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Man I can't wait for round 2 when we make our first pick
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I've not been paying that much attention to the draft this year. Not anticipating any departure form our usual draft process.
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Normally I have my heart set on 3 or 4 players at our pick. This year, I'd be open to a lot of different things. I'm pumpeddddd
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Oh god Byron Jones is really happening.

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Looking forward to watching some tape. Hope he isn't Easely 2.0 (god I hope he has a good second year)
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it was weird.... it was reported the pats had traded their pick to houston originally.

but i love the pick. big need, i think he could be a stud for us.
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Basically what they wanted out of Easley. Not quite as quick, but more developed on the physical end. If Easley can make big progress on where he needs to be, physically, they could have two of these dudes. That'd be pure hell for offenses to deal with on passing downs.
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Not a fan of certain university's players and Texas recently has been one of those schools.

He's certainly a good prospect for what NE wants, but he had a lot of soft film. The best thing on his evaluation was "He constantly improved his game" (which is super high praise for some scouts)
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I personally like this pick a lot. I know Texas doesn't have the best reputation these days, but he was one of their few bright spots. I might have preferred Goldman, but I am on board with Brown. Needed to beef up the DL and we had a very talented guy fall into our laps.
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Went to bed after the Chiefs pick because the first round was really boring and I assumed the Pats would trade down. In seeing the Brown pick I am okay with it. I like him as a player and the value was fine. I probably would have preferred Eddie Goldman if they are looking to fill Vince's old spot though.

I don't think the interior o-line value was very good with Erving and especially Tomlinson going so early. Ideally I would say the Pats may have liked Cann at around 40-45 or so but I doubt he last that long now.

In the second I think I would like a RB or OG - might have to bite the bullet and take someone like Tre Jackson at the end of the second though
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I didn't watch either (also fell asleep) but the Brown pick is ok. Too bad Tomlinson was already gone, really thought we'd have a shot at him. According to Curran Pats were interested.

I'd like to see Pats trade up in the 2nd; guard, wr or rb would be nice, but if they have a shot at Randy Gregory that would be cool.

But of course, if cmarq remains on track we'll be drafting a special team gunner in the 2nd. :/
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Yeah I'll have to have a look through some rankings to see who the 20th ranked safety is to prepare myself for later on
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I'll have to read the scouting report since I haven't paid any attention this year. I know about 5 names and don't know much about them, even. Scott has reports up for me, right?

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Watched some game tape of brown and figured id share my thoughts.

He plays relatively low pretty consistently which is great, and the majority of the times hes getting behind the lone its because of that. He does a solid job of holding the point of attack, and keeps his wyes on where the ball is. He doesnt however get a ton of push, and looks like he lacks ideal nfl strength to really power through guys. Often if he gets stood up at the initial point of contact he sort of just stays there. Seems to have a good motor from what ive seen, plays gard for four quarters and is alwaya chasing the ball.

Honestly not sure how he'll transition to the nfl. Easely, while being a completely different player, had much more success getting push and powering through guys, he took games over pre injury. Now idk if hell ever get back to that point with his health, but brown looks like a guy who can replace vince's anility to hold a point of attack, but im not entirely convinced hell take the next step and offer much more. Back to tape.
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I think the coaching staff need to drum into Brown that he is a big guy. It is almost as though he plays like a 290lber at times instead of a guy who is 320. Too much finesse in his game at this point but I think that is coachable and he has made some big improvements
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He really doesnt play to his size. Im almost wondering if always hunting the ball is hurting his play and forcing him to play more passive. A combination of that and lack of strength would probably explain his lack of bull rushing ability. Both something that should be coachable, hopefully.
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Brown looks like he'll be alright. He doesn't pop on tape the way some guys do, but if he ends up like a 4-3 version of Ty Warren I'll be OK with it. He's still really young, and hopefully can develop a little more functional strength. I think people are looking at it as a Vince replacement, but that guy doesn't really need to exist anymore. I'm perfectly content letting Siliga and Branch taking the heavy snaps. Getting 2 good pass rushing DT's will do a lot with the defensive pieces we have in place. BB said last night that Easley was 260lbs. Which makes me wonder if they really ever see him as a starting 3 tech.

Still I'm starting to get concerned with us not drafting offense again. We really need a talent infusion on that side of the ball, as a lot of our important players are 28+. We do need to find a long term solution at #1 corner as well. I get why drafting front 7 guys is a good investment, but at a certain point you have to wonder if we need to distribute assets elsewhere.
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Were going to stick to the "if gronk is healthy" mentality, for better or worse. Ive just accepted it now. Either he plays and we click or he gets hurt and our offense blows.

Also i really am not so sure about his pass rushing ability in the nfl (Brown's, obviously). He doesnt really stand put as a pass rusher to me. Who knows, Im rarely right on this stuff.
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Also i really am not so sure about his pass rushing ability in the nfl (Brown's, obviously). He doesnt really stand put as a pass rusher to me. Who knows, Im rarely right on this stuff.
I don't really see him as a pass rushing phenom either, but I think Warren is a somewhat apt comparison. He'll be a huge upgrade over Vince in that department even if he's not good at it.
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Brown is a run stopper. He's a 43 NT with maybe 34 NT ability or 34 DE. He's not a 43 UT. Dominique Easley, who got better as he got stronger as the year went on, is a 43 UT (pass rushing type DT).

I know everyone has given up on him - but he's not dead yet.
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Ill believe it when i see it. I had high hopes for him but im not sure with his injuries if hell ever be the player he was in college.
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Ill believe it when i see it. I had high hopes for him but im not sure with his injuries if hell ever be the player he was in college.
I was surprised he played at all last year. I figured he would need a RS year. He played well given he tore his ACL his senior year. It usually takes a year to bounce back.

It's not guaranteed he ever plays up to expectations, but most players (save freaks like AD) take a year to come back. Tack that onto the fact he just jumped a level of play... and his play actually becomes impressive.

That said, more will be expected this year.
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