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Old 06-15-2009, 04:20 PM    (permalink
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Who is in & out list. Mills is in and Calathes to Greece.

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This was a surprise because he is a second round talent right now that doesnt have the guarantee of a contract. So will be interesting to see where he actually goes in the NBA draft.
With that said I've always said that his stock is the highest it will ever be right now. He will always be an undersized 2 guard but with the ridiculous talent coming to UK his scoring is guaranteed to dip a good amount. I think Patterson has a chance to improve his stock but with Meeks I think it was a fine choice to stay in the draft. He will find a team in the late 1-mid 2nd area.

Derrick Brown should have went back to school. He has yet to put it all together but could be a mid first rounder based off of athleticism and potential. Brandan Costner and Austin Daye were also dumb to declare.
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I have spent the last several hours weeping.

With that said, for Jodie's sake... I don't blame him. He could've improved his efficiency had he come back and played for a national title however his stock can only improve so much over one year. Now he's getting paid to work on his game for longer hours and not have to deal with class/homework.

He said he would only go if he got a 1st round guarantee, not sure if he just wanted to stay or he actually got that guarantee. If I had to put money on a team taking him in the 1st, I'd go with Chicago.

Now our starting lineup:

PG - John Wall
SG - Darnell Dodson
Wing - Darius Miller
PF - Patrick Patterson
C - DeMarcus Cousins

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Daniel Orton
Eric Bledsoe
Jon Hood

A lot of youth and a little light on perimeter shooting. Should be ranked in the 6-12 range I'd think.
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Just wanted to throw out there that when you said first round guarantee the first team that came to mind was Chicago, before I got to you saying your money would be on Chicago. Would be an interesting fit there, particularly if they plan on going for a big at 16.
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are kentucky fans worried about cal getting the program in trouble???

hes had to vacate 1 final four apperance, and it's likely he could vacate another one
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If a HS prospect has someone take their SAT for them, that's pretty hard for the HC at their college to get a read on. I mean, at Simeon cheating was apparently going around to all the players... Not just Rose.

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It looks like Florida is going to land Momo Jones. This is an impressive class, it's just supremely outdone by Kentucky's. Florida should actually be a tournament team this year, but not much more.
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Revised top 25

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I know we're not the deepest team...but wow....25? Dyson and Robinson are returning for their 4th year as starters. Kemba Walker should be one of the best PGs in the nation. Gavin Edwards is a serviceable big. After that we have some question marks but those 4 should make us a competitive team...definitely top 20 material.
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Yeah etk I was surprirsed at that ranking as well. Yall have some good recruits coming in, and maybe if Majok sticks around top 15 isn't a stretch.
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Cal being higher than UW is a joke. We won the Pac-10 and only lost Jonny B and Justin Dentmon, while keeping the Pac-10 Freshman of the year and Freshman all american Isaiah Thomas and bringing in the #2 PG in the nation in Abdul Gaddy, while keeping gameoverton as a spark plug off the bench and getting some freshmen to deepen our frontcourt. Top 10 please.
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Elliot Williams leaving Duke

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Yeah etk I was surprirsed at that ranking as well. Yall have some good recruits coming in, and maybe if Majok sticks around top 15 isn't a stretch.
Majok won't be able to play until mid-December. Here's what Coach Calhoun had to say:

"He's not going to go into the draft, but I don't know what, beyond that, he'll do. I talked to him [Friday]. He's going to do whatever he feels he needs to do. It's not much more complex than that. I don't think he'll go home. I think it's either [UConn] or Europe. I'm not trying to [get a feel for which way he's leaning]. The other kids are coming to join our program. You have to want to join our program. And I think Ater does, but he has a lot of responsibilities."

