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05-20-2007, 02:10 AM
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Yea his Stats are obviously not there but he does have the talent to be there.
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Yeah like I said, I think he's got the potential to be a big time player, but All Americans put up numbers. I think he will eventually be an AA, but as of right now, he's unproven
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05-20-2007, 12:06 PM
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QB JD Booty USC
HB Steve Slaton WVU
HB Darren McFadden Arkansas
WR Desean Jackson Cal
WR Earl Bennett Vandy
TE John Carlson Notre Dame
OL Jake Long Michigan
OL Sam Baker USC
OL Will Arnold LSU
OL Shannon Tevaga UCLA
C Antoine Caldwell Alabama
DE Calais Campbell Miami(FL)
DE Lawrence Jackson USC
DT Glen Dorsey DT LSU
DT Frank Okam Texas
LB Jonathon Goff Vandy
LB James Laurinatis Ohio State
LB Keith Rivers USC
CB Aqib Talib Kansas
CB Antoine Cason Arizona
S Kenny Phillips Miami (FL)
S Myron Rolle Florida State
KR Darius Reynaud WVU
PR Desean Jackson Cal
K Garret Hartley Oklahoma
P Durant Brooks Georgia Tech
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05-22-2007, 01:28 AM
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Not Really my teams but more of a prediction of how all the preseason publications will have them.
1st Team
QB – Brian Brohm Louisville
RB – Darren McFadden Arkansas
RB – Mike Hart Michigan
WR – Limas Sweed Texas
WR – Desean Jackson CAL
TE – Fred Davis USC
OT – Jake Long Michigan
OT – Sam Baker USC
OG – Will Arnold LSU
OG – Jordan Grimes Purdue
C – John Sullivan Notre Dame
DE – Calais Campbell Miami
DT – Glen Dorsey LSU
DT – Frank Okam Texas
DE – Tommy Blake TCU
LB – Dan Connor Penn State
LB – James Laurinitis Ohio State
LB – Keith Rivers USC
CB – Antoine Cason Arizona
CB – Justin King Penn State
S – Kenny Phillips Miami
S – Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame
Kicker – Brandon Coutu Georgia
Punter – Durant Brooks Georgia Tech
2nd Team
QB – Colt Brennan Hawaii
RB – Steve Slaton West Virginia
RB – Ray Rice Rutgers
WR – Percy Harvin Florida
WR – Mario Manningham Michigan
TE – John Carlson Notre Dame
OT – Ryan Clady Boise State
OT – Barry Richardson Clemson
OG – Shannon Tevaga UCLA
OG – Jeremy Perry Oregon State
C – Antoine Caldwell Alabama
DE – Lawrence Jackson USC
DT – Sedrick Ellis USC
DT – DeMarrio Pressley Maryland
DE – Chris Long Virginia
LB – Brian Cushing USC
LB – Jasper Brinkley South Carolina
LB – Vince Hall Virginia Tech
CB – Zackary Bowman Nebraska
CB – Malcom Jenkins Ohio State
S – Myron Rolle Florida State
S – Courtney Greene Rutgers
Kicker – Alexis Serna Oregon State
Punter – Ken Debauche Georgia
3rd Team
QB – Pat White West Virginia
(could also be Woodson, Ainge, Booty, or Henne)
RB – Jonathan Stewart Oregon
RB – Chris Wells Ohio State
(could also be Bernard, Spiller, Davis, Ore, or Charles)
WR – Early Doucet LSU
WR – Earl Bennet Vanderbilt
(Kelly, Bowman, Monk, Hardy, Urrutia, Dillard, Burton, Caldwell, Heyward-Bey and Hall all have a chance)
TE – Martin Rucker Missouri
OT – Michael Oher Ole Miss
OT – Kirk Barton Ohio State
OG – Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
OG – Kirk Elder Texas A&M
C – Alex Mack CAL
DE – Derrick Harvey Florida
DT – Marcus Harrison Arkansas
DT – Andre Fluellen Florida State
DE – Bruce Davis UCLA
(Groves and Gholston will make some lists too)
LB – Xavier Adibi Virginia Tech
LB – Rey Maualuga USC
LB – Geno Hayes Florida State
CB – Aqib Talib Kansas
CB – Dwight Lowery San Jose State
S – Jonathan Heffeney Tennessee
S – Josh Pinkard USC
Heisman Top 10
1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
2. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
3. Steve Slaton RB West Virginia
4. Colt Brennan QB Hawaii
5. Mike Hart RB Michigan
6. Desean Jackson WR/KR CAL
7. Pat White QB West Virginia
8. Ray Rice RB Rutgers
9. Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
10. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
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05-22-2007, 02:08 AM
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Why the **** would anyone put Zbikowski anywhere near All-American teams?
