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Old 10-31-2013, 08:50 AM    (permalink
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Because he didn't play the whole game....
Were they ever up by 103?
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Were they ever up by 103?
No, and they wouldn't have to be at any point in the game for that to be true.

It would be really, really hard to do but it's not impossible to believe each time he was in the game Michigan outscored the oppenent by like 20.
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I think it sums up this thread fairly succinctly.
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I meant he has nothing to say about UCLA landing a 5 star prospect.
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I meant he has nothing to say about UCLA landing a 5 star prospect.
I was going to mention this, but Alford is a giant bag of male reproductive organs, so I refuse to reference him in any sort of postive way.
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I meant he has nothing to say about UCLA landing a 5 star prospect.
Big whoop. Anybody can land a five star recruit at UCLA. He couldn't land one five star recruit at New Mexico. That's all you need to know.
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No, and they wouldn't have to be at any point in the game for that to be true.

It would be really, really hard to do but it's not impossible to believe each time he was in the game Michigan outscored the oppenent by like 20.
Michigan, at no point in the game, had to be up by 103 points. They had to outscore their opponent by 103 points total while Stauskas is in the game.

Let's say he started and played the first 15 minutes, and Michigan went up 55-15 (it is an exhibition, probably against some DIII team). Stauskas is then +40. He comes out for the last 5 minutes, half time is 65-25.

He starts the 2nd half, and in 10 minutes they go up 110-35 (45-10 in the 2nd half now). Stauskas gets another +35 and up to +75, comes out and the next 5 minutes the other team goes on a run vs. backups/walkons and makes it 120-60. Stauskas comes in for the final 5 minutes, they run the score back up to 160-70, Stauskas gets another +30 and ends up +105.

It is incredibly unlikely it shook out this way and even I find it hard to believe it was as high as 103, but do you see how it's possible and Michigan was never up by 103? Did I explain what "it" is sufficiently for you, or should I start over with a simple arithmetic lesson?

Michigan beat Concordia 117-44, so ya it's not all that unlikely.
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Michigan, at no point in the game, had to be up by 103 points. They had to outscore their opponent by 103 points total while Stauskas is in the game.

Let's say he started and played the first 15 minutes, and Michigan went up 55-15 (it is an exhibition, probably against some DIII team). Stauskas is then +40. He comes out for the last 5 minutes, half time is 65-25.

He starts the 2nd half, and in 10 minutes they go up 110-35 (45-10 in the 2nd half now). Stauskas gets another +35 and up to +75, comes out and the next 5 minutes the other team goes on a run vs. backups/walkons and makes it 120-60. Stauskas comes in for the final 5 minutes, they run the score back up to 160-70, Stauskas gets another +30 and ends up +105.

It is incredibly unlikely it shook out this way and even I find it hard to believe it was as high as 103, but do you see how it's possible and Michigan was never up by 103? Did I explain what "it" is sufficiently for you, or should I start over with a simple arithmetic lesson?

Michigan beat Concordia 117-44, so ya it's not all that unlikely.
Lol math is hard.

Edit: Guy Fieri probably could have even got that one right. I bet if he had to figure out gambling point spreads or something else useful in Vegas he could figure it out ;)
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None of you can mathematically explain or derive his +/- stat. The reason is because none of you can explain what it is.

hahahahaahahaha good god is this real life?
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PH, sorry I didn't mean to come off as a compelte dick.

But +/- is literally just taking the net points scored while player A is on the floor. And I had previously said Michigan never had to be up by 103 at any point for him to be +103 for the entire game, so it just rubbed me the wrong way when you say no one can explain it.
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I meant to come off as a complete dick.

You don't get to blame the people explaining it to you if you can't understand basic math concepts.

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Edit: Guy Fieri probably could have even got that one right. I bet if he had to figure out gambling point spreads or something else useful in Vegas he could figure it out ;)
How is irrelevant Wisconsin treating you?
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PH, sorry I didn't mean to come off as a compelte dick.

But +/- is literally just taking the net points scored while player A is on the floor. And I had previously said Michigan never had to be up by 103 at any point for him to be +103 for the entire game, so it just rubbed me the wrong way when you say no one can explain it.
I read what you explained earlier, and it's starting to make sense.
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That's a good comeback. Wisconsin's basketball program has actually done pretty well over the last decade but I'm sure you already you knew that.
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I meant to come off as a complete dick.

You don't get to blame the people explaining it to you if you can't understand basic math concepts.
I love this.

Our education system blows.
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That's a good comeback. Wisconsin's basketball program has actually done pretty well over the last decade but I'm sure you already you knew that.
Wisconsin basketball is irrelevant.
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I meant to come off as a complete dick.

You don't get to blame the people explaining it to you if you can't understand basic math concepts.
I understand math just fine. You're not dumb if you ask a question. You're dumb if you lack the ability to learn.
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Wisconsin basketball is irrelevant.
Wisconsin has won 72.6% of their games since Bo Ryan's arrival while UNLV won less than that last year and you think it's a big deal. Plus, Sam Dekker is better than anything your Rebels are trotting out this year.
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If Wisconsin is irrelevant what does that make UNLV?

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Wisconsin Sweet 16 appearances since 2000-6
UNLV tournament appearances since 2000- 7

If Wisconsin is irrelevant what does that make UNLV?
You conveniently forgot that UNLV has actually won a national championship.
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You conveniently forgot that UNLV has actually won a national championship.

Cool. So has LaSalle.
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