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Old 11-22-2006, 03:11 PM    (permalink
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In a 3-4 could 3 big 340+ d-lineman work well?
Unlikely, DEs would probably be way to unathletic to help against outside runs so it'd be that sides OLB and maybe ILB trying to stop a FB, TE and maybe a pulling guard.
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As for the 4-3 over i was invisioning it'd be something like this

LE - Will Smith
NT - Shaun Rogers
UT - Tommie Harris
RE - Alex Brown
SLB - DeMarcus Ware (I think he is good enough in coverage to be a fit here)

MLB - Antonio Pierce
WLB - Mike Peterson

IMO that's somewhat reasonable with a cap and gives everything i'd want, a SLB who's a beast on the blitz and can dominate the pass and run.
A NT who can eat blocks but also make plays with quickness.
A UT who is constantly in the backfield.
A LE who can throw RTs around with speed and power.
A RE who is just sick off the edge with speed.
And then two MLB types cleaning up everything the front 5 doesn't take out.
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This how I like my 4-3s

DT-1 big 350+ DT.
DT-A big guy in the 300-315 range who could play DE
DE-A Trevor Pryce like player who can get 7+ sacks and can play DE in a 4-3 and a 3-4 along w/ a 4-3 DT.
DE-A good speed rusher who could also drop back in coverage
SLB- A beast that is big and can blitz and cover and so on like a OLB
MLB- A team leader, a side line to side line ball hawk, but can also cover the TE in case the SLB blitzes
WLB- A player that will usually cover a RB out of the backfield


DE-Trevor Pryce
DT-Shaun Rogers
DT-Richard Seymour
DE-Terrell Suggs/Demarcus Ware and so on
SLB-Adalius Thomas
MLB-Brian Urlacher
WLB-Mike Peterson

with this we could possibly go to a 3-4 looking like this

DE-Trevor Pryce
DT-Shaun Rogers
DE-Richard Seymour
OLB-T-sizzle/Demarcus Ware and so on
MLB-Brian Urlacher
MLB-Mike Peterson
OLB-Adalius Thomas


I shall admit I am a little biased w/ the Ravens players since I dont get to key in on players abilities and weaknesses as I can w/ the Ravens.
WLB-
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This how I like my 4-3s

DT-1 big 350+ DT.
:shock: . Is there guy the league right now who weighs that much?
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This how I like my 4-3s

DT-1 big 350+ DT.
:shock: . Is there guy the league right now who weighs that much?
There are a few.
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i like 4-3 and have to fast outside ends two big uglys in the middle and have a superstar in the middle
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This how I like my 4-3s

DT-1 big 350+ DT.
:shock: . Is there guy the league right now who weighs that much?
Grady Jackson is one
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I mean a big run stuffer, Marcus Stroud would be fine but he is like 325ish I believe.
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but i hate the 3-4...

my ultimate 4-3 lineup that actually would fit under the cap...

DE Alex Brown
DT Tommie Harris
DT Ian Scott
DE Adewale Ogunleye

WLB Lance Briggs
MLB Brian Urlacher
SLB Hunter Hillenmeyer

CB Nathan Vasher
CB Peanut Tillman

SS Mike Brown
FS Danieal Manning


In all honesty however, the only ones i would change would be Hunter, possibly manning (not in 2 years though) and Tillman.
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Shaun Rogers was 357 now they say hes 347

Ted Washington is 365

Dan Wilkinson was 353 now is 340

i think the biggest man in the nfl is Leonard Davis i belive he is like 370 but he is a OT
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but i hate the 3-4...

my ultimate 4-3 lineup that actually would fit under the cap...

