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I'm pretty sure before the season, they were worried he had a toe/foot injury that wouldn't let him play again. He's been playing hurt all year, but has still been solid. He's a beast.
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I'm pretty sure before the season, they were worried he had a toe/foot injury that wouldn't let him play again. He's been playing hurt all year, but has still been solid. He's a beast.
I didn't even know if he recovered from the toe. He definately is a monster though.
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id take 46, with a SS who can cover and stuff the run, then 3 lock down DB's
But that's next to impossible. Your secondary would need to be like D-Hall, Champ, Ed Reed and Sean Taylor. It'd be a good defense if you had them, but the only way that would happen is if there was life on Mars and tey played football and challenged us to a football war.
I think other countries would be far less out there.
The only other country that plays football that I know of is Canada, and there are two things you need to know. It's a different game. And our best player is Jesse Palmer or Jesse Lumsden, neither of whom made NFL rosters.
havent you ever heard of Turkey?geez do you live under a rock.Turkish football.
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id take 46, with a SS who can cover and stuff the run, then 3 lock down DB's
But that's next to impossible. Your secondary would need to be like D-Hall, Champ, Ed Reed and Sean Taylor. It'd be a good defense if you had them, but the only way that would happen is if there was life on Mars and tey played football and challenged us to a football war.
I think other countries would be far less out there.
The only other country that plays football that I know of is Canada, and there are two things you need to know. It's a different game. And our best player is Jesse Palmer or Jesse Lumsden, neither of whom made NFL rosters.
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i would def run a hybrid type Dline

but it would be a 4-3

DE-Peppers
DT-Jamal Williams
DT-Vince wilfork
DE-Tommie Harris

all GOOD players my DT would eat any oline, and harris could easily play DE..but he would have size to help in the run game
How is that a hybrid defense?
using 3-4 nt as 4-3 dts and having a dt play DE


trust me that would be a sick ass dline as usually all of those players are double teamed. with that much size and strength in the middle peppers would easily break sack record....that line would probably be the best run stopping also
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That isn't a hybrid though, a hybrid is having a defense that can run a 4-3 or a 3-4, that is just a really big DL.
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That isn't a hybrid though, a hybrid is having a defense that can run a 4-3 or a 3-4, that is just a really big DL.
Peppers could drop back into the Rush Backer position but I'm not so sure Wilfork could play 3-4 DE.
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If you want a hybrid DL, make it something like

DE - Terrell Suggs
DT - John Henderson
DT - Shaun Rogers
DE - Will Smith

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If you want a hybrid DL, make it something like

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DE - Will Smith

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Hybrid

OE-Jason Taylor
DT- Luis Castillo
NT- Vince Wilfork
DE- Julius Peppers
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Ultimate Hybrid:

4-3

LDE: Richard Seymour
LDT: Tommie Harris
RDT: Jamal Williams
RDE: Julius Peppers

3-4

LDE: Richard Seymour
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Tommie Harris is not a 3-4 end. The real ultimate.

DE- Richard Seymour
NT- Jamal Williams
DT- Kevin Williams
OE- Jason Taylor/Peppers

What DE is perfect for that role that I have Seymour in because I can't find a dominate guy. Kevin Carter does it for Miami, Trevor Pryce is an option. I still think Peppers would dominant in that role.
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I couldn't ever really see Harris as a 3-4 DE. Switch that out with another one of the premier DTs in the league and I think it's pretty good, though have we ever seen Seymour as a 4-3 DE?
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Tommie Harris is not a 3-4 end. The real ultimate.

DE- Richard Seymour
NT- Jamal Williams
DT- Kevin Williams
OE- Jason Taylor/Peppers

What DE is perfect for that role that I have Seymour in because I can't find a dominate guy. Kevin Carter does it for Miami, Trevor Pryce is an option. I still think Peppers would dominant in that role.
Why could Harris not play end in the 3-4?
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I couldn't ever really see Harris as a 3-4 DE. Switch that out with another one of the premier DTs in the league and I think it's pretty good, though have we ever seen Seymour as a 4-3 DE?
The Patriots have played in a 4-3 set from time to time I believe.
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Tommie Harris is not a 3-4 end. The real ultimate.

DE- Richard Seymour
NT- Jamal Williams
DT- Kevin Williams
OE- Jason Taylor/Peppers

What DE is perfect for that role that I have Seymour in because I can't find a dominate guy. Kevin Carter does it for Miami, Trevor Pryce is an option. I still think Peppers would dominant in that role.
Why could Harris not play end in the 3-4?
He is a penerator, it would be like Sapp in a 3-4.
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Tommie Harris is not a 3-4 end. The real ultimate.

DE- Richard Seymour
NT- Jamal Williams
DT- Kevin Williams
OE- Jason Taylor/Peppers

What DE is perfect for that role that I have Seymour in because I can't find a dominate guy. Kevin Carter does it for Miami, Trevor Pryce is an option. I still think Peppers would dominant in that role.
Will Smith. 8)

But Kevin Williams is almost more solely based on penetrating than Harris. Henderson would probably be better.
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Try this on for size:

LDE: Julius Peppers
DT: Richard Seymour
DT: Jamal Williams
RDE: Jason Taylor
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Try this on for size:

LDE: Julius Peppers
DT: Richard Seymour
DT: Jamal Williams
RDE: Jason Taylor
Yea that works.

Mario should be able to fill that role in a few years. Right now he sucks.
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That isn't a hybrid though, a hybrid is having a defense that can run a 4-3 or a 3-4, that is just a really big DL.
ok you are talking about hybrid meaning can do both,

my hybrid is having a D using both types of personel but running one set formation

EXE. having nts and DT played DE and running a 4-3
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I couldn't ever really see Harris as a 3-4 DE. Switch that out with another one of the premier DTs in the league and I think it's pretty good, though have we ever seen Seymour as a 4-3 DE?
The Patriots have played in a 4-3 set from time to time I believe.
I think he goes to DT when they do that.
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That isn't a hybrid though, a hybrid is having a defense that can run a 4-3 or a 3-4, that is just a really big DL.
ok you are talking about hybrid meaning can do both,

my hybrid is having a D using both types of personel but running one set formation

EXE. having nts and DT played DE and running a 4-3
and if you dont think peppers could be a rush backer is hilarious as he can cover just as good as most lbs and is more athletic. WIlliams, wilfork and harris can easily play 3-4....
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
i find it funny as you dont think they could play 3-4

i have no doubt they could play 3-4 ends
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