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Old 05-24-2007, 01:04 AM    (permalink
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What do the Bulls do at #9?

Re-sign or drop:
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Saw some other threads doing this, liked the idea.

What do the Bulls do at #9?

Re-sign or drop:
Nocioni
Sweetney
Brown
Malik Allen
Andre Barrett
Andriuskevicius

Trades....

Go at it.
Nocioni is restricted so keep him 1 more year or trade him. Sweetney is also restricted so if he is offered something substantial let him walk. PJ Brown could be back for a smaller contract but I see him going to a team like San Antonio or Dallas. Malik Allen could be back for the min, Andre Barrett is gone, and Sidvicious might be worth the end of the bench because of his potential.
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Besides Noc, I think the rest will be gone (unless PJ comes back). Maybe Allen, but thats as much as I can see. I also believe that Chris Duhon is a FA, or has 1 year left on his contract, so I am hoping that he gets traded away. Why you ask? Chris Duhon cant score. Yes he is a good defender, and finds the open man, but he takes way to many shots that he cant make.

Trades....
Zach Randolph..
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....home-headlines

IMO that could be a player to look to trade for. Born in 81, so that makes him 27 years old. So good young guy that can score, the only problem is is that they say that he is "oft troubled". I think that could be taken care of.

Another one that is completly rediculous, more of a fantasy trade would be:
ATL Trades #1
Bulls Trade #9, next years draft pick, and a player like Duhon or someone
**but we all know that wont happen :(

I hope we dont trade for KG, I would rather have a guy who is young and will be good for many years, than a guy who is in his 30's that will only be good/around for the next few.
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I don't see the Bulls trading for Zach Randolph. This is the same Zach Randolph that threw toys out the top of his Hummer or Escalade when he was accused of illegal drug possession. Can we say "character issues?"

What is actually an outside chance is to trade the #9 for LaMarcus Aldridge. Nate may find him expendable with Oden coming to town. We'll see. Unquestionably, the inside presence is a prior.

I would have no problem with trading Hinirich and the #9 for an inside presence. Gasol?
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I wouldnt trade Hinrich. Period. He is the only guard on our team that can score, pass well, and play defense in a combo like that. Ben Gordon can score, but makes mistakes passing at times, and isnt the best defender. Duhon cant score, but plays good defense and passes well. Noc had an off year, but he still sucked in the playoffs (injured).
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I wouldnt trade Hinrich. Period. He is the only guard on our team that can score, pass well, and play defense in a combo like that. Ben Gordon can score, but makes mistakes passing at times, and isnt the best defender. Duhon cant score, but plays good defense and passes well. Noc had an off year, but he still sucked in the playoffs (injured).
But the rest of young players seem to be improving while Hinrich has yet to take that next step of leader we saw him being. I think Hinrich is becoming more and more expendable. I would not trade him with a pick to get a big man, because that is just way to much for anyone besides Amare.

Do the bulls take Character out of the question now, or make it a lesser importance because they are so close, say like we did with rodman. Detroit had a group of solid character guys and they got the "explodable" Rasheed Wallace and he has done very well there. I think that the Bulls need a big man this year or next, because the window is closing and we cannot sign everyone we have long term.
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But the rest of young players seem to be improving while Hinrich has yet to take that next step of leader we saw him being. I think Hinrich is becoming more and more expendable. I would not trade him with a pick to get a big man, because that is just way to much for anyone besides Amare.

Do the bulls take Character out of the question now, or make it a lesser importance because they are so close, say like we did with rodman. Detroit had a group of solid character guys and they got the "explodable" Rasheed Wallace and he has done very well there. I think that the Bulls need a big man this year or next, because the window is closing and we cannot sign everyone we have long term.
why can't the bulls sign everyone to long term contracts? The team absolutely got a deal with Hinrich. Please explain.
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why can't the bulls sign everyone to long term contracts? The team absolutely got a deal with Hinrich. Please explain.
Through 2010 the bulls have Hinrich, Wallace, Thomas and Sefolosha signed.

Deng and Gordon are going to need BIG contracts since they are both 20+ point scorers and Deng is basically a double double. So having 4 guys with big money contracts and then Thomas and Sefolosha with sizable contracts themselves, it is hard to stay under the cap.
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But the rest of young players seem to be improving while Hinrich has yet to take that next step of leader we saw him being. I think Hinrich is becoming more and more expendable. I would not trade him with a pick to get a big man, because that is just way to much for anyone besides Amare.

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I agree with you. I think though right now he is still the leader, and we need him either to step up, or lead by example. And agree 1000% on the young guys, look at the steps Deng and Gordon have made each year. Sefolosha when I was watching him play against detriot, looked identical to Teyshaun Prince (just not as good yet). And Tyrus has made huge strides himself.
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DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO SAM SMITH AND HIS IDIOTIC TRADES.

He often proposes trades that don't match salary & are impossible.

Skiles & Paxson want no part of Randolph. No part.

