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Old 03-14-2014, 12:43 PM    (permalink
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Pretty much every analyst agrees with my statement. I'm not saying either are locks for the tournament, but looking at the whole season they definitely should be favored over most of those considered bubble teams right now.

Neither was a true bubble team coming into this weekend, and you don't go from a projected 8/9 seed to out of the tournament after 1 game.
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Pretty much every analyst agrees with my statement.
Good for them. At this point I think they are overrating both teams based on name recognition and prior expectations. Right now Iowa's resume is nothing special at all from top to bottom.

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Again, as a matter of perception? Perhaps not. Iowa is coasting on the expectations game. I think the idea of them being an 8 seed before the NW game is a joke.
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Good for them. At this point I think they are overrating both teams based on name recognition and prior expectations. Right now Iowa's resume is nothing special at all from top to bottom.


Again, as a matter of perception? Perhaps not. Iowa is coasting on the expectations game. I think the idea of them being an 8 seed before the NW game is a joke.
Well, it's all perception. Compared to the bubble teams I listed, Iowa has at worst as good of a resume and has severely underperformed in the last 2 weeks compared to earlier in the year. I wouldn't say we are locks and will just laugh at our team if we don't make it, but just making the point that overall Iowa and Okie St. are probably better teams on the court than most bubble teams and have just **** the bed for 2 weeks during an otherwise above average season.

Which of the bubble teams would you say has a definitively better resume?
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Well, it's all perception. Compared to the bubble teams I listed, Iowa has at worst as good of a resume and has severely underperformed in the last 2 weeks compared to earlier in the year. I wouldn't say we are locks and will just laugh at our team if we don't make it, but just making the point that overall Iowa and Okie St. are probably better teams on the court than most bubble teams and have just **** the bed for 2 weeks during an otherwise above average season.

Which of the bubble teams would you say has a definitively better resume?
Definite is too strong of a word, but at this point I'd take Nebraska and Minnesota over Iowa. Arizona State, Providence, Tennessee, all of the bubble teams.
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Definite is too strong of a word, but at this point I'd take Nebraska and Minnesota over Iowa. Arizona State, Providence, Tennessee, all of the bubble teams.
Minnesota is a stretch, but you could argue they are better right now which would be true. Their resume is very similar to Iowa's, with more or less the same quality wins/losses with some of their losses coming with much larger margins and playing probably an easier conference schedule.

With 2 similar teams, you basically have to go on perception or the "eye test". Iowa at their best has looked better than Minnesota at any point in this season. But they've also looked like a bottom feeder Big Ten team the last 2 weeks. Perception, as you put it, should be one factor because Iowa is not nearly as bad as they are playing right now.
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Of course they are. If they weren't that bad they would be playing better. You think they wanted to lose to Northwestern?
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Of course they are. If they weren't that bad they would be playing better. You think they wanted to lose to Northwestern?
Yes, obviously what I meant was that Iowa is so good they decided to play possibly they worst game of the season on purpose in the first round of the BTT and lose to jNW...


What I meant is that Iowa that played yesterday was the absolute rock bottom for the team. You think that is the same team yesterday that beat jNW by 26 twice, beat Michigan by like 20, went to OT with Villanova and Sparty?

Iowa at their high have been very good, but as we see now at their bottom have been dog ****. Obviously they are capable of playing as bad as they did yesterday....because they did. But more often than not this year, Iowa has played much, much better than they have the last handful of games.
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Iowa hasn't played well in over a month. What's more likely, that they will reflect the team they've been the last month, or that they'll somehow magically revert back to the team they were in January?

Momentum isn't everything, but it's certainly something, and in the case of a relatively mediocre resume like Iowa's I don't really see a compelling reason why they are clearly ahead of teams like Nebraska, Minnesota, Tennessee, or Providence.
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Also, lovely to see FSU and Missouri lose. The bubble is starting to clean itself out nicely.
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And if Nebraska beats Ohio State (again) we can cleanly take them off the bubble as well.
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When the Big Ten Network is criticizing their own refs you know they are bad.

Wouldn't matter cause we're playing like turds, but this game is disgusting to watch.

Won't be disappointed if we don't make the tourney. Our case is decent, but NIT would be a lot more competitive and arguably valuable experience.
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We have a top 50 resume, but not a top 50 team.

Like I said, I wouldn't mind the NIT, as I don't see us doing anything in the tourney anyway.
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American East and C-USA title games going down to the last minute. Love these games so much more than the big tourneys, that don't really matter by the end.
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I had no idea Danny Manning was the head coach at Tulsa. Nice to see that program back again. They had a few runs to the Sweet 16 in the 90s I remember.
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