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Old 01-21-2007, 02:51 PM    (permalink
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But we're tempting fate here. Chad Jackson has not proven anything this year other than that he's not smart enough to learn the playbook and that all he knows how to do is run in a straight line really fast. I like Jabar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell, but Tom Brady deserves a Marvin Harrison or a Reggie Wayne of his own. No, we haven't needed that so far, but it's going to catch up eventually.
Last year after the draft, Chad was saying how well he was picking up the play book during interviews and how he stood out from other prospects. I think this was a major factor in the pats trading up to get him.

I don't know if it's his intelligence level that is holding him back from learning the playbook, or another issue that we are unaware of. A reoccurring rumor this season has been that Jackson is having some immaturity issues, and this could be a big reason for his reduced playtime.

It also didn't help that he had that annoying hamstring injury at the start of the year and was unable to get out there with the team during training camp and pre-season to get some experience in the system.

None the less, Chad has made the most of his limited time on the field and has a few TD's to show for it. I look forward to watching him next season and seeing if the kid can make the all important 2nd year jump that we all expect.
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You guys ready for your beat down? Manning is bound to break away with a big game. He is due.
8) i just want you to know that if we win im going into the colts discussion ,post this, and brag the hell outta of you.
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no one knows what Chad's deal is

we can assume or guess that its playbook..routes..maturity..just coaching decision to go with the vetrans


no one that has the knowledge has said anything(not BB, not Pioli, not Brady, no the Dabbol, not any player)

There were 2 rumors.

#1 He was immature at a dinner or something
^doubt it..

#2 It was said that he didnt take time to study playbook when he was hurt after missing all of TC


i just hope he steps up next year
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no one knows what Chad's deal is

we can assume or guess that its playbook..routes..maturity..just coaching decision to go with the vetrans


no one that has the knowledge has said anything(not BB, not Pioli, not Brady, no the Dabbol, not any player)

There were 2 rumors.

#1 He was immature at a dinner or something
^doubt it..

#2 It was said that he didnt take time to study playbook when he was hurt after missing all of TC


i just hope he steps up next year
Well exactly. No one is going to say anything and they don't need to. I was just bringing up the point that he is capable of learning the playbook, but for unknown reasons, was kept off the field most his rookie year ( as most rookie WRs are).

I was unaware of of that dinner incident, just that some unnamed 'sources' close to the team felt that he had some maturity issues.

Depending on how the Pats draft WR wise will determine their faith in Jackson.

I am very confident that he will step up next year.
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The thing is with the WR's that could be there in the late first round is that most of the guys are raw. Sidney Rice is a great young talent, but he is raw. Ted Ginn is very raw. I don't want to deal with another raw rookie. I want a senior at WR not another junior.

After the Tennessee game, I am certain Chad Jackson will bounce back. He showed me a lot just in that one game. I want to give Chad another year or two to develop.
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Trust me, I want nothing more than for Chad Jackson to become a legit #1 WR in this league. I just don't think that alone will be enough, long term.

I have no problem with the Pats taking a LB or DB with both firsts. Hell, I'd have no problem if the Pats came out with two of Posluzky, Timmons, Willis and/or Woodley. I love defensive football. Normally, that is the way I roll. I was totally bummed when the Pats took Lawrence Maroney over Manny Lawson (though I am glad they did now).

I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
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even though im a jets fan, i hate peyton manning so much that i cannot even put it into words... go pats
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You guys ready for your beat down? Manning is bound to break away with a big game. He is due.
8) i just want you to know that if we win im going into the colts discussion ,post this, and brag the hell outta of you.

1.) Boasting is never a good thing and true winners don't need to boast


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Trust me, I want nothing more than for Chad Jackson to become a legit #1 WR in this league. I just don't think that alone will be enough, long term.

I have no problem with the Pats taking a LB or DB with both firsts. Hell, I'd have no problem if the Pats came out with two of Posluzky, Timmons, Willis and/or Woodley. I love defensive football. Normally, that is the way I roll. I was totally bummed when the Pats took LaUrence Maroney over Manny Lawson (though I am glad they did now).

I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
I'm with you on that one. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Pats went Defence heavy this year as opposed to (almost) all Offence last season.
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MANKINS TOUCHDOWN! who'da guessed that one?
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It must be so easy and luxorious to be a Pats fan.
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It must be so easy and luxorious to be a Pats fan.
No kidding. The Superbowl is going to be a match of the most lackidasical fans vs. the most neurotic ones.
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The game is not over yet.
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Alrighty, first, thanks to the f a g who jinxed us above. Really nice asshole.

Second: if I here one more argument for why we shouldn't take a WR in the first round, I will shoot you in the mother f'ing face.
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you guys should have won that. The colts got lucky
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You guys ready for your beat down? Manning is bound to break away with a big game. He is due.
8) i just want you to know that if we win im going into the colts discussion ,post this, and brag the hell outta of you.

1.) Boasting is never a good thing and true winners don't need to boast


2.) Never use an illiterate statement such as "Brag the hell outta you" again
why dont you shut the hell up. plus i was only going to brag to that user only nobody else
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It hasn't set in for me yet. I'm afraid ill flip out when it does . .
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Reche Caldwell sure makes a great #1 doesn't he?
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Reche Caldwell sure makes a great #1 doesn't he?
Yeah im preety sure hes GONE next season and it's damn clear that we are taking a decent WR next draft. I was wrong about Jabar though, the last few games have really impressed me.
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not 1 dropped pass but 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Guys, let me just say that your team (minus Caldwell and that phantom PI call against you) played an amazing game.

I may not like Brady, much like you guys and Manning, but I respect the living hell outta him. He plays his ass off every playoff game with a supporting cast of Maroney and company. Your team will continue being great, Brady is only 30 next season and there's youth at RB and there will be younger receivers eventually. Asante Samuel is a stud.

Good luck guys in your future endeavors, and cheers.
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Whatever we've got the draft to look forward to at least.

Cladwell really did blow it big time. Tom "Mr. Clutch" Brady threw an awful pass into double coverage to end it, what a way to go out. All the more reason why we need a #1 target.

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