Usually Final 4 teams get overrated heading into the next season...plus we're returning quite a few guys. Not sure what they're thinking with that ranking. It's funny cause they have Tulsa ranked 4 spots ahead of us when they're the team that's all excited because one of our scrubs is transferring there. And how is Villanova the 4th best team in the nation?
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Great recruting class along with two redshirts becoming eligible, and a lot of players back from last year's team. We'll see how it goes, probably overrated, but this team is considerably deeper and more talented than last year's. The lack of experience will hurt and probably cause us to drop some, but this is a very good team.
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Ha I wouldn't go so fast. Duke isn't going to be strong next year, but neither is carolina.
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Great recruting class along with two redshirts becoming eligible, and a lot of players back from last year's team. We'll see how it goes, probably overrated, but this team is considerably deeper and more talented than last year's. The lack of experience will hurt and probably cause us to drop some, but this is a very good team.
I agree, obviously as a 'Nova fan you would know best. I like Villanova to win the Big East. Jay Wright is quite the coach and Reynolds coming back is huge, veteran PG's are extremely important.

I think for all the strength the ACC and Big East had last year, they lose a step with all the players leaving.

Throwing out my early conference champs:

ACC: UNC - Talent can take you a long way. I really don't see Duke competing all that strongly.

Big East: Villanova - Many players coming off a Final Four along with one of the best recruiting classes. Syracuse losing Flynn makes this easy for me, WVU has a shot.

Big 10: Michigan State - Izzo gets it done, coming off a Final Four, they lose some players but retain one of the best coaches in the nation. Would not surprise me to see Purdue win it.

Big 12: Kansas - returns a team that succeeded with youth and has Bill Self as coach. I think Texas is close in talent but no matter what they do, Barnes isn't even close to Self.

Pac-10: Washington - Losing Brockman sucks but they're bringing in talent and they're always underrated. Cal and UCLA will compete to a degree but Washington is just better.

SEC: Kentucky - Ahh, my favorite part. We're clearly the most talented team. Tennessee and Mississippi State have talent however we have two players who could easily be SEC POY in Patterson and Wall.
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Right state, wrong team. :D
That was with me conceding that Michigan is clearly the best college basketball team ever assembled, I should've mentioned that ;)

Forgot to say, Gillispie couldn't even get the USC job... He's done, won't get a major job for another 5 years at least I'd say. I didn't realize how much of a mess it was here until all the stuff came out after he left.

Well, that and the pictures that kept showing up of him at bars. Apparently he'll only take pictures with college girls and insists on putting his beer down before a picture... lol... Smooth.

He's about to go the way of Larry Eustachy or Matt Doherty.
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That was with me conceding that Michigan is clearly the best college basketball team ever assembled, I should've mentioned that ;)
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I agree, obviously as a 'Nova fan you would know best. I like Villanova to win the Big East. Jay Wright is quite the coach and Reynolds coming back is huge, veteran PG's are extremely important.

I think for all the strength the ACC and Big East had last year, they lose a step with all the players leaving.

Big East: Villanova - Many players coming off a Final Four along with one of the best recruiting classes. Syracuse losing Flynn makes this easy for me, WVU has a shot.
I agree the Big East and ACC will both take steps back. Love Wright as a coach and am very happy he's sticking around, and our veteran guards will have to help. Scottie may or may not really want to be here but he's played a ton and has big game experience. His shooting ability should help and hopefully NBA people game him a couple tips. Fisher would put up great numbers if Reynolds wasn't holding down the PG spot, and in all honesty I think would be better there than Reynolds but there's no way Jay is putting Scottie off the ball. That had to be promised to him before he came back since he obviously needs to work on his PG skills to make it in the NBA, though I think he ends up in Europe. Redding is a fantastic glue guy, good defender and rebounder, nice athlete, can handle the ball some, slash, spot up, and improved a ton offensively last year. I think he could take a big step forward this year. Stokes can knock down threeballs like there's no tomorrow and is a decent rebounder but doesn't provide much else at this point and hasn't developed as expected. Throw in a very talented freshman PG in Wayns along with a long, athletic Dom Cheek and our guards are solid, talented, and experienced. All of the vets have proved they can play off the ball and everyone but Stokes can handle it and bring up the rock. Plus Redding, Stokes, and Cheek can play the three if need be.