DE Alex Brown
DT Tommie Harris
DT Ian Scott
DE Adewale Ogunleye

WLB Lance Briggs
MLB Brian Urlacher
SLB Hunter Hillenmeyer

CB Nathan Vasher
CB Peanut Tillman

SS Mike Brown
FS Danieal Manning


In all honesty however, the only ones i would change would be Hunter, possibly manning (not in 2 years though) and Tillman.
Ronnie Brown>your defense.
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Shaun Rogers was 357 now they say hes 347

Ted Washington is 365

Dan Wilkinson was 353 now is 340

i think the biggest man in the nfl is Leonard Davis i belive he is like 370 but he is a OT
350+ seems abit much even for a NT. I would want my guy to be around 315-325, depending on his height.
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I like me some 4-3. In a 3-4, your NT needs to be ON if you're gonna have ANY success stopping the run. In a 4-3, more people fit the 4-3 NT mold than do the 3-4. Plus, the pass rush from the DL isn't as good in a 3-4. Sure, you can blitz LBs, but it's not likeyou can bring 2 LBs every timme most likely. And I dunno but it seems like 4-3 defenses are better against the pass for some reason. If you look at all the 4-3 Ds, more of them seem to be near the top in pass D. My dream 4-3:

LE-Peppers
DT-Henderson
DT-Harris
RE-Jason Taylor
WLB-Adalius Thomas? (i dunno, im blanking on guys for some reason)
MLB-Urlacher
SLB-DJ Williams(homer vote, but again, hes good, and im blanking on others)

That could fit under the cap, too.

if the rest of the team was a bunch of scrubs, anyway.
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WLB- Julian Peterson or Keith Bulluck.
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In a 3-4 could 3 big 340+ d-lineman work well?
i dont think so Casey Hampton Jamal Williams are not even that big

your say like Shaun Rodgers & Ted Wash & grady Jackson

THATS TO BIG I THINK
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Dream Defence:

LDE: Richard Seymour
NT: Jamal Williams
RDE: Julius Peppers

LOLB: DeMarcus Ware
LILB: Brian Urlacher
RILB: Keith Bulluck
ROLB: Shawne Merriman

LCB: Champ Bailey
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my 3-4 is this

LE - Darnell Dockett (290) | NT - Shaun Rodgers (350) | RE - Tommie Harris (290)
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LDE: Richard Seymour
NT: Jamal Williams
RDE: Julius Peppers

LOLB: DeMarcus Ware
LILB: Brian Urlacher
RILB: Keith Bulluck
ROLB: Shawne Merriman

LCB: Champ Bailey
RCB: Rashean Mathis
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Sean Taylor
i thinks hes better for a OLB in 3-4
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LDE: Richard Seymour
NT: Jamal Williams
RDE: Julius Peppers

LOLB: DeMarcus Ware
LILB: Brian Urlacher
RILB: Keith Bulluck
ROLB: Shawne Merriman

LCB: Champ Bailey
RCB: Rashean Mathis
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Sean Taylor
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I would go 3-4 because more teams run the 4-3, so 3-4 prospects would be easier to find later in the draft, also teams that run the 3-4 have had a lot of sucess from what I've seen.

Why is there no Cover 2 option? The two best teams in the NFL run it.
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I would go 3-4 because more teams run the 4-3, so 3-4 prospects would be easier to find later in the draft, also teams that run the 3-4 have had a lot of sucess from what I've seen.

Why is there no Cover 2 option? The two best teams in the NFL run it.
The Cowboys and Chargers both run 3-4 silly.
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Dream Defence:

LDE: Richard Seymour
NT: Jamal Williams
RDE: Julius Peppers

LOLB: DeMarcus Ware
LILB: Brian Urlacher
RILB: Keith Bulluck
ROLB: Shawne Merriman

LCB: Champ Bailey
RCB: Rashean Mathis
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Sean Taylor
What the crap is a defence? The de-transliteration of the stadium signs?
It's the way everybody except Americans spells "defense".
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I would go 3-4 because more teams run the 4-3, so 3-4 prospects would be easier to find later in the draft, also teams that run the 3-4 have had a lot of sucess from what I've seen.

Why is there no Cover 2 option? The two best teams in the NFL run it.
The Cover 2 is a form of the 4-3.
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