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Old 05-27-2007, 07:32 PM    (permalink
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Courtesy of Sporting News: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=212968

What are your views? What team do you believe to have the best LB unit in the NFC? What do you think of the individual LB rank:

1. Brian Urlacher, Bears. He is asked to do many different things in the middle of the cover 2 and is always around the ball.

2. DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys. He is emerging as one of the top young defensive stars in the game, and his best football is still in front of him.

3. Lofa Tatupu, Seahawks. He does not look impressive in pads, but he is a natural leader who makes plays all over the field.

4. Julian Peterson, Seahawks. His tremendous closing speed and rare first step as a pass rusher make him a game-changer.

5. Lance Briggs, Bears. Though he plays in Urlacher's shadow, he is nearly on par in terms of ability.
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wow Panthers @ 12! behind Vikings..Rams..Saints?

i would take a healthy Morgan-Beason-Thomas anyday of the weak over any other LB group
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#4 is pretty good and fair for the Bucs.
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wow Panthers @ 12! behind Vikings..Rams..Saints?

i would take a healthy Morgan-Beason-Thomas anyday of the weak over any other LB group
Who's Thomas on Carolina? You mean Thomas Davis, right? It's confusing because you listed the other guys' last names...
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I don't agree with Eagles at 14, but I can see why others would.
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I don't agree with Eagles at 14, but I can see why others would.
It's all dependent on Takeo Spikes. If Spikes plays like he was able to before the injury, then we will jump up a few spots. Trotter needs to rebound this season too, last season's performance was weak in comparison to what he is capable of. Us being below the Saints is garbage though. Their LB's are alright, but Simoneau who starts for them was a pretty certain cut when he was an Eagle. I expect the Saints to have problems with their LB personnel next season.
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Who's Thomas on Carolina? You mean Thomas Davis, right? It's confusing because you listed the other guys' last names...
Yeah he means thomas Davis who IMO is the best linebacker on the team already and if not for Derrick Brooks and Lance Briggs would get a lot more attention for being the great young player he is.
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guess i cant complain about the cowboys rankings, especially if you take into consideration our depth...we have ellis and spencer rotating on the outside, and carpenter and burnett rotating on the inside
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Wow 49ers at #5.. All this stuff is getting me hyped for the season! 49ers GO!
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The 49ers are a little too high, to quote Public Enemy "don't believe the hype."
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What are your views? What team do you believe to have the best LB unit in the NFC? What do you think of the individual LB rank:

1. Brian Urlacher, Bears. He is asked to do many different things in the middle of the cover 2 and is always around the ball.

2. DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys. He is emerging as one of the top young defensive stars in the game, and his best football is still in front of him.

3. Lofa Tatupu, Seahawks. He does not look impressive in pads, but he is a natural leader who makes plays all over the field.

4. Julian Peterson, Seahawks. His tremendous closing speed and rare first step as a pass rusher make him a game-changer.

5. Lance Briggs, Bears. Though he plays in Urlacher's shadow, he is nearly on par in terms of ability.
No way is DeMarcus Ware the 2nd best LB in the NFC right now, that's a joke.
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Why do you guys even bother with IF HEALTHY. that means the player has questions marks and will not play to the 100% health the player once has played at.
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i would take a healthy Morgan-Beason-Thomas anyday of the weak over any other LB group
Hahahahahaha.....Pause.....Hahahahahahahahahah. Seattle, Chicago, and Green Bay (off the top of my head) > Carolina.

Dan Morgan can't stay healthy, Jon Beason is an unproven rookie, and Thomas Davis while a good young player doesn't make up the difference.

Edit: Oh and Briggs is not on par with Urlacher in terms of ability. Brian is more athletic, he's faster, he's much better in coverage, and he has much more pursuit ability.
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What are your views? What team do you believe to have the best LB unit in the NFC? What do you think of the individual LB rank:

1. Brian Urlacher, Bears. He is asked to do many different things in the middle of the cover 2 and is always around the ball.

2. DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys. He is emerging as one of the top young defensive stars in the game, and his best football is still in front of him.

3. Lofa Tatupu, Seahawks. He does not look impressive in pads, but he is a natural leader who makes plays all over the field.

4. Julian Peterson, Seahawks. His tremendous closing speed and rare first step as a pass rusher make him a game-changer.

5. Lance Briggs, Bears. Though he plays in Urlacher's shadow, he is nearly on par in terms of ability.
Agree with the individual ranking of DeMarcus Ware at #2. Look at his stats last year: 71 tackles, 11.5 sacks, 2 tds, 1 int, 5 forced fumbles, etc. The guy is a game changer and commands double teams. IMO this guy will ALWAYS be compared to Shawne Merriman throughout his career, and that ain't bad at all. He has freakish ability. Look for his numbers to increase under Phillip's 3-4.

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Hahahahahaha.....Pause.....Hahahahahahahahahah. Seattle, Chicago, and Green Bay (off the top of my head) > Carolina.

Dan Morgan can't stay healthy, Jon Beason is an unproven rookie, and Thomas Davis while a good young player doesn't make up the difference.

Edit: Oh and Briggs is not on par with Urlacher in terms of ability. Brian is more athletic, he's faster, he's much better in coverage, and he has much more pursuit ability.
Yeah but when healthy Dan Morgan is one of the best linebackers in the league and easily better than Barnett and Tatupu, Davis is better than Hawk as well.
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about a .003% chance of him ever being that so why say it.

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But Dan's never healthy, that's the thing. And Davis is not better than Hawk, sorry. Not at least in my opinion.

You've got an injury prone LB, a rookie LB, and an inexperienced LB who while talented still needs to learn the game. That does not qualify them being the best LB core in the NFC, and I'd still take GB's over yours.
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Beason=Unproven
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Unless you are a blind homer I don't see how that equates to being a top tier LB core in the NFC.
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yeah he gets some repdizzle for that
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Beason=Unproven
okay so why are Vikings so high? They add in Greenway..unproven. Leber is not very good..Henderson is good though.

Willis is unproven so why are 49ers so high?

Derek Smith blows..i've seen him a few times and the 49er fans have bashed him. Moore i dont know much about..Lawson will be a good player but how much has he proven?

thats why i brought Beason up..the site put in Willis and Greenway .
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