The frontcourt is where we'll take a hit with experience but may improve the overall talent level. We lose starters from last season at the 3, 4, and 5 in Anderson, Clark, and Cunningham. We'll miss Dante the most, but he was really a 4 playing the 5 spot. A fantastic player and one we'll truly miss, but he would have been better served playing the 4, particularly in the Big East. Clark also should have been playing the 3 instead of the 4 and was almost a backup, Stokes and Fisher just about as much as Clark and Anderson. He's another nice glue guy but mostly contributed defensively and on the glass, and should be relatively easy to replace. Anderson was the leader of this team and a very good rebounder and defender and could stretch the defense. He'll be missed as well, my favorite player to watch since I've been at school, he got the most out of his talent and always went balls out. The only returning frontcourt guy was Antonio Pena, who showed signs early last season but really lost confidence. He's a nice athlete with better than average touch for a college big guy and an impressive post game, but has confidence issues and still is pretty raw. He'll probably start off the season starting but unless he improves much this summer he may not do much to reach his potential, since those confidence issues really hurt him late in the year and he played nowhere near as good as he could have.

Most of the additions will be in the frontcourt. Mouph Yarou is the first legit big guy we will have had in quite some time and should be able to handle the Big East. He's a good rebounder and shot blocker who can put the ball in the bucket and has really good footwork for a raw player. I'd imagine he starts from game 1 and really gives us a presence inside on both ends that we haven't had. Isaiah Armwood is a freaky athlete who can block some shots and score getting up and down the floor, plus he's got decent touch. Really raw at this point and I'm not sure how much he's going to contribute besides living off of his athleticism in transition and on defense right now, but should get some minutes as a 3/4 guy and could develop down the road. Maybe he surprises me and makes an impact this year too. Maurice Sutton who redshirted last year is basically Armwood but a 4/5 guy instead of a 3/4 guy, a little less range but taller and still decent touch and very nice length and athleticism for his size. Not sure he'll contribute outside of how I think Armwood's going to contribute, but again he could surprise and should play some. Redshirting I'm sure helped him. Should be a great shot blocker when he gets minutes though. Last is Taylor King, transfer from Duke who probably will play mostly 3 but may slide up to play the 4 some. He's a pretty good rebounder for his size (6'6) but his calling card is shooting range. He and Stokes should really be able to stretch the floor for the other guards to slash and for the post guys like Yarou to get some space inside.

Next year as opposed to this past year we have a lot more size, length, and athleticism, particularly in the frontcourt though Cheek adds some in the back court. We'll have 9 definite rotation guys, and really should have 11 as I think Armwood and Sutton will carve out roles. Last year only 8 guys saw the floor outside of garbage time, so depth should improve significantly. Should be exciting, I expect this team to run the floor a lot and improve significantly, particularly defensively, as the season goes on.

As far as the Big East goes, everybody on 'Cuse leaving obviously really hurts them, and I think they ultimately end up slightly above average. West Virginia has a very legitimate shot to win the conference and to be quite honest I'd rather not be the favorite because they have every bit the chance that we do and I'd rather have my team be underrated than overrated. UConn will be good as always and is underrated right now, as is Georgetown. I think Monroe has a good chance to be POTY in the conference next year, he's an animal. Seton Hall should surprise but I don't think they have much of a chance to win the conference, Notre Dame is another dark horse as well though they I think they're a little better than SHU at the moment. USF is improving but still probably a couple years away, and Providence and Cincy should be somewhere around middle of the back teams again, maybe a little better or a little worse. Rutgers, DePaul, and St. Johns should be bottom half teams again as usual. Louisville will obviously take a step back along with Marquette and Pitt after losing so many key players to graduation and early entry, but are such good programs they still absolutely have a shot to be top half teams. That's my take anyway.
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Great recruting class along with two redshirts becoming eligible, and a lot of players back from last year's team. We'll see how it goes, probably overrated, but this team is considerably deeper and more talented than last year's. The lack of experience will hurt and probably cause us to drop some, but this is a very good team.
Which qualifies Villanova as Big East favorites, but not a top-5 team.
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