Bulls won't be able to land KG or any superstar either. Because they won't have any contracts to match the salary. If this team was going to get a star like KG down low it would have to of happened last year when Paxson had PJ Brown's expiring.

Spencer Hawes with the 9th pick most likely or it will be traded for a solid post player like Collison etc.
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I think we end up going after Hawes or Collison at 9. I also think Noc is gone, but I don't know who we'd trade him to. A possibility I saw was Noc to Orlando for Darko, thoughts?
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I think we end up going after Hawes or Collison at 9. I also think Noc is gone, but I don't know who we'd trade him to. A possibility I saw was Noc to Orlando for Darko, thoughts?
Not happening.

Darko wants $50m.

He is a scrub.
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Maybe not -

I just heard Paxson is going after Z-Bo.

Nocioni s&t + PJ Brown + filler.

It would have to happen after the draft though.

Hopefully if that deal went down we could grab Julian Wright.

Kirk - Duhon - Thabo
Ben - Thabo - Duhon
Deng - Wright/#9 pick
Randolph - Tyrus
Big Ben - Randolph

That is a great team as long as Randolph doesn't go shooting at people during the season.
PJ would have to be a S&T as well. I'm thinking it would be #9 +Noc S&T would be the recipe.
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Not happening.

Darko wants $50m.

He is a scrub.
Where did you see he wants that kind of money?
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PJ would have to be a S&T as well. I'm thinking it would be #9 +Noc S&T would be the recipe.
Can't trade the pick & Nocioni at the same time.
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Where did you see he wants that kind of money?
Read it before the season started and then at the all star break.

At first he wanted $60m.

Then during the all star break I heard he was going to be looking for about $50m lol.

No one is touching him for that.
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Read it before the season started and then at the all star break.

At first he wanted $60m.

Then during the all star break I heard he was going to be looking for about $50m lol.

No one is touching him for that.
you really don't know anything. first you say that you can't get trade for a high priced player: too bad there is such a thing as sign & trade.

then you say that darko wants 50m. where'd you get that from? no one is suggesting that he is going to get 10m a year, and that is what you're incinuating. ridiculous.

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Can't trade the pick & Nocioni at the same time.
why? what rule prevents that?
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DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO SAM SMITH AND HIS IDIOTIC TRADES.

He often proposes trades that don't match salary & are impossible.

Skiles & Paxson want no part of Randolph. No part.

Bulls won't be able to land KG or any superstar either. Because they won't have any contracts to match the salary. If this team was going to get a star like KG down low it would have to of happened last year when Paxson had PJ Brown's expiring.

Spencer Hawes with the 9th pick most likely or it will be traded for a solid post player like Collison etc.

smith does often purpose idiotic trades, but he never offers a trade where the salaries don't work. you are again proving you know nothing about the nba.

plus, why couldn't you resign pj and trade him with others for KG. outside of the fact that it's a horrible trade for minny, you can still do it. please learn the nba rules before ever posting about the bulls again.
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Randolph is worth a shot on. I read a NBA message board for the Bulls, and someone made a good point by pointing out the fact that Randolph would be surrounded by a high character group.
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why? what rule prevents that?
Lol are you ******* serious dude? You're a dumb ****. Honestly.

Do you know anything about BYC players? Maybe you should google and do some reading and educate your dumb self.

Randolph makes $13+ million next year.

If Paxson resigns Nocioni at $8m starting salary, he will only be worth $4m as outgoing value.

How are you going to make up the other salary? Sign PJ Brown for $9m/yr? Good joke.

Nocioni cannot be SIGNED until JULY 15TH (AFTER THE DRAFT DUMB ****) .. Which means we don't get equal salary back.

So keep believing a trade can happen when in reality it's not possible.

Let me break this down for you since you think you know what you're talking about.

WE can Sign & Trade Nocioni with a 2008 or 2009 pick - NOT 2007.

But Paxson must match salary to bring in KG, Randolph, Amare, or whoever you think is possible.

Only 2 players on the Bulls make more than $5m next season Kirk who is BYC & Ben Wallace. Any matching of the salaries would gut the entire team since we know Paxson is not trading Kirk or Wallace.

Maybe you shouldn't talk **** to someone who actually knows how the CBA works.
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smith does often purpose idiotic trades, but he never offers a trade where the salaries don't work. you are again proving you know nothing about the nba.

plus, why couldn't you resign pj and trade him with others for KG. outside of the fact that it's a horrible trade for minny, you can still do it. please learn the nba rules before ever posting about the bulls again.
I should learn the NBA rules?

Yet, you think we can trade the #9 pick & Nocioni..

Comical.
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http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n...= 21848&rfi=6

"Keep a very close eye on Orlando forward/center Darko Milicic's situation this summer.
It might mirror Anderson Varejao's journey into free agency. Both will be restricted free agents this summer, and both will be rewarded handsomely.
A league source expects the 7-foot Milicic to command between $6 million and $10 million a season."

I can't find the exact link where his agent said he was looking for $50/$60m.

But either way you're a ****** and not worth my time.
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