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05-22-2007, 11:45 PM
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Taylor Mays should be on a few second teams.
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05-23-2007, 02:27 AM
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What has he proved so far?
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05-23-2007, 01:05 PM
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QB JD Booty USC
HB Steve Slaton WVU
HB Darren McFadden Arkansas
WR Desean Jackson Cal
WR Earl Bennett Vandy
TE John Carlson Notre Dame
OL Jake Long Michigan
OL Sam Baker USC
OL Will Arnold LSU
OL Shannon Tevaga UCLA
C Antoine Caldwell Alabama
DE Calais Campbell Miami(FL)
DE Lawrence Jackson USC
DT Glen Dorsey DT LSU
DT Frank Okam Texas
LB Jonathon Goff Vandy
LB James Laurinatis Ohio State
LB Keith Rivers USC
CB Aqib Talib Kansas
CB Antoine Cason Arizona
S Kenny Phillips Miami (FL)
S Myron Rolle Florida State
KR Darius Reynaud WVU
PR Desean Jackson Cal
K Garret Hartley Oklahoma
P Durant Brooks Georgia Tech
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05-23-2007, 06:42 PM
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05-24-2007, 12:58 PM
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I must have missed the memo where Wisconsin Badger players aren't eligible to be all americans.
Travis Beckum was the #1 receiving tight end in college football last year by a substantial amount, coming off a season where he played defensive end/linebacker. ESPN picked CB Jack Ikegwuonu as the preseason defensive player of the year in the big ten. I don't think P.J. Hill has all american caliber ability, but the way Wisconsin runs the football, he has a good shot to make it on production. That's three players who could make it, yet none are listed. At least Beckum and Ikegwuonu should make 2nd teams or better. If Ikegwuonu duplicates his performance last year he should be comfortably in the top of the half of the first round of the draft (gbnreport already has him there).
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05-25-2007, 12:12 AM
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Where is Bernard and Straughter
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05-25-2007, 01:47 AM
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Who would Bernard and Straughter replace?
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05-25-2007, 08:32 AM
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J Lehman will make the 2nd team
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05-25-2007, 12:31 PM
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I must have missed the memo where Wisconsin Badger players aren't eligible to be all americans.
Travis Beckum was the #1 receiving tight end in college football last year by a substantial amount, coming off a season where he played defensive end/linebacker. ESPN picked CB Jack Ikegwuonu as the preseason defensive player of the year in the big ten. I don't think P.J. Hill has all american caliber ability, but the way Wisconsin runs the football, he has a good shot to make it on production. That's three players who could make it, yet none are listed. At least Beckum and Ikegwuonu should make 2nd teams or better. If Ikegwuonu duplicates his performance last year he should be comfortably in the top of the half of the first round of the draft (gbnreport already has him there).
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As long as Ikegwuono doesn't have anymore off the field issues.
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05-25-2007, 12:31 PM
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Why the **** would anyone put Zbikowski anywhere near All-American teams?
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Well he was a 3rd team AllAmerican in 2005, and there's not that many well known safeties who do what he does. You can argue Ellison from USC or whatever, it's just a list I threw on there without thinking real hard, it was off the top of my head really. I wouldn't be suprised if Zbiskoskwosksisi was an allamerican this year again.
