. Donald Driver - 1295 yards

Recieving TDs
1. Terrell Owens - 13
2. Marvin Harrison - 12
3. Tory Holt - 10
3. Plexico Burress - 10
3. Darrell Jackson - 10
6. Reggie Wayne - 9
6. Chris Henry - 9
6. T.J. Houshmanzadeh - 9

Hmmm.... I think I'll take Harrison and Wayne, doesn't look like Harrison is slowing down in the least. And before someone says that Manning makes Harrison and Wayne, Harrison was good before Manning, the Bengals have Carson Palmer (who is REAL good too), and it wouldn't be fair to say Manning is just good because of his recievers (as Pats fans have always done in the past) and now switch and say that Manning's recievers are just good because of Manning.

But easily some one could make the case that the Cards, Colts, and Bengals are in a 3 way tie for first, because they are real close and you can't really analyze the players without taking them out of their offensive systems, which we can't do.
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Not top 5 but better than some of the teams I saw in the top 10

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Deon Branch ---> D.J. Hackett --> Nate Burleson --> Bobby Engram

We'll see how Branch and Burleson do with a full offseason to learn the offense and get in sync with Matt.

Hackett as a starting receiver = STAR. This man is going to be great.
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CHris Henry was essentiall a number 2 reciever playing in the slot. he is the best number 3 on any team. The bengals have a 2 deep threats and a preimier possesion guy.

The colts would be better if it was still stokley in the slot, but there is a rookie there. you can't trust rookies at skill positions. Most arguments on here are "hes in the COlts, he will be great". Mind you know the COts first rounders pan out 9/10 times but we dont know if this man is going to work at all.

id rank them

1. Bengals
2. Cardinals
3. Colts

^BUT ALL ARE VERY CLOSE, AND IM TAKING THEM FROM TOP TO BOTTOM"

4. Rams
5. IDK prolly the Patriots.
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The colts would be better if it was still stokley in the slot, but there is a rookie there. you can't trust rookies at skill positions.
So we can consider the Colts the best 3 WR tandem after next season?

Ok, lets consider Gonzalez is a bust (not gonna happen but a "what if"), so Dallas Clark plays the slot. I'll take Harrison, Wayne, and Clark over any other 3 WR set in the league.

Chris Henry is a good reciever, but his conduct needs to change and I'd take Dallas Clark over him even as a WR. I think the WRs the Bengals have suit Palmer better (deep ball), and the WRs the Colts have suit Manning better (excellent route runners), so it really comes down to your preference of which system you like better.

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First, of course, Calvin, the egocentric disruptive player that he is would be busted for something as dumb as coca´ne.
Second, you knock on CJ but if you looked closely you'd see Meachem and Gonzalez are also taken into equasions.
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iloxygenil hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.iloxygenil hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
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Look, I know that Marvin still had great production but look how often they were throwing. That's fine, and there's no knock on Reggie, I just think that he's always against a #2 corner and it's sad to think that if he was seeing doubles (which no one on that team does because it's too balanced) that he'd be shut down. If Marvin gets hurt or whatever it's going to be tough for them. I think Reggie is a fine #2 but he's yet to prove he can handle being a #1. His production is out of this world because their offense is insane, I think there are quite a few WRs you could plug in in his place and do just as well as he is.

I really think Marvin only had a couple games last season that really boosted his stats...I mean he had a 4 TD game didn't he? You can't take that away from him because he did it, but that really moves you up the stats column. Of course I didn't mind because he was on my fantasy team, but he just doesn't seem to be as consistent as he once was to me. Not that he's not catching the ball, I dunno...maybe I'm wrong, I just watch stat lines for the Colts, not the games, that was just the feeling I got.
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