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05-25-2007, 12:33 PM
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Well he was a 3rd team AllAmerican in 2005, and there's not that many well known safeties who do what he does. You can argue Ellison from USC or whatever, it's just a list I threw on there without thinking real hard, it was off the top of my head really. I wouldn't be suprised if Zbiskoskwosksisi was an allamerican this year again.
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Only Kenny Phillips or Michael Hamilton would really overtakes the SS position..
It's a terrible year for SS.
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05-25-2007, 12:33 PM
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Heisman Top 10
1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
2. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
3. Steve Slaton RB West Virginia
4. Colt Brennan QB Hawaii
5. Mike Hart RB Michigan
6. Desean Jackson WR/KR CAL
7. Pat White QB West Virginia
8. Ray Rice RB Rutgers
9. Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
10. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
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c'mon, ya can't leave off Beanie Wells. He's the most talented back in the nation and he will be the full time starter this year for a top 10 team.
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05-25-2007, 03:11 PM
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c'mon, ya can't leave off Beanie Wells. He's the most talented back in the nation and he will be the full time starter this year for a top 10 team.
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More talented than McFadden? I don't think so
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05-25-2007, 04:24 PM
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You can't say he's not as talented as McFadden, Wells was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of high school, I think Darren was like the #4 RB. Both are really awesome and probably top 5 picks in their respective drafts, but no one is more talented of a RB than Wells. As talented, maybe. But not more. Wells is a bigger, stronger, more power version of Adrian Peterson except a bit slower.
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05-25-2007, 04:33 PM
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You can't say he's not as talented as McFadden, Wells was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of high school, I think Darren was like the #4 RB. Both are really awesome and probably top 5 picks in their respective drafts, but no one is more talented of a RB than Wells. As talented, maybe. But not more. Wells is a bigger, stronger, more power version of Adrian Peterson except a bit slower.
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Dude, I agree Wells is a supreme talent with loads of potential, but to say he's more talented than McFadden is a ridiculous assertion at this point. You have to prove it on the field. He did look great last year, but not as great at McFadden. It's like saying that Ronnie Brown is more talented than Ladainian.
"no one is more talented of a RB than Wells"
I'd edit that.
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What has he proved so far?
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Are you talking about Mays?
Freshman All American?
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05-25-2007, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by keylime_5
You can't say he's not as talented as McFadden, Wells was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of high school, I think Darren was like the #4 RB. Both are really awesome and probably top 5 picks in their respective drafts, but no one is more talented of a RB than Wells. As talented, maybe. But not more. Wells is a bigger, stronger, more power version of Adrian Peterson except a bit slower.
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So Kyle Wright is the most talented QB in the country?
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05-25-2007, 06:34 PM
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Wells is as talented as any back in the country. You don't have to be proven to be talented. Somebody said I can't say Wells is as talented as McFadden, they're wrong, he might be more talented than McFadden. McFadden is a great Rb, but he's getting overrated a bit on here, people act like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Flavor of the week I'd say.
Kyle Wright is not that talented apparently. If you suck then you can't be that talented. To be considered talented in football you have to at least have benefit of the doubt by not having played much.
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05-25-2007, 06:35 PM
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"no one is more talented of a RB than Wells"
I'd edit that.
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i'm talking about in college football right now, not all time or in all of football or anything.
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05-25-2007, 10:24 PM
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Wells is as talented as any back in the country. You don't have to be proven to be talented. Somebody said I can't say Wells is as talented as McFadden, they're wrong, he might be more talented than McFadden. McFadden is a great Rb, but he's getting overrated a bit on here, people act like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Flavor of the week I'd say.
Kyle Wright is not that talented apparently. If you suck then you can't be that talented. To be considered talented in football you have to at least have benefit of the doubt by not having played much.
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Wasn't Anthony Morelli #2 in that class? ;)
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05-26-2007, 12:24 AM
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Not much love for Missouri's talented tight ends, Martin Rucker and Chase Coffman. They are certainly the best tandem in the country at